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@currawong that was what I figured. We are staying with family at Bonegilla (the time v cost benefit is hard to beat.... )will do two or three days this week with first day tomorrow so plan A was Voldemort's for kids and +1 for downhill (pick up this arvo)
And get chains and tele skis from Rocky Valley on way. (Booking ahead) We are shouting SIL a lesson tomorrow as well
I don't know why people just don't buy chains. If you're keeping the same car for a number of years then it makes financial sense. $150 and time and effort saved hiring them every visit. Last forever. Can sell them if you change cars
 

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Yea I have a set but haven"t got around to selling and buying new size. May still buy outright as i expect next car will be more of the same.
 
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scroll down to see the cafe
Thanks Curra, I went old school and gave them a ring. I can confirm that YMCA are still running both the XC ski hire and school (and my fave instructor is still there) and doing the Cafe. Happy days :)
 

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Any news on the Pomas? When lakeside might be repaired and if inter is snow related or mechanical?
Actually Lakeside isn't a Poma or Leitner-Poma product. It was made by GMM or Gimar Montaz Mautino, a French company that still exists, although they have confined themselves to Europe in recent decades. I just hope they used Poma compatible parts or we may be in for a long wait before it is operational and my visit to Falls in a few weeks won't be authentic without riding at least one cornered poma-lift.
 

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Oh my dog ! What happened to this guy ?? o_O

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Thanks Curra, I went old school and gave them a ring. I can confirm that YMCA are still running both the XC ski hire and school (and my fave instructor is still there) and doing the Cafe. Happy days :)
Windy corner cafe is open everyday if they can contrary to some advice on some websites. Was open today when I wasn't expecting it
 
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Beautiful sunny day all day until late clouds and a small chilly breeze made the many stops on Scott and ruined chairs that occurred late afternoon a little unpleasant.

Snow was icier than yesterday, large tricky ice patches were eventually barriered down the bottom of Scott.

Did runs in the morning down the groomed fields of ruined castle. Went faster than I ever have on skis and, while I couldn't resist going fast, I certainly gained an appreciation of why skiing is dangerous. Also very fun.

We hung around that area all day, in and around trees, occasionally sliding and bumping our way through patches of ice. Liked particularly south side and big dipper, or whatever they're called at ruined castle.

Snow never really softened and became very firm late afternoon. Still quite busy on the green runs and up at cloud 9, was hoping for smaller crowds to be able to do tree runs around towers.

Word from a liftie was that international is closed because of terrain. So would need another snow event. Lakeside is close to opening apparently. He said it won't open today but maybe tomorrow or the day after. That's vague enough that it won't happen but would be great if true. He said the swinging incident caused significant damage and he was surprised it was fixed so quickly. So that sounded like he knew a bit about how it was going.

My youngest daughter has gotten her love of skiing back, after finding it a bit of a struggle over the last year, so I've really enjoyed our trip.

Windy cafe open today, btw.

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We were down the other end finding our ski legs on laps of Drivers and Towers. I might be able to encourage my two to head over to Scott's on Wednesday. Mind you I am on more rustic gear than I have been and need to hasten slowly. Kids are sufficiently exhausted so job done.
 

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It was quite icy today, agreed. Started on Towers, the queue was busy so we had lunch and went over to Ruined in the afternoon. South Face was mostly hardpack and by 3pm the surfaces were freezing up and the cloud was building and our legs were starting to feel weary so we called it a day after a pleasant ski outing. Ms Goski in the foreground on what was our last run has the "hurry up I'm getting cold waiting for you expression" which I have learned to take notice of.
 

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On lifts, it will be great if Lakeside is running again so soon.
However over at Ruined, successive lifties are still running the lift too fast, hence the frequent stops that lose more time than is gained. The last couple of rides my lower legs got whacked hard. There was no lift line by then so why crank it up to what I think is an unsafe speed?
There has been no interest from the lifties in discussing the lift speed. At the top, there were two falls I saw ahead of my chair arriving due to skiers being hit by the lift when they were descending the off ramp.
So take care on that lift.
At Towers the lift queue was a bit chaotic and bunched up. Stops were happening at the loading end. Off-loading was fine. The crowd were chill.

