Observations Fire Season 17/18

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  1. Donzah

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    Getting hairy at jervis bay! Thor tanker being used
     
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    WOW, surfed at Cave early Tuesday morning. I seriously thought there was some back burning going on???
     
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    I'll go hav e a look later.
    Should be able to see it from here.
     
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    ripped from fb
    looks like it was taken in Milton near the Commi
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    Love Booderee NP ☹️
     
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    Unfortunately it's going to be an early start this season.
     
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    J Bay fire.
    Picture by Michael Hibberd .
    Taken at Hyams Beach ( inside the bay)
    Looking SE last night.
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    And confirmation today it was arson. 4 ignition points along a road at 4am.
    Have had a fire bug up this way too.
     
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    J bay?

    Some dodgy people around that part of the world.
     
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    wowsers loose flying


     
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    Yep..
     
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    Some obs I've noticed around Sydney's Northern Beaches this week.

    1) It's super dry - everywhere. Been riding through some trails the last few weekends and it's quite alarming how dry everything is leading into summer.

    2) The bushfire at Beacon Hill this week is a sign of how quick things can flare up.

    3) I really hope we get a good soaking soon or the risk of bushfire this summer is unfortunately going to be ridiculously high.
     
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    ...add to that, every fire in and around Sydney has been lit by a mental case.
     
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    which makes it even worse. God it f*cks me off hearing about these pr*cks
     
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    and how many are actually volunteer bush fire brigade members :eek:
     
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    tinder box (not the app)
     
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    Water restrictions will come back too. The population increase since the early naughties drought in Sydney is phenominal. Many new residents have not a clue as to how bad it can be in Oz, including the capital cities.
     
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    +1 works at Mt Wilson for a very astute 92 y o, who says he's never seen it so dry.
     
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    Mt Wilson is stunning....and a total entrapment.
     
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    The dry is concerning. Even in cool and calm conditions fire behaviour is scary at the moment
     
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    Really not that many in the scheme of things and they tend to be caught fairly quickly
     
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    40 degrees forecast for inland Sydney this Saturday.

    It's going to be a sh*tty day for fires.
     
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    Bad fire in Nowra.
     
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    Not Feeling great about this season. We had a break last year, but every year previous we have had fires (Not major) within 500m of the house, just lucky to have got onto them before they had a chance to really take off. A lot of growth around and lots of branches etc around the ground from lack of maintenance and high winds.
     
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    RFS thinking arson.
    Effing bastards!
     
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    DSE are rounding up fires in E.Gippsland today....
    Marlo,Dargo
    and a more serious fire at Buchan.
     
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    Fire warning issued this AM. Bush Fire out of Control (Northern NSW) is the only thing showing for NSW at the minute.
    https://www.rfs.nsw.gov.au/
     
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    California is on the receiving end of some pretty bad fire weather.
     
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    Good Rush...I just have trouble copying the article I was looking at with hookup thingee!
     
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    Well, the light showers in and around Sydney this week should help up with the fires this week, but this summer aint going to be fun by the looks of it.
     
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    Looks like California just had a 'Black Saturday'



     
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    ****.
    Iove that part of the states
    Sad
     
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    10 dead, 1,500 structures lost in California firestorm, among worst in state's history
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    At least 10 people have died and at least 1,500 homes, businesses and other structures have been destroyed as more than 14 fires ravaged eight counties throughout Northern California on Monday, authorities said.

    The Sonoma County Sheriff's Office reported seven fire-related deaths late Monday. In addition, two died because of the Atlas fire in Napa County, said a CalFire spokesperson. One person died as result of the Redwood Valley fire in Mendocino County.

    In Sonoma County, the dead were found "in the hot spots" of the fire, an official said.

    "We are a resilient county; we will come back from this,” said Sonoma County Supervisor Shirlee Zane. “But right now we need to grieve."

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    Napa County spokeswoman Molly Rattigan spoke of major fires in Calistoga, Atlas Peak and the Carneros area. (Oct. 9, 2017)

    “The smell of smoke is everywhere throughout the county,” Napa County spokeswoman Kristi Jourdan said.

    In Santa Rosa, Kaiser Permanente Hospital and Sutter Hospital were evacuated.

    “We have safely evacuated the Santa Rosa medical center due to fires burning in the area. Many patients were transported to Kaiser Permanente in San Rafael and other local hospitals,” Kaiser spokeswoman Jenny Mack said in an email. “All scheduled appointments and surgeries have been canceled for the day in Santa Rosa and the Napa medical offices.”

    The Santa Rosa fire began around 10 p.m. The cause of the fires is still under investigation.

    Upward of 300 firefighters are battling the blazes in Napa County, she said. There are three evacuation centers for Napa County residents, though one — the Crosswalk Community Church — is full, she said. The other two are the Calistoga Fairgrounds and at Napa Valley College.

