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Discussion in 'Falls Creek' started by currawong, Dec 9, 2014.

  1. Noah

    Noah Hard Yards

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    I like what people on here say about falls so I was curious about it. I was deciding between a perisher pass and a Thredbo pass, and the bonus of having access to falls creek and hotham is what made me choose the epic pass. So I'd say I got sucked into the Epic by Victoria.

    And really looking forward to the trip, we've now been to Selwyn, thredbo and perisher so pleased to continue our tour of the Australian slopes.
     
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  2. Chaeron

    Chaeron One of Us Ski Pass: Gold

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    Likewise I ended up skiing Perisher (and Kosci) for the first time this year due to the Epic Pass, and access to Perisher was a definite factor....
     
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    emkae One of Us Ski Pass: Gold

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    Email from FCRM:

    Dear Falls Creek,

    The CFA Tallangatta Incident Control Centre will be hosting a community meeting to provide an update on the regional fires.

    When: Monday 2 Dec 2019

    Time: 3.00pm

    Location: QT Board Room

    To attend, please confirm by replying to this email here.

    Kind Regards

    Falls Creek Resort Management

    ...will people need to fit chains to get up the road??? ;)
     
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    Xplora One of Us Ski Pass: Silver

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    BHP road is closed between Trapyard Gap and the dam with a foot of snow so I would not be able to get there. Is there really any point having a meeting anyway?
     
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    Slalom A Local Ski Pass: Gold

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  6. Mister Tee on XC Skis

    Mister Tee on XC Skis A Local Ski Pass: Silver

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    That looks skiable !!!
     
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    Xplora One of Us Ski Pass: Silver

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    You may find it difficult with your level of ability to ski over a car.
     
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  8. skiflat

    skiflat Old n' Crusty

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    So we are locked in again for next year. 6 nights early September

    Now, just need to sneak the almost 3 year old into ski lessons ;)
     
  9. snowgum

    snowgum One of Us Ski Pass: Gold

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    Good luck with that!
    Esp if a boy. Boyz dont listen.

    4 maybe, a tad more skiing is possible at 5-6 (being at schl)
     
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    emkae One of Us Ski Pass: Gold

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    Email from FC

    Dear Falls Creek,

    Falls Creek Resort Management (FCRM) wish to advise all stakeholders and residents that Falls Creek is currently under a WATCH & ACT notice from Vic Emergency due to fire activity in the region. Detail related to this Watch & Act can be found here: https://www.emergency.vic.gov.au/.

    Please note the following key information in accordance with Falls Creek Emergency Management Plan:
    - All guests are advised to leave Falls Creek by the end of today or early tomorrow morning at latest.
    - Stakeholders and residents are advised to activate your fire plans and leave early if possible.
    - MTB shuttle operations will cease at 4pm today and will not be operating tomorrow Friday 3rd January or Saturday 4th Januaryat this stage. Re-start of this program will occur once conditions are appropriate.
    - Bogong High Plains Rd to Shannonvale/Omeo will be closed to through traffic from2pm today - please factor this into your preparations and advice to guests.
    - Pretty Valley Rd and Road 24 will also be closed to public access from 5pm today.
    - There will be a Community Info session held at St Falls West Boardroom at 10am Friday 3rd January. This will focus on stakeholder and resident requirements as guests should have already left resort by this time.

    FCRM will provide further updates as information becomes available.

    It is very important you are using the Vic Emergency app on your phones with Falls Creek as your watch zone so you can stay up to date with all information as soon as it is issued. Additionally listening to ABC Local radio is also advised.

    Kind Regards

    Falls Creek Resort Management
     
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  11. Scott No Mates Ver 1.1

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    Looks like the last person to leave Falls Creek has turned off the lights.

     
  12. Chaeron

    Chaeron One of Us Ski Pass: Gold

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    Evidently Vail has turned off the cams at all their resorts....
     
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  13. snowgum

    snowgum One of Us Ski Pass: Gold

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    And just when really needs - to keep an eye on Things?
     
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    snowgum One of Us Ski Pass: Gold

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    Sorry terrible English, not intended.