Back up tomorrow. The snow forecast has weakened for Tuesday and Wednesday, boo. We will continue to work on getting more comfortable on hardpack, with a grin.

PS the helpful staff at Alpine Pepper Cafe hung onto our venerable battered big thermos for 10 days. We only realised it was missing when we got back to the caravan yesterday and it wasn't there. We got it back today Their coffee is good.
 

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On lifts, it will be great if Lakeside is running again so soon.
However over at Ruined, successive lifties are still running the lift too fast, hence the frequent stops that lose more time than is gained. The last couple of rides my lower legs got whacked hard. There was no lift line by then so why crank it up to what I think is an unsafe speed?
There has been no interest from the lifties in discussing the lift speed. At the top, there were two falls I saw ahead of my chair arriving due to skiers being hit by the lift when they were descending the off ramp.
So take care on that lift.
At Towers the lift queue was a bit chaotic and bunched up. Stops were happening at the loading end. Off-loading was fine. The crowd were chill.

Back up tomorrow. The snow forecast has weakened for Tuesday and Wednesday, boo. We will continue to work on getting more comfortable on hardpack, with a grin.

PS the helpful staff at Alpine Pepper Cafe hung onto our venerable battered big thermos for 10 days. We only realised it was missing when we got back to the caravan yesterday and it wasn't there. We got it back today Their coffee is good.

That's funny on the lifts, I'm constantly hoping lifts speed up, and I went back to ruined from Scott for a bit more speed. I also got hit in the back of the leg a couple of times, but I blamed myself for not spiritually connecting with the lifts enough. I think those lifts should run fast as they're blue/black run area. Obviously that view doesn't consider the reality of the many newbie enthusiasts having a go for the first time, and it was stop start in the late afternoon, but I appreciated the extra speed of ruined irrespective of that.

On lifts, eagle chair must be the best in the country: comfortable, speedy, go slow entry and exit. You'd almost do the village run just to hop on it again.
 

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That's funny on the lifts, I'm constantly hoping lifts speed up, and I went back to ruined from Scott for a bit more speed. I also got hit in the back of the leg a couple of times, but I blamed myself for not spiritually connecting with the lifts enough. I think those lifts should run fast as they're blue/black run area. Obviously that view doesn't consider the reality of the many newbie enthusiasts having a go for the first time, and it was stop start in the late afternoon, but I appreciated the extra speed of ruined irrespective of that.

On lifts, eagle chair must be the best in the country: comfortable, speedy, go slow entry and exit. You'd almost do the village run just to hop on it again.
Eagle chair is lovely, just the way a lift should be.

Running the Scott's and RC lifts fast is counter-productive. One stop negates any time gain, two stops puts the run in the red. RC lift particularly is set so low that the hard contact is just above the boot spoiler. You can avoid that with precise timing on your sit down but lots of people don't achieve that zen task. Calf pinching is another delight that can be experienced if you sit a bit too early.

Glad I don't have young children to escort on the lifts anymore. Next to me were a mother and 4? Year old at Scott's and the kid's bottom was hanging off the lift when we had loaded. It was running fast. The lifty was very slow to assist. I had reached over the Mum and grabbed the kids jacket to keep her from falling off entirely and yelled to the liftie to stop the lift. Prior to that the liftie had said "You right?" to which the Mum said"No, help!". It was scary for the child.

Nonetheless, today will be a good day!
 

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Eagle chair is lovely, just the way a lift should be.
Eagle is the fastest ski lift in Australia and also one of the most reliable. It operates at 5.1 metres a second, while the best other detachable chairlifts can manage is around 4.8 m/s.