    Those who evacuated described a chaotic scene.

    Around 2 a.m., the Sonoma County Sheriff's Office ordered evacuations around Kay Drive and Mark West Station Road in Windsor. Jen Ancic, 31, fled with her two young sons and boyfriend.

    As the family drove north on U.S. Highway 101, Ancic said she could see buildings and trees burning.

    “The whole town was on fire,” she said. “It was crazy."

    A Santa Rosa native, Ancic said that fires in the mountains are not uncommon, but “nothing like this has happened in Santa Rosa.”

    She was devastated to learn from online news reports that Coffey Park, where she’d played as a child and had recently held a recent birthday party for her son, had burned. “There’s nothing left,” Ancic said.

    Weather conditions — strong winds and high temperatures — made conditions ripe for a major inferno.

    “We also had really gusty winds and really warm temperatures,” said National Weather Service meteorologist Matt Mehle. “This time of year it does happen quite a bit. For the San Francisco Bay Area, our summer is late September to early October; that’s when we have our warmest and driest conditions.”

    The destructiveness of the fires shocked officials. The worst fire in recent California history was the Cedar blaze in San Diego County in 2003, which destroyed more than 2,800 homes. The 2007 Witch fire, also in San Diego County, destroyed more than 1,600. Both of those fires occurred in October.

    “This time of year is when historically the state’s largest, most damaging and most deadly fires have occurred," Upton said. “Critical fire conditions fanned by high winds" act as "a fuse for sparks," she said.

    A key reason why the fires burning through Napa and Sonoma counties became so devastating was that the ignitions happened at the worst possible moment: extremely dry conditions combined with so-called Diablo winds that fanned flames on the ridgetops with gusts as high as 70 mph.

    It’s similar to the conditions that caused one of the most destructive blazes in Northern California history, the October 1991 firestorm that struck the Oakland and Berkeley hills that killed 25 people and destroyed more than 3,300 single-family homes.

    The wine country fires so far haven’t approached that level of catastrophe, with officials reporting at least 1,500 structures lost, in part because the area burned isn’t as densely populated as the area that was hit hard in 1991.

    Staffers at Safari West, a wildlife preserve in Santa Rosa, fled the property Sunday night, but some employees returned Monday afternoon to find the fire “basically jumped over” the preserve Sunday night.

    “There are still a lot of fires all around so the situation is very dynamic at the moment,” Safari West executive director Keo Hornbostel wrote in an email.

    The 400-acre property is known for its rhinos, giraffes, zebras and other animals. Guests also can stay in tents on site.

    Marie Martinez, conservation and outreach manager at Safari West, said that staff and guests left the facility Sunday night, with staffers taking some birds and a tortoise with them.Erin Harrison, director of marketing and communications at Oakland Zoo, said the zoo is willing to coordinate evacuation of the Safari West animals if needed.

    Willon reported from Santa Rosa, St. John from Napa.

    Los Angeles Times staff writers Nina Agrawal in Santa Rosa, Makeda Easter, Rong-Gong Lin II, Joy Resmovits, Javier Panzar, Dakota Smith and Geoffrey Mohan contributed to this report.

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    Too many folk reported as missing.....it's not good.

    Looks like catastrophic fire weather....hopefully it will ease off.
     
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    A corner of a major urban centre is California was wiped off the face of the Earth...literally.





    If not for the timing of the windchange on Black Saturday in 2009, the same thing could have happened to Lilydale.
     
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    Sadly, many experts have been imagining it for decades.
     
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    Driest September on record in Portugal and continuing warm conditions help feed deadly fires in Portugal and Spain.
     
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    Fire Weather Warning
    for the Greater Hunter, Northern Slopes and North Western fire areas

    Issued at 3:57 pm EDT on Sunday 29 October 2017.

    Weather Situation
    Windy and very warm conditions are expected across northeast New South Wales on Monday, ahead of a strong cold front that will bring a gusty and cool south to southwesterly change late in the day.

    For Monday 30 October:
    Severe Fire Danger is forecast for the following fire areas:
    Greater Hunter, Northern Slopes and North Western
     
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    California is cracking the news again with out of control fires close to populated centres forcing evacuations of folk.
     
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    That would be la nina saying hello.
     
  46. Rush

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    California has a year-long fire season nowadays. A portent to our future perhaps?

    As @Majikthise points out, the La Nina conditions means there is no rainfall forecast in California for the next month or so.
     
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    Am not sure if we have Vic crews still in California or not ......it's been a prick of a fire season apparently over there so far.....

    Come Feb SA,VIC &NSW will be at it again.:emoji_see_no_evil:
     
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    Not a fun place to be at present.....bloody scary footage coming out of there.
     
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    Jeez. I've been there. It is about 15 km from downtown LA (to the extent that LA has a downtown). Deepest darkest suburbia.
     
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