    Amazing what all the fairies & staff are doing!
     
  15. snowgum

    snowgum One of Us Ski Pass: Gold

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    Er Firies not fairies!!! Possibly assisted by fairies & other magical creatures though to save the kingdom!

    (God either I'm too tired to type or spellchecker is not helping?)
     
  16. cold wombat

    cold wombat Twitter Contributer Social Media Mod Ski Pass: Gold

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    Sniffing too much smoke?
     
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  17. skiflat

    skiflat Old n' Crusty

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    Yes they have and its beyond disgusting
     
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  18. currawong

    currawong Old but not so Crusty Ski Pass: Gold

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    Why?
    It would be interesting to see but we don't have any right to.
    There is every chance that it's just the public feed that is blocked and information from images is avail to those protecting falls creek.
     
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    I can understand the closing off of certain parts of Victoria esp as you dont need tourists venturing into trouble and clogging up places with only one or two roads.
    We were headed to Falls [ love Falls mtbiking] w Darwin friends but too dangerous + smokey.
    Its bad enough in our town , poor visibilty and all the baby boomers with their caravan Mc mansions .
    The local petrol station was doing a roaring trade on Friday with panic buying but 4WD + caravans were blocking the bowsers.
     
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  20. Sadie

    Sadie Chk Chk Boom Moderator Ski Pass: Gold

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    Yep, tourists shit me sometimes.

    Tourists were requested to leave Bright on Thursday, with residents advised to leave by Friday.

    I was speaking to a tourist on Thursday and asked if they’d left yet. Her reply was “No, we went to the local meeting and they said that we should all be fine.” Um, they meant “we” as in the locals. They don’t need extra pressure of looking after people that don’t reside there and have homes to go to.
     
  21. Hully

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    My understanding is that Vail Resorts has gone above and beyond supporting their people and the resort through this fire situation. Not sure what people in remote locations urgently need vision for beyond interest only.....
    Disclaimer: I have no connection or affiliation with VR or FCRMB.
     
  22. art

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    not directly related but for example i spent yesterday in canberra monitoring rfs radio, lightning trackers, wind obs etc and distilling that info down into useful relevant text messages for family near a fire. kept them informed while they focused on their immediate area.

    Point being useful data points are useful even people remote from the scene might have a use for them
     
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  23. luvthabumps

    luvthabumps A Local Ski Pass: Gold

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    I'm sure if the CFA felt the data was useful and requested the vision it would be made available.

    I find it fascinating that people feel they have a right to this vision (not directed at anyone in particular) I dont have the ability to remotely disconnect the VS cam at Buller and so it will remain on but I'd find it pretty distressing to watch the Mt Buller Village burning through vision provided by me (probably lose power well before it got to that anyway)
     
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  24. currawong

    currawong Old but not so Crusty Ski Pass: Gold

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    surely if tourists are leaving, with caravans or otherwise, it's reasonable to buy fuel as they go.
    And not necessarily just tourists. We (residents) took our campervan with us when we left. That way we can be more comfortable and independent, especially if we decide to stay clear for a while.
     
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  25. teckel

    teckel Pool Room Ski Pass: Gold

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    Yup. Tourists should be told to just f*** off. They have no right to squander what little resources the locals have. They sit there in evacuation centres eating the food and drinking the water intended for locals. And relying on vounteer firefighters to protect them. If they're just sitting there because they can, they should be compulsorily relocated if they can't provide useful service to the locals. ( I did hear of a registered nurse who was volunteering at a medical centre in a seaside resort. If they can do that, they're welcome. Otherwise f*** off.)
     
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  26. skiflat

    skiflat Old n' Crusty

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    Good to hear and yes interest only. :)
     
  27. snowgum

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    Could they be scared to drive out? Cutting some slack here.

    Roads Cooma to Canberra were atrocious on Thursday as we ‘fled’ Thredbo. Not ideal for fleeing.

    I agree dont need rubberneckers but reasons could be more nuanced. Aside from ‘beds already paid for’?
     
