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matt, I think no1's replied because that pic you posted just says it all
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*sigh* still 3 whole months till we can even begin to expect ftop to look anything like that...
 
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matt77 said:
so it looks like this topic isn't popular anymore

can i suggest we archive it and whenever someone asks about feathertop we direct them to this topic

matt
I am now actually exercising some self restraint, matt. If I had stopped posting all my images and maps.. this thread most likely would have stopped at Page 2.
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With all due repect VSG, I think the knowledge that I've gained through a lifelong love affair with this mountain (I turned 21 at Federation Hut, dozens of visits since) has contributed a little to this discussion. I was going to call myself "Feathertop", but it sounds too much like a brand of sleeping bag.

Do you think I will have any luck if I apply to reactivate the lease on the site of the Feathertop Bungalow so I can rebuild it and offer dinner, a drink and a bed to weary travellers?

The gob smacking photo's in this thread must make the Tasmanians and N.S.W. people who haven't been there realise that Feathertop really is a true, freestanding, high alpine peak. Along with Bogong, they are unique in Australia.
 

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Bogong, maximum respek, man.

I was basically pointing out that my contrib was perhaps a little over the top. Flooding the thread, I think its called.

Keep giving us the info. Like the train from Harrietville to Hotham underneath the Razorback.

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can we ask parks vic to make a track along the east ridge for the hardcore climbers?

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matt77 said:
can we ask parks vic to make a track along the east ridge for the hardcore climbers?
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I reckon if something's worth doing, do it yourself. :evil: The only thing that really makes the East Ridge almost impossible is the regrowth scrub after the '03 fires and the blackberries at the bottom.

I would suggest tootling up there in May or November, (little snow, no fire danger, few people) and spend a day cutting a path down it with a petrol powered brush cutter. ($150 at Bunnings) Then say on a forum like this that you "found" a path down the East Ridge, word will get around, people will investigate and a real track will form. Then the East Ridge won't be impossible due to scrub and blackberries, it will merely be hard due to being bloody steep
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If this works, we can collaborate on other "lost" routes like Champion Spur, Little Bogong, the list is endless...
 
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Bogong said:

I would suggest tootling up there in May or November, (little snow, no fire danger, few people) and spend a day cutting a path down it with a petrol powered brush cutter. ($150 at Bunnings) Then say on a forum like this that you "found" a path down the East Ridge, word will get around, people will investigate and a real track will form. Then the East Ridge won't be impossible due to scrub and blackberries, it will merely be hard due to being bloody steep
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tell me when you are finished and i'll do it :p
 
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Good. Now that all of you approve of my plan to put an illicit track down the East Ridge, I will need your support to rebuild the Feathertop Bungalow. I suspect we will need to fight to rebuild it.
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There used to be a ski lodge on Feathertop complete with restaurant and public bar. Any suggestions about getting permission to rebuild it on the original site?
 

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Bogong said:

There used to be a ski lodge on Feathertop complete with restaurant and public bar.
was it where federation hut is now standing? how did they get the kegs up and the food? The workers stayed on site?

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Interesting pic of little bogong. its offically called mt little bogong?

whats the attitude on it?

why hasn't parks vic, made a track?

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Nah, downhill a bit from Federation. They built it near the spring. There is a sign showing where it used to stand.

Everything came up from Harrietville by packhorse. Although in the late 1930's a tracked vehicle (a bit like a modern snocat) was used. Guests usually put their luggage and skis on the packhorse train, had a drink at the Harrietville pub and then either walked or rode up Bungalow Spur. Their luggage and skis were waiting next to their bed by the time they arrived.
 

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Bogong said:
Good. Now that all of you approve of my plan to put an illicit track down the East Ridge, I will need your support to rebuild the Feathertop Bungalow. I suspect we will need to fight to rebuild it.

There used to be a ski lodge on Feathertop complete with restaurant and public bar. Any suggestions about getting permission to rebuild it on the original site?
Couldn't we just do it according to your 'East Ridge Protocol': buy some wood and nails from Bunnings ($150), build it one weekend, then just announce on this forum that we've 'found' a lodge and bar on Feathertop and see what happens...

I'm sure the PV people who actually go up Feathertop wouldn't mind. And if it were painted MUMC Hut green then it'd blend right in.

We'd just have to ask any guests riding their horses up Bungalow Spur to pick up the horse poo because if anyone noticed that they might get suspicious...
 
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Hey VSG, I wouldnt dare to presume that my efforts where in any way close to the standard that we have come to expect from you. I was mearly filling the gap for peolpe and waiting in expectaition for the master to post. Now what about Champion spur?
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Oh and by the way for those of you thinking of ascending Little Bog, my advise is not to. Even coming down is hard.
 

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sidetrack said:
Now what about Champion spur?
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To start with, its another route up to Feathertop, hits the Razorback about 2km south of Fed Hut, from the west (Harrietville) side. I have not been up or down it; heard it was very overgrown
 
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Graeme said:
sidetrack said:
Now what about Champion spur?
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To start with, its another route up to Feathertop, hits the Razorback about 2km south of Fed Hut, from the west (Harrietville) side. I have not been up or down it; heard it was very overgrown
From the B in Bon Accord Spur to the last r in Champion Spur, is about 1.0 km.

