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Discussion in 'Falls Creek' started by currawong, Dec 9, 2014.
...Geez bro - ma spulling woz bead az! (Above)!
No idea what thread it was in but
Hero pass will on sale til Oct 8th reading the posters here it seems
I guess early sale closing is what 'limited availability' means (post #226).
Am I correct in thinking that deposits used to be due in December?
Other examples of reduced value higher cost:
Daily entry for one person in their vehicle was half price. No longer available.
Telemark lessons are now classed as private and cost a bomb.
Half day lift tickets used to be worth it for those on a budget; now the price difference is laughable.
Last season we didn't have these lift closures/restrictions.
hero pass deposits usually due in early Oct. i think one of the resorts (perisher?) had a limited number of passes one year and they kept publishing a chairlift graph showing them getting closer to the limit. in merlin's case i think it's just bs to get people to act now rather than put it off and maybe forget or decide not to
resort entry season pass has been dec for a few years.
early closure of monkey bar has happened before IIRC. pity, because it is such a great beginner run and should be there for september beginners if there is snow. specially sill now that eagle can get them there so easily
hero pass is so much cheaper than the old season pass that most falls addicts are probably still ahead. not so great if you don't have a hero pass.
with parking getting so scarce on weekends, I don't think discounts for 1 in a car are likely to return. maybe mid-week in off-peak but i still doubt it.
They missed out on 3 hero passes in our crew for 2018 - decided we wouldn't be down long enough to extract value out of our passes this year. Still considering 2019 at this stage but the extra $$ are a hit.
Anyone up at Falls able to adjust the Ruined Castle Pano-cam ?
Looks like it has slipped down a bit and we now get 180 degrees of snow and 180 degrees of sky
That's a new release piece of steeper terrain, only accessible by crossing the FC Glacier.
with the hero pass. if you put a deposit of $99 and then decide later that you no longer want a season pass will they still slug you $799? or would you only lose the $99?
you are accepting liability to pay the full amount. They will take it out of you card next year.
If you take out the insurance and you have medical documentation then you can get a refund on the deposit and not pay the balance. I've heard of people negotiating a credit for the next year for non-medical reasons. Change of mind may not cut it.
If your card expires then I suppose they can't take it - but might effect your chances of buying one in future, and maybe your credit rating
FCRM have just announced a new resort entry deal, starting tomorrow
Pay $375 now and get resort entry for the rest of spring plus 2019.
The normal early bird deal for 2019 will also be $375 ($99 deposit, rest later) but won't start till 8 Oct.
And again they aren't saying what the saving amounts to for 2019?
it's possible that they don't have formal gov approval for the full price yet so can't say. IIRC that was an issue one year
Hotham has this:
2019 SUPER SEASON PASS
With another record-breaking year of snowfalls, it’s time to lock in your 2019 escape. For the first time, Mt Hotham Resort Management Board is offering a Super Resort Entry Season Pass valid for the 2019 snow season. The price remains the same as 2018 prices, $465* for the season with only a $49 deposit required this year
It’s gone up $75?
I seem to have lost where you print off your hero pass vouchers for the free lift ticket. Does anyone know where it is?
I couldn't find it when I tried this year
I found it about two weeks ago but now I think it has gone. How do I redeem the pass then? Strange
They've been printing them off at the ticket window at Hotham.
My records show that last year I paid $95 + $231 = $326. So $49 increase.
I thought it was $300. I knew it had gone up though.
What are my chances of parking at windy corner overnight stay if I arrive around 10.3pm tonight?
Lower Windy Corner there might be a couple of spots - if you get lucky.
Upper Windy Corner is supposed to be day parking only, and when they need to clear snow it’s an issue if people are parked up there - even that’s not an issue a.t.m.
Still, it’s a risk leaving a car there overnight as resort management may disapprove...
And tomorrow will be the last day for Lakeside Poma.
Enjoy 'the product' from FCRM.
Wow. That should be running til end of school hols.....
Monkey Bar has been out this week though the poles were left up. Maybe they'll run it this weekend.
With both of those gone it becomes irritating time-wasting zig zagging along the ridge to another run.
Another over-promise under-deliver on free spring skiing on next year's pass.
A pain in the rear to be honest
I think it’s pretty crap that Lakeside is closing today. Still plenty of snow around.
Tomorrow is the last day for it btw.