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    teckel Pool Room Ski Pass: Gold

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    Most places, they're getting a CFA & police escort out of there.
    Look at Mallacoota then. 2000 tourists still there. All who wanted to evacuate on the ships were. Why didn't the other 2000 get out? It wouldn't be scary on a ship - surely.
    Scared? Grow a pair. Or, put on your big girls blouse.
    Nah. They don't want to go. Check this article:
    https://www.theaustralian.com.au/na...t/news-story/1bce9e622d443d9e2badc47bd2c6e16a
    I don't want to hijack this thread, as it is about Falls Creek & area, but it's the same problem right through eastern Vic.
     
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  29. Ubiquitous Steve

    Ubiquitous Steve A Local Ski Pass: Gold

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    They need that road from Genoa opened back up....if conditions are permitting they need earth movers along there pushing crap off the roadway .Marking all standing trees that need extraction .Army Dudes quite capable of performing this with CFA suoervision ...hooefully no powerlines are over that road.
     
  30. Fozzie Bear

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    Or they may have children under 5 yo or be old and infirm, were not taken out by boat and were supposed to be evacuated by air instead. Air evacuation didn't occur due to poor visibility at airfield.

    And article paywalled.
     
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    teckel Pool Room Ski Pass: Gold

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    I got around that paywall.
    I think that kids under 5 etc only applied to the smaller ship. The bigger one had landing craft that went right into the ship.
     
  32. Bogong

    Bogong Part of the Furniture Ski Pass: Gold

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    To be fair, the army has no regular units stationed in Victoria except for a tiny token force near Seymour, a sort of joint services language school at Laverton and a spook intelligence signals outfit that was at Watsonia last time I heard of it. At any rate there are almost no infantry or engineer sort of outfits in Victoria except for reserve units, aka 'weekend warriors' and I wouldn't trust many of them with a chainsaw or a bulldozer. So all the army can really provide in Victoria is part time reservists without any useful skills, but who could be utilised as truck drivers and unskilled labour under the close supervision of people from the CFA and SES who have expertise in this sort of thing.

    Of course the armed forces have also bought in helis from Qld and the naval training ship Sycamore, the landing ship HMAS Choules and the HMAS Adelaide (which we are not allowed to call an aircraft carrier for fear of provoking a certain large country in north east Asia) to assist in coastal places like Malacoota.

    But really, there is not a lot the armed forces or any other federal government agency can usefully do in the short term The staff and expertise to fight the fires all come under the state government. However once the fires are extinguished, the federal government can hopefully be useful in assisting with the recovery.
     
  33. snowgum

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    Btw: talking comms?

    Theres a ‘good’ article in The Guardian, describing ABC’s coverage of fires & NewsCorps criticism of former.

    Make up your own mind - but I know who I’d rather trust with my life!
     
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    That didn’t apply to the tourist that I spoke to. They were on their holiday. Told me how they were the last ones in their accomodation.

    +1 was on his way to the Gippsland area as part of a CFA strike team just after Christmas. He could not believe how many people were still adamant on going on their holiday, despite the warnings.
     
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  37. snowgum

    snowgum One of Us Ski Pass: Gold

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    Makes one wonder about the wisdom of cutting ABC budgets?

    I dont see NewsCorp supplying vital fire information in real time.
     
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    Channel Nine has done a really excellent job reporting on the fires in Victoria. They've had reporters at every evacuation point like Tallangatta, Bairnsdale, etc., as well as getting helis into places that no other network has spent much time at like Malacoota and sending out daily reports from those cut off places. And they've used their top line reporters, not just amateur local stringers or the junior reporters they use when no experienced reporter is available. It must have cost them an absolute fortune. By contrast, Channel Two has had a relatively modest coverage of Victorian fires, padded out with what seems to be more coverage of NSW than of Victoria.
     
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    snowgum One of Us Ski Pass: Gold

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    Hi Bogong, I note your info - when not touring Canberra, Thredbo or driving during our latest trip, we’ve been on ABC so can’t compare with Channel 9.

    In general, They all get very NSW-focused IMO - I guess that’s HQ influence?