That's evidence that Merlin Entertainments had no idea of the way the Australian ski industry worked, or more precisely they did not understand that the local Doppelmayr rep believed his company should have a monopoly in this country. So Merlin looked around and bought a top end Leitner-Poma detachable chairlift rather than the usual Dopp product that every other ski resort in Australia has bought in recent years. Leitner-Poma was keen to make a good impression in Australia and I have heard that they took special care that the components delivered were the very best.
 

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Eagle chair is lovely, just the way a lift should be.

Running the Scott's and RC lifts fast is counter-productive. One stop negates any time gain, two stops puts the run in the red. RC lift particularly is set so low that the hard contact is just above the boot spoiler. You can avoid that with precise timing on your sit down but lots of people don't achieve that zen task. Calf pinching is another delight that can be experienced if you sit a bit too early.

Glad I don't have young children to escort on the lifts anymore. Next to me were a mother and 4? Year old at Scott's and the kid's bottom was hanging off the lift when we had loaded. It was running fast. The lifty was very slow to assist. I had reached over the Mum and grabbed the kids jacket to keep her from falling off entirely and yelled to the liftie to stop the lift. Prior to that the liftie had said "You right?" to which the Mum said"No, help!". It was scary for the child.

Nonetheless, today will be a good day!
I always put a hand behind me to push the chair back a little - then sit down. Otherwise shuffle forward a little a let the other people get hit in the legs. A bit of a problem when they realise what you are doing and everyone shuffles forward.
 
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Giving my older 75mm a run today. Snowing gently, good skiing!

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That's not a gag on Ms Goski. Just looks like one.

Had to switch back to NTN after enjoying the narrower World Piste skis. Halfway down the last third of Towers I suddenly was on one ski. After a gentle falling so I looked up the slope and saw the bit of binding with the brake in the snow. Looking down the slope my free ski passed neatly between two boarders and stopped after the orange netting. The release plate and the riser plate of the 7TM have both snapped off near the release mechanism.
It was conveniently at lunch time so I got lifts back to Falls Central and a pleasant village shuttle bus ride back to Windy Corner with the young lady driver, Bonney. A bonny lass. Fortunately I had NTN gear in the car to switch to.

Afternoon skiing was good too via Towers and Scotts. Almost no breeze, good vis, softening snow.
 

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That's not a gag on Ms Goski. Just looks like one.

Had to switch back to NTN after enjoying the narrower World Piste skis. Halfway down the last third of Towers I suddenly was on one ski. After a gentle falling so I looked up the slope and saw the bit of binding with the brake in the snow. Looking down the slope my free ski passed neatly between two boarders and stopped after the orange netting. The release plate and the riser plate of the 7TM have both snapped off near the release mechanism.
It was conveniently at lunch time so I got lifts back to Falls Central and a pleasant village shuttle bus ride back to Windy Corner with the young lady driver, Bonney. A bonny lass. Fortunately I had NTN gear in the car to switch to.

Afternoon skiing was good too via Towers and Scotts. Almost no breeze, good vis, softening snow.
I have yet to break any form of tele binding other than cracking the heel pieces on my Telebulldogs numerous times. I think its a design flaw which makes an awesome step in/out tele binding into a PITA. Other bigger, more aggressive skiers than me though regularly report gear failures so welcome to the hard core club LOL
 
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I have yet to break any form of tele binding other than cracking the heel pieces on my Telebulldogs numerous times. I think its a design flaw which makes an awesome step in/out tele binding into a PITA. Other bigger, more aggressive skiers than me though regularly report gear failures so welcome to the hard core club LOL
I broke a Voile release plate at Perisher a long time ago. That earned me a fun snowmobile ride back to base where I had a spare in the car. I've ripped out a Riva II binding twice in The Bluff in Vic using Excursions - too much pull-up for that little binding and I didn't learn the lesson! Two long skis back with tape and straps holding boot onto ski.