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Matt the track is there. If you look at the map VSG posted (he did not make it)it also says that Bonacord track runs up Champion spur, not true. Never trust maps completely.
 

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Many years ago, before PV took over management of the area, someone pushed a dozer up Champion Spur from the river to within a couple of km of The Razorback, so there once was a track up most of Champion Spur.

Likewise, for a few years in the late 1960's there was a track connecting MUMC Hut with the North Razorback. The track was built to transport material to build the hut, but little evidence of the track remains today.
 

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sidetrack said:
Matt the track is there. If you look at the map VSG posted (he did not make it)it also says that Bonacord track runs up Champion spur, not true. Never trust maps completely.
Thanks ST. Especially when the map is about water catchments, primarily, not bushwalking-specific.
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link to Victorian Catchment Information Mapper..
 
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An interesting bit of information once told to be by John S was that he and a group of walkers once found the ruins of a hut somwhere near the top of champion spur. This was on one of his 1st walks in the area so it would have been a while ago.
 

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cool

i have been up feathertop ten or so times and have never heard of the nth razorback. so was just wondering if it actually existed?

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Matt, the North Razorback track is shown on B&W, P.V. map above. Discussion of it is about 5 pages back on this thread.

Sidetrack. That would probably be Razorback Hut, somewhere in my crate of stuff on Feathertop history (to become a book one day in distant future), I have details on it. From memory, it was put up in the 20's, had dirt floor and one shelf bunk. There were also a few gold mines on the Razorback and Champion Spur in the second half of the 1800's, so Siseman could have found one of them.
 

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if you have anymore feathertop info bogong, i love to read/look at it

I just discovered there are two ovens rivers! ovens east and ovens west!

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Matt. Most of what you have been asking is covered earlier in this thread. Pity its run to 8 pages....
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Bogong has given us heaps of info...
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Edit: Teletubby gives us some great updates on the North Razorback on p.2 of this thread..

The Razorback track DOES continue over both Mt Feathertop and North Peak summits, BUT the track that is labelled incorrectly was a link track. It branched SW from the Razorback track approx 450m N of the North Peak and followed the 1700m contour under the W face of North Peak climbing to almost 1800m then dropping until it joined the Tom Kneen track to the NW spur (leading to MUMC hut) at just over 1700m. I have not been there since the bushfires of 2002-03 until late Jan 06. You can pick it up directly above the last of the springs under the W face of Mt Feathertop as you cross the little creek (feeding into Stony River West branch).
 
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Bogong said:
Matt, the North Razorback track is shown on B&W, P.V. map above. Discussion of it is about 5 pages back on this thread.

Sidetrack. That would probably be Razorback Hut, somewhere in my crate of stuff on Feathertop history (to become a book one day in distant future), I have details on it. From memory, it was put up in the 20's, had dirt floor and one shelf bunk. There were also a few gold mines on the Razorback and Champion Spur in the second half of the 1800's, so Siseman could have found one of them.
Bogong.. I think we need some serious tracks.
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if u did that

you would wreck the park completely!

But if u had the track from the niggerheads to feathertop as a track. That would be a great track!

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I NEVER thought that I would ever say this, but that may be overdeveloping things a smidgeon!

Oh dear, does this put me in the ranks of the elites who want to keep the proletariat away from their mountains?

But I agree with Matt, a WALKING track between The Niggerheads and Feathertop would be very nice.
 

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yup,

but if u convince parks vic to make a track from fainters\niggerheads to feathertop, it will be one of the toughest tracks in Victoria and possibly australia.

I would love to do it

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matt77 said:
yup,

but if u convince parks vic to make a track from fainters\niggerheads to feathertop, it will be one of the toughest tracks in Victoria and possibly australia.

I would love to do it

matt
That's a big call, toughest in Oz. Probably right though.
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For an easy day trip with lots of 30 degree (60%) downhilling would recommend the "feather" which is at 4000 feet located south of the North Peak and still a little glacier when I visit every year on December 17 (birthday bash). Sometimes there is a snow cavern above the creek that one can walk through.
3 hours up from the river, even allowing 10 minutes to bash down blackberries at the beginning.
The correct route is shown on the old Algona map, the "East Ridge" access is too far south to get there.
 

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Aye, belle of the Baws, nice to espy.

4,000 feet, or 1220 of those metres, puts the 'feather', south of the Peak northern, on the eastern flank of the Feathertop massif?

... Such low country should be devoid of snow, so close to the Yuletide?

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And I thought we needed a little reminder of the Feathertop, resplendent in early September snow, 2003. Thank you to Heli... the aviator extraordinaire....
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Here we go.. VSG, maybe you got a contour scan of the country on the rest of the route down to the West Kiewa?
Note the very steep granite cliff shadowing the creek and the shape of a floating feather, which is the last snow to leave the mountain.
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