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Firewood and access reports NE Vicco

Discussion in 'Backcountry' started by Ubiquitous Steve, May 17, 2018.

  1. Ubiquitous Steve

    Ubiquitous Steve Part of the Furniture Ski Pass: Gold

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    He will pull trees off the road....he will deploy snig chains and carry gear in his ute.....goodness TeamBears will have a worthy rival!
    We need a ladder for gaining access to the top banks to despatch fallen trees.
     
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    Just stay well clear of Jeep Grand Cherokees - nice (lovely to sit in) cars that are so unreliable and misery prone, having had a close friend suffer for several long, long years! :(:confused::eek::mad::cry:
     
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    Team Bears got stuck into another trail blocker on Sunday...sorry about pic quality...we thought it was going to rain so only took out our little phone to take happy snaps!
     
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    Apologies for film quality ....we did exoect rain and were very pleased that it stayed fine for this work.We think that Mt Bikes could be ridden pretty easily between Lake Mt and The Keppels Hut 4x4 track....then Lady Talbot Drive to Mt Margaret Gap ....then about 11kms down hill towards Bitumen and then on to Buxton and the Igloo for refreshments!We will get one last look at the previously (recent works )from Upper Taggerty Gap back the 5kms to Lake Mt soon.We might go for chainsaw walks on Saturday .....mopping up any new stuff as best Team Bears can.
     
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    Ubiquitous Steve Part of the Furniture Ski Pass: Gold

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    Well I hope you get to lead some trips up here....it is splendid country .....many creeks..lots of firewood as you can see....and pretty easy terrain with some reasonable views....enjoy..
     
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    Better pics of the work last weekend and Team Bears delt with a new admission (mostly)but we need to return with crow bar at a later date to remove debri from roadway !Much slashing has been undertaken by DSE on the Mt Margaret Rd up to the MMGap.
     
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    Upper Taggerty Rd now rechecked from Keppels 4x4 Track out to concrete bridge which is situated about three kilometers from Lake Mt Main Road .That three kilometers was completely clear about two months ago before Lake Mt decided to lock its gates!More follow up work may continue next summer!
     
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    Spoke to a fella who walked NW spur up feathertop to MUMC and said it has been cleared by Parks. I walked bungalow and they have also cleared that.
    Not sure on the stoney tops/nth razor yet, I walked that 3 months ago and plenty of stuff down on the walking track but the road was cleared for fire access well past the gate that closes for winter. The walking track approach if not cleared would been a pain in the ass on skiis or walking with them strapped to your pack. I'll see if I can cut some stuff out next week if it hasn't been done.
     
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    Thanks for the update. I walked up the NW spur and down the Bungalow spur in April 2019 as training for Hannel's spur. The NW spur was quite overgrown. However the Bungalow spur had been properly slashed back seemingly the week before I walked down it in April 2019.
    The Team Leader may head up there and cut some wood for Fed. hut. We shall see what he does now that we are allowed out to play.
     
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    Yeah i walked it a few times and did some clearing from the bottom in may last year but it was pretty thick from snowline up. Good to hear it's been cleaned up as i think the Fed hut side may be a little busy this season so alternatives are always good.
     
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    Check out Champion spur.The fire trail stops about 2-3 kms below the summit ridge of The Razorback. I walked down it in late 2019.There is NO TRACK :-0 until you reach the fire trail which was recut by a bulldozer about 12 -18 months ago. I did a trip report for it on this website.
     
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    Got some wood into Keppels Hut...wood shelter empty....many folks having bbq.Overnight folk 4.

    2 groups of two.Walked up to steep part of track and a bit more....only a few miniature fallen branches to clear.French girl and her boyfriend went up Keppels Hut Track towards the top on a day trip....their first time in area.Other two mt bikes had ridden 70kms from Warburton and beyond.Igloo for hamburger and coffee with “two “sugars!
     
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    Nice and warm in the igloo!o_OBloody foggy out there ...nearly turned into Igloo before the driveway!:whistle:
     
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    I just read your TR and although I love a challenge, i save it for the top when I'm skiing. I don't think I would appreciate champion with skiis strapped on my back.

    Top effort, my quads are hurting just reading it.
     
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    You cannot ski down Champion spur from the Razorback. It is a trackless scrub bash through fallen trees. It is good to know this route as a general orientation of the region and walk it in summer. The Fire trail starts at about 1400 M. and drops straight down to the Ovens river, no relief or switchbacks!.
    It could be skiable for a couple of kms :-0 but I would rather ski the Bogong High Plains ,a far saner and more enjoyable plan , full stop.
     
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    Team Bears got a chance to partly restock wood shelter at Keppels Hut before barrier shutdown.Track up is a slippery mess...many folk utilising this area.....and crazies still coming in from the north on road bikes up Mc Millans Track.....which is best off being closed till a bulldozer sorts it out....it’s a four wheel drive wrecker but no signage to indicate that’s it is pretty serious stuff for mega clearance vehicles with lockers and winches!So that’s Team Bears final update on this area as barriers locked shortly .Mt Margaret Road in very good condition and note it’s been slashed both sides all the way up the 11kms to the Mt.MGap.Its been very cold up there over night this last week.....frosty corners for the entire day.So the ground is very cold.
     