Hopefully no more breakages skiing tomorrow, including my body parts.

Good vibe at Falls again today. People seemed happy and relaxed.
 

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The queue did improve, a patroller came and did some queue management. We then went over and skied Ruined Castle. Now we're back at Gully carpark for lunch before the drive down.
Work commitments in Melbourne tomorrow. . Today was the best day's skiing for me this season.

Next two days at Falls will be very good too.
Enjoy!!
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I think I should be posting this in a 'rage' thread. But every day I look at this cam it is the same. That is the lower part of a ski run (albeit a slow area). It is NOT a place for standing and hanging out or for dumping your equipment.
:mad::mad:
Does FCRC or the lift company reps read this forum?

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It is definitely an obstacle course to run to get on the lift. A "bonus activity". No extra charge.
 

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I suspect they're the same self-absorbed 16-25 age group that stand in doorways having conversations, clutter up busy footpaths, etc.
It's an unfortunate attribute of every generation going through that "almost adult, but not quite" age.

The only thing that stops kids acting like that is that they eventually grow up. It can't be stopped, so we have to live with it and there's no point getting frustrated, because we were probably like that too in the past.
 

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Great day today got the kids to do some survival skiing and traversing out of trouble amongst a big day. The sunny aspects went to slush around lunch and caused carnage with the inexperienced was real thread the needle stuff in places on the village trail . Have a solo day tomorrow.
 

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I think I should be posting this in a 'rage' thread. But every day I look at this cam it is the same. That is the lower part of a ski run (albeit a slow area). It is NOT a place for standing and hanging out or for dumping your equipment.
:mad::mad:
Does FCRC or the lift company reps read this forum?

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Same thing outside frying pan at lunch time. Almost impossible to get from bottom of skyline to eagle chair
 

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Perhaps a cautionary note for anyone else with old tele bindings....
Here is what happened to my 7TNs, mounted on a riser plate that is screwed into the sturdy factory inserts in the ski.
I'm thinking that:
1) the plastic may have become brittle - the 7TMs been on the ski for 13 years with no other issues
2) that the two insert screws (seen in the left side of the second photo) may have become a bit loose. There is a bit of room between the screw heads and the release plate that covers them.

The binding broke on a regular tele run down Towers, not from a fall. The turns were feeling nice and smooth, then I was suddenly on one ski ⛷️. No damage to me, the liberated ski or to antibody else.

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Perhaps a cautionary note for anyone else with old tele bindings....
Here is what happened to my 7TNs, mounted on a riser plate that is screwed into the sturdy factory inserts in the ski.
I'm thinking that:
1) the plastic may have become brittle - the 7TMs been on the ski for 13 years with no other issues
2) that the two insert screws (seen in the left side of the second photo) may have become a bit loose. There is a bit of room between the screw heads and the release plate that covers them.

The binding broke on a regular tele run down Towers, not from a fall. The turns were feeling nice and smooth, then I was suddenly on one ski ⛷️. No damage to me, the liberated ski or to antibody else.

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Glad you stayed upright! Could have been much worse!
 
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Another lovely day up at Falls, busy but not too busy.

Groomers and improved snowmaking keeping the season viable.

Even 10 years ago 70cm cover would have seen much less of the mountain being skiable.

Crazy what terrain does - Frying Pan at the bottom of Eagles crazily busy.

Ski down the gully and the Pepper cafe is almost deserted…
 

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Another lovely day up at Falls, busy but not too busy.

Groomers and improved snowmaking keeping the season viable.

Even 10 years ago 70cm cover would have seen much less of the mountain being skiable.

Crazy what terrain does - Frying Pan at the bottom of Eagles crazily busy.

Ski down the gully and the Pepper cafe is almost deserted…
Yay for snow-making and grooming skills!

There are comfy couches at Alpine Pepper. The cafe must be needing some more business to stay viable. They have a frequent customer loyalty program that takes a dollar of a large coffee or hot chips. A few more coffees and I'll get one free. Zac is the friendly bearded manager.
 