    Fwiw: NSW people seem to think this event is unprecedented. Its not really correct, given 03/04 - 09, 06/07 & even Ash Wednesday, 39’ if you’re old enough?

    But! Now the fires are near Sydney this is ‘real’ and worthy of attention by Sydney media & Fed Gov.

    There! Needed saying! Vic southern attitude!!
     
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    I think there may have also been fewer accessable towns in vic that are close to fires. for a while it was probably only Bairnsdale and Tallangatta.
     
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    You are from Melbourne and are now travelling around in the NSW and ACT so your media will be more focused on NSW. I came from Sydney and the Blue Mtns. I worked in the mountains and the Hawkesbury. Fires are a thing every year there but maybe you just do not remember as much because you live in Melbourne. How people relate to fires can be very geographical and based on media content. Most people near us have only had one experience with a big fire until now and I kind of get sick of hearing 'back in 2003'. They have trouble understanding that we have come from an area where bushfires are more common. Sydney is actually surrounded by National park which very close to housing. Lane Cove, Kurringai, Royal and the Blue Mtns and fires are regular in all of them. From my perspective, I would say the current fires in NSW are unprecedented in that there are so many burning at the one time over such a large area and for such a long time. They are also starting much earlier.

    Fire season for our area (which includes Falls Creek) normally starts in January and often toward the end of January. Conditions in 2003 and this season were ripe for an early start but still, a month ago we still had plenty of green grass with mild temperatures and then things changed. East Gippsland has, in general, had low rainfall for the last couple of years. We had a good spring but the rain shadow to the east has caused the bush to be tinder dry for most of EG. Same same for Sydney, Blue Mtns and most of NSW. This has been building for a number of years and even areas which have had fuel reduction burns in the last 5 years are burning hard.

    The Royal Commission into bushfires in Vic recommended increased fuel reduction burning around assets and communities. DELWP cannot achieve anywhere near what has been recommended because there are insufficient days suitable to burn now and not enough resources to manage the burns. A ridge to the north of us has been on the list to burn for a couple of years and it 'may' happen next Autumn. Now the Federal government is saying the same thing, more controlled burns. Perhaps some Federal help will come from this but if you need to burn every couple of years to protect communities then I see it an impossible task. We are all going to count the cost of this fire season, whether affected directly or not. There will be more unprecedented things to come. Like a rise in insurance premiums.
     
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    If you ever have an extra morning/afternoon on the way to or from Falls Creek and you’re coming from the Albury/ Wangaratta side, consider taking a side trip up past Eldorado to the Woolshed Falls in the Mt Pilot National Park. Mt Pilot is like a mini Mt Buffalo - lots of lovely granite boulders and outcrops.
     
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  43. Sadie

    Sadie Chk Chk Boom Moderator Ski Pass: Gold

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    Don't forget to pay for your car pass this week.
     
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    Got the early Bird - Fully paid up - nice to have it done. Bought a NSW National Parks Annual Pass too in September- sucked in by the Hero Pass - :p. But I’m currently not planning on going the All Vic resorts pass - even though I’m planning about 10 days at Hotham...
     
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    been extended to 12 Feb - given the fires. good move
     
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    Chaeron One of Us Ski Pass: Gold

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    Their email explaining the move was well-expressed - avoiding PR spin
     
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    Good decision by FCRM
     
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    Funny you say that - my partner received the email today and we both laughed at the PR spin. We have never bought a seasons pass, and the last time we went to Falls was 3 seasons ago. She bought the resort entry online, and three years later we get an email about not sending us marketing emails about early bird season passes closing.
    ROFL.
    (I checked this forum to see what others thought, because Falls is close to my heart, I did 5 seasons as a towie, I'm a back country tourer these days, but the Epic pass has me thinking downhill again maybe)
     
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    Point taken - it was soft marketing, and they’re positioning themselves for their decision to be perceived positively, but it wasn’t ugly hard sell, or disrespectful.

    It’s awesome to have the season pass as a tourer... and Epic IS good value....go on!
     
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    FC Resort entry sale open till 12/02 at discounted price of $375. Over 65’s $325. Price freeze on Early Bird Sale price.
     
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