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Fire season 18/19

Discussion in 'General & World' started by Majikthise, Jul 24, 2018.

  1. Ubiquitous Steve

    Ubiquitous Steve A Local Ski Pass: Gold

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    Wed rains are a many hours away..... :(....things r not good out there!
     
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    hongomania One of Us Ski Pass: 30 Day

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    Watch and act warning for dinner plain has been downgraded to advice *wipes sweat from brow*
     
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  3. Ubiquitous Steve

    Ubiquitous Steve A Local Ski Pass: Gold

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    hongomania One of Us Ski Pass: 30 Day

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    Not sure when this was taken (dinner plain). was shared by a friend and is from instagram

    IMG-20190304-WA0007.jpg
     
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    hongomania One of Us Ski Pass: 30 Day

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    lets hope the heavy rainfall is alot and negates any lightning impacts
     
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  6. Ubiquitous Steve

    Ubiquitous Steve A Local Ski Pass: Gold

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  7. currawong

    currawong Old but not so Crusty Ski Pass: Gold

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    thunderstorms heading across NE vic, reaching us now. 3 new fires reported in the Yackandandah/Kiewa area since 6pm. Hopefully they will mop them up quickly
     
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    POW_hungry Part of the Furniture Ski Pass: Gold

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    Lets be real, old mate Tony has his focus on bigger issues than fires:
     
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  9. Claude Cat

    Claude Cat On my bike Moderator Ski Pass: Platinum

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  10. Rush

    Rush Pool Room Ski Pass: Gold

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    The window is almost non-existent in our 21st century climate.

    My father-in-law's farm near Jindivick was OK. He evacuated on Saturday lunchtime.
     
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    Rabid K9 One of Us Ski Pass: Gold

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    Yep, often down to a matter of hours for some veg types.

    "Hold your nerve" is a favourite phrase when FRB, such a fine line between not burning, burning nice & clean, but still under control & the full shooting match.
     
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    snowgum One of Us

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    With so many Alpine /sub-alpine fires popping up all over the place - and being so quick to grow and hard to extinguish, its starting to have a scarily similar feel to the horrific 03/04 alpine fires and the almost as bad 07/08 fires which hit Buller Stirling).

    If this continues, I think many of us from the forum will be cancelling our Autumn trips - including me.

    Sure hope my gut is wrong!
     
  13. currawong

    currawong Old but not so Crusty Ski Pass: Gold

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    IMHO nowhere near as dry as 03. no measurement, just gut feel. In mt beauty we haven't watered the grass even once this year and it is still green and growing annoyingly fast. 03 was after prolonged drought. It lit up in early Jan and was put out by a big rain event at the end of that month. We are almost at the equinox now and there has been at least some rain every couple of weeks.
     
  14. currawong

    currawong Old but not so Crusty Ski Pass: Gold

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    Emergency app is showing 3 fires in camp creek gap area and westward. Presumably from the thunderstorm last night which thankfully dumped a fair bit of water too.
     
  15. Ubiquitous Steve

    Ubiquitous Steve A Local Ski Pass: Gold

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    Oh picnic table:eek: at Hollow Way....Team Bears hope they mop them up fast.... :whistle:
    Well Road in will afford fast access to First Attack Dozer ...one of the benefits of good forest roads,

    We are waiting for status report for lightening strikes over near Cobungra ....

    That footage of fire near Yack was scary....burning so hard and expanding so fast ......

    Hopefully rain tonight will slow things down .
     
  16. Ubiquitous Steve

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  18. Ubiquitous Steve

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    And other lightening strikes have affected area near Cobberas ....as if DSE can cover all of these !
     
  19. sastrugi

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    We've been watering since September and we're not even classified as drought.
     
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    Is @teckel around here or out on the trucks? Just read that the Narby Ultra Light tanker has been deployed to the Tarcombe Road fire along with Buxton and several other crews. Not too close to us but not too far either. Eternally grateful for all fireies during these tough days.
     
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  21. currawong

    currawong Old but not so Crusty Ski Pass: Gold

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    cfa trucks seen returning from mountain creek rd, hopefully a sign that their work is done. also sound of choppers seems to have stopped, or at least paused
     
  22. currawong

    currawong Old but not so Crusty Ski Pass: Gold

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    not saying that the rest of the state isn't dry, just not our alpine/sub-alpine neck of the woods
     
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  23. sastrugi

    sastrugi At the centre of it all Ski Pass: Gold

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    You are so lucky!
     
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  24. teckel

    teckel Pool Room Ski Pass: Gold

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    Well, our truck is still in the station - just been down there - sitting next to a dead baby snake. But the ultra light's not there. So they've taken it as part of a strike team, but I don't think anyone from Narby is in it.
     
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  25. mr

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    Yep ....dry as a chip central vic. We missed out on the Eldorado floods in dec. So far mostly little fires but caveat avenal seymour flowerdale kinglake heathcote. If we have a code red day the whole lot will go
     
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    I havent been up for a few weeks and dont plan on it!
     