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Yay for snow-making and grooming skills!

There are comfy couches at Alpine Pepper. The cafe must be needing some more business to stay viable. They have a frequent customer loyalty program that takes a dollar of a large coffee or hot chips. A few more coffees and I'll get one free. Zac is the friendly bearded manager.
local day trippers and some mountain staff/residents use it even if inter is not running. and race club is based in the building. the owners before the short-lived previous owners had it for many years and made it work. They really made a difference by providing decent food at prices that were acceptable. (a few other businesses lifted their game a bit after that)
 

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local day trippers and some mountain staff/residents use it even if inter is not running. and race club is based in the building. the owners before the short-lived previous owners had it for many years and made it work. They really made a difference by providing decent food at prices that were acceptable. (a few other businesses lifted their game a bit after that)
The 4site operations staff are in there a bit on their breaks. I've spoken with Nikko a few times this season, one of the 4site staff. He's another slightly mad man in that he told me also skis on tele gear. He noticed my tele boots and said hi to me in the cafe when I walked in to use the loo at the start of the first day. Tele skiers are inclined to draw together like bits of crud in a car sump.

I find that parking at Gully Carpark and using Gully and Eagle chairs is a quick start to the day. It is also quick to ski down the gully from the Frying Pan Inn for lunch in the comfortable heated public space where the cafe is and for an easy car exit at the end of the day.
 

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The 4site operations staff are in there a bit on their breaks. I've spoken with Nikko a few times this season, one of the 4site staff. He's another slightly mad man in that he told me also skis on tele gear. He noticed my tele boots and said hi to me in the cafe when I walked in to use the loo at the start of the first day. Tele skiers are inclined to draw together like bits of crud in a car sump.

I find that parking at Gully Carpark and using Gully and Eagle chairs is a quick start to the day. It is also quick to ski down the gully from the Frying Pan Inn for lunch in the comfortable heated public space where the cafe is and for an easy car exit at the end of the day.
spoken like a local
 

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the owners before the short-lived previous owners had it for many years and made it work. They really made a difference by providing decent food at prices that were acceptable.
And made the best vanilla slices in the country. I heard a rumour the vanilla slice had made a return to Mountain Pepper.
 
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A job helping with the shuttle and traffic management could be a good income supplement in coming winters when I've given up the day job. How many years/decades does it take to be a local?
some say that you're not a local unless you were born here
some say that you are not a local unless there is a street named after your family
but to be a true local, there must have been a cattleman's hut owned by your family

that said, it's a very welcoming community.
 

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some say that you're not a local unless you were born here
some say that you are not a local unless there is a street named after your family
but to be a true local, there must have been a cattleman's hut owned by your family

that said, it's a very welcoming community.
On the other side of the hill you need all three to be a local. Much tougher crowd. We walked into the local's pub one afternoon when it was busy and noisy using the locals entrance. Everyone stopped talking at the same time and glared at us. Fortunately the barmaid (who was in fact a local on all three counts) knew us, said hello and I greeted her by name. A second later the conversation started like it had never stopped. It reminded me of a cliché western movie.

The number one thing to remember is all the 'locals' are related. Don't talk badly about anyone.
 

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On the other side of the hill you need all three to be a local. Much tougher crowd. We walked into the local's pub one afternoon when it was busy and noisy using the locals entrance. Everyone stopped talking at the same time and glared at us. Fortunately the barmaid (who was in fact a local on all three counts) knew us, said hello and I greeted her by name. A second later the conversation started like it had never stopped. It reminded me of a cliché western movie.

The number one thing to remember is all the 'locals' are related. Don't talk badly about anyone.
and locals on each side of the hill are related
 
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Car park is full apparently. Does that happen much? When I was buying resort entry earlier in the year the receptionist said there's always enough parking. Is it busy up there today?
 
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