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    McFadyen's track is serious stuff. Just walk a few hundred metres of it past Keppel's hut and you will see what should be a graveyard of ruined 4 WD trucks. Somehow such vehicles have escaped such a fate.
     
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    Axe or little hatchet wood be a good inclusion if possible for breaking up some wood....Team Bears too busy to do this.
     
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    Yes..sorry I can’t spell correctly.It should be closed off most probably .I tell folk not to go that way as they will be very sorry!You cannot take firefighting vehicles in there.....you will get stuck!
     
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    That section of the track sits at 1300 M. and could be skiable in the right circumstances. The winter gate is about 6 km north of Keppel's hut on McFadyen's track. Next Green season I will come in from Taggerty and drive up to the gate and walk in that way just compare access routes for the most popular hut in the Yarra Ranges area: Keppel's hut.
     
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    Oh it’s popular.....seriously DSE need to rework that road in there over next summer.Perhaps they also need to cull some dangerous trees around the Carpark....there are a couple of stags that should get taken out before they take humans and cars out...
     
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    DEWLP also need to reopen Lady Talbot Drive from both ends too. It has been closed since at least December from the Marysville end. It used to be promoted as a family friendly scenic drive from Marysville to Buxton with short walks and picnic spot options en route. It is now closed and there is a 4WD only sign at the locked gate near the Upper Taggerty Track junction.
    Maybe we should write to DEWLP about the access road and the dead trees that are swaying in the breeze that threaten to cause harm to life and vehicles near the hut?.
     
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    Boundary Management Trail has been chainsawed from end to end.
    Final effort was made yesterday by Team Bears in adverse snowy conditions.Much debri on ground but it is quite feasible to park at Blue Range Road and to use this trail to access Keppels Hut Track and thus Keppels Hut.Only a couple of larger trees to duck under....many fallen poles have been cut...but it’s quite possible to head through with snow shoes carrying a pack .This recent snow fall will bring operations to a close.When summer returns more work will be possible....some sections are flat and free of all debri...others are a little tighter....but it’s no longer an obstacle course ...a few short downhill sections need to be taken with precaution if on skis as debri around sides of track presents a hazard.

    We suggest ....walk those moderate steep short sections....ski the rest watching for debri.

    All up around seven days of work was put in over the last two months.
     
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    Lady Talbot Dve still locked from Mt Margaret Gap side.Nobody will be driving to Keppels just yet.Maybe somebody can ring DSE and find out when it’s going to reopen?
     
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    Lady Talbot road is locked at Mt. Margaret gap and there are some BIG trees still down on that road . Keppel's hut track is in shite condition with some challenging sections for even a lifted 4 WD as well as some big trees down on the track. Keppel's hut track is gated and locked. DEWLP are working on clearing the carriage ways. The Boundary track has at least 7 big trees down across it.
    Until the track to Keppel's hut is opened ,cleared and repaired I will not be able to collect my supply drop or do any work on the foot track from the hut to the LM ski trails.
     
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    You will need to call Marysville DEWLP.
     
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    Team Bears upgraded first 1.5km Approx of Boundary Track today.All debri cut to movable dimensions .
    Future trips will try to restore some order into the system.Looks like the 064 will be required again to deal with the “several” large diameter trees that have recently fallen according to reliable reports from Mr T.
    Road in good condition to Boundary Trail.
     
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    Team Bears did another afternoon on Boundary Track..It’s been recut up to the cutting on the first major rise ....today we recut from the the previous end point to almost the Cutting at the top of that rise.Future works are planned to restore some order in the track.Lady Talbot Dve remains closed from the Mt Margaret Gap end.
     
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    Another weekend spent on Boundary Track....Definately an alternative route into Keppels Hut now.The track has been well worked and is mostly clear of energy sapping debri.Some work remains.Several trees remain to be cleared but it’s of a higher standard now.So it’s possible to lug packs through to Keppels this way.The Management Gate remains closed at Mt Margaret Gap to Lady Talbot Drive.
     
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    Long Spur from the start of the foot route/end of the 4 x 4 access track to Bosseide( spelling?) Hill is a mess with a gazzillion fallen logs, head high scrub and black berries. The Team leader is needed badly out there with his bears.I have reported this matter to the vice President of the Mt. Bogong Club. I hope they can work with PV in clearing this route at the next club working bee. I will do a trip report about this trek soon .I have reported it to Bushwalking Victoria too.
     
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    Boundary Track is pretty well sorted now....future works will tidy it up somewhat.Its clear of most debri....so it’s now a pleasant walk through to Keppels Road way.Gate at Mt Margaret Gap(where I am at this minute)is still locked?
     
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    Another day was done up there Sunday....a late start after the overnight and morning rain...it was dry all afternoon.The crowbar was brought into the action today....things now greatly improved from end to end.More debri cut and pushed off the track.
     
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    Further work was carried out today until rain fell at