Oops. In any case, it’s still crap. I feel for those that bought the spring pass. Inter was riding fine too today.
Been snowing heavily on and off since about 2.15pm.
Light dry fluffy flakes as I look out the window now.
Tomorrow going to be a cracker
Hope it keeps up.
What you don't want off-piste is frozen tracks barely filled up.
Had an awesome morning’s skiing -on the groomers for a change - Father Fosters, Racecourse & Corkscrew particularly enjoyable. When it turned somewhat softer and we had the wet spell I bailed though.
Time we got you on some tele gear
It’s either some tele gear or XC skating skis... might put some tele bindings on my one set of Annums - a good idea!
Are you up tomorrow?
Hook up for some turns if you like.
Unfortunately back in the big smoke... another time definitely- up next weekend.
Ah, I head off Saturday
Yep 9am til 12 daily til season end
Never should have closed in the first place
Bouquet to FCRM for reconsidering.
Not an FCRMB decision....FCSL are the gatekeepers of all things lifts.
So what would make the lift company, who have a rep for not giving a shit, change its mind?
Social media backlash.....
It’s difficult to schmooze season pass holders in an attempt to get prepaid sales and simultaneously piss them off by closing their favourite lifts.
Well, either the decision was a mistake that they corrected or it was an attempt to gauge reaction from the start.
Either way the resort brand takes a hit.
More of getting less for your money and in some cases while paying more.
A bit like 15% increase in early bird Resort Entry.....FCRMB taking an operational hit financially from summer activities so clawing back the result by gouging winter visitors.
Compare to Hero Pass....0% increase!
It seems like a lot of $$ is spent to attract summer visitation however they're self-sufficient, not spending a cent in local shops or on-mountain accommodation. It's a bit hard on businesses to plan for an influx of non-spenders.
I have to disagree. I've visited Falls a fair bit in summer and have taken well over 100 people on hiking tours based there. Based on my observations, people DO want to spend money there in summer, BUT the place probably needs to have a basic level of amenity. By that I mean a modest choice of places to eat out, a couple of things for people to do in their down time and hopefully a shop that is open. Now for the trips I've run, places like Thredbo and Halls Gap (Grampians) pass that test with flying colours, while Hotham is so hopeless that I've run every trip in that area based at Dinner Plain, which is further from most of the walks, but doesn't have an air of desolation with tumbleweeds rolling down the streets in summer.
Now Falls has the potential to be nearly as popular as Thredbo in summer. In addition to hiking and sight seeing, it is the best location for altitude training in Australia, but it will only grow to be popular in summer if there is a decent promotional effort and only if there a few restaurants, cafes plus a shop are open. Now to achieve that takes money up front, with only small returns on that investment for many years, which is the sort of thing people like Scott are unhappy with. But it could grow into a fairly busy place is summer. The alternative is to not bother and permanently write Falls off as a place that will never be more than a four months per year town.
@Bogong - I visit FC in the green season as well. This year was the most active that I saw it - probably counted over 100 cars, horse floats, campers etc but all over the back of the mountain, well away from the village. I'd love to see more places open for a bite etc - Be Foods has been our go to for the last few summer/autumnal trips with few other options available.
What I am alluding to is that mountain bikes are day-trippers, 3 Peaks is an over-night (maybe 2/3 max). Hikers, on the other hand are after a bed for the night but most places shy away from one night stays as they're too costly to provide both in lodge rooms and apartments (ie for minimal profit) but that's shortsighted I know - there's all of the add-ons like food which make the bottom line much fatter.
I agree, Falls has a lot going for it over the warmer months - the lake, walks/hiking, cycling, serenity etc. It needs a good high altitude training facility - Windy Corner has been mentioned previously as it has some flat ground but being 'community land' it presents a whole lot of challenges to provide a facility without locking up public land and access to the public land.
Mountain biking is certainly on the increase but yes among the day-tripping adrenaline seekers.
For those doing multi-day walks Mt Beauty is a better start/end point with its supermarket, food, motels & caravan parks, servos and hardwares, and it's only 30km down the road.
As for developing the Nordic bowl as a training facility, it's within the resort lease area but the resort has to get the funds from elsewhere. Though the resort is an unincorporated area stakeholders have had some success in getting treated as if it was a shire so as to apply for government recreation funds. Otherwise it's private funding and so private interests will rule.