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  27. teckel

    teckel Pool Room Ski Pass: Gold

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    Lovely and green in these parts too.
     
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  28. sastrugi

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    Message says it crewed by Marysville :thumbs:

    I wasn't sure how far you are from MV though.

    Your favourite snake hey? A dead one ;)
     
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    Looks like torrential rain over Euroa/Shean's Creek and heading our way *fingers crossed*

    **UPDATE 10 mins later:
    It's gone around us already :(
    Can see it over Strathbogie and beyond Mt Samaria already.
     
  30. Snowy Joey

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    Drove home yesterday from Canberra. Could see the Dargo plume from back of Mansfield. Couple of different aircraftt working on the Gembrook fire today, it has crept a bit closer toward town overnight. Still in containment lines.
     
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  31. teckel

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    They want Narby on strike team tonight. I can't do it as I couldn't get to sleep last night and only got a couple of hours sleep. So I'm in no way to be on a fireground (although I did attend a false alarm a couple of hours ago). Marysville is about 10km from here.
    Even dead snakes are evil. There's some tacky stuff on the floor of our meeting room (it got flooded a couple of weeks ago when we got 75mm rain in under 30 mins), and it got on that sticky stuff and couldn't move so died. I want some of that tacky stuff to use around my place.
     
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    School bus system round here now managed by the Vic Ed dept. Told yesterday morning buses would run as far as Emerald, so teens head off to school. Then got notification at 2pm yesterday, (whilst we are still driving back) that buses had been cancelled, leaving a heap of kids with no transport in monbulk. Buses cancelled again today.
     
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    The interstate strike teams are underway again.
    - strike team of Cat 9s (Landcruisers) left Sydney this morning
    - Albury area sent one yesterday I think it was
    - have seen SA deploying via both road and air
     
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  34. sastrugi

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    Just got notification for BF at Trawool, much closer to yours.

    Can hear plenty of thunder here to the north but still dry right here.
     
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    massive storm going through here right now, but very heavy rain with it.

    Apparently the most westerly of our fires (trappers gap) is out but there are 3 out of control on eskdale still
     
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    Cant help but notice how many up our way start on a road. Ciggie butts? Or glass on the roadside
     
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    Unattended campfires
     
  38. Ubiquitous Steve

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    Here we go again...
     
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    Few crews at Nar Nar Goon

     
  40. Ubiquitous Steve

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    U gotta admit it’s an amazing map .... :eek:
     
  41. Rabid K9

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    Very concerning is probably more a term I'd use.
     
  42. Ubiquitous Steve

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    How much high quality timber has been lost?
     
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    At this rate there'll be little forest left to fight over??
     
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    Thought this might interest some. Would be interesting as a timelapse overlay on fire edge

     
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  45. Ubiquitous Steve

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    Suppose never mind fuel reduction burning...Vicco goes big time with high intensity conflageration strategy!

    The target for HIC Burns has been now met for the fire season of 2018/2019....the wildlife can make their way back now after their relocation.

    Did we get to 40,000 ha perhaps Team Bears located decimal point in wrong place?

    The rains will come...then debate can continue on the divide between HIC Burns vs FR Burns!!!
    If only the wildlife could have voice in such discussion.........:whistle:
     
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    Yep. Vegetation regime change is a certainty in the high Alpine areas.

     
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  47. Ubiquitous Steve

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    Fuel Reduction Burns don’t stop fires ....they enable crews to bring out of control fires under control when conditions moderate.....they also reduce the likely hood of fires crowning and spreasing more rapidly.

    Politicians should not try to bambozzle the public with misleading information ....
    FRB strategy targets for total areas burnt was refocused to protect areas of high human habitation....thus the the total hectares being fuel reduced is now less.

    Sitting back doing no fireprevention work does save heaps of dollars.....
    You can see the results !!!
     
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    Steve: what Id like to see as a taxpayer and mtn lover is at minimum:
    - an end fin year table of planned burn stats x town or hamlet. Should include date & result of burn or reason for lack their of.
    Better still, provide this to public as a 'live-ish' doc, updated monthly or even weekly.

    Be a lot of admin but would stop this eternal bunfight with the mega greens and the rightie shock jocks slugging it out, even before the firecrews have mopped up. Just becomes L Vs R politics. Stupid!!
     
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    Majikthise Sage Moderator Ski Pass: Gold

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    Bradstock and a few others are advocating a different HR strategy . You create a 500m envelop around all communities. You clear and burn regularly. You create an ecological desert but create a low fuel hazard zone. You only burn elsewhere for ecological reasons maybe a 70 year cycle. Fire fighting assets are deployed to protect assets and counter ember shower. You rebuild houses that have designed resilience. The days of the wide area HR are numbered. ...because they are simply going to be ineffective. Thank you AGW.
     
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    we got 40mm rain yesterday, more than 1/2 of it in a 30 min deluge. However the midday-ish update today says that we still have 4 out of control fires over near the eskdale. no danger to property but damaging to bush and wildlife and until it is blacked out there is always the concern that it could flare up again. still, very mild compared to fires elsewhere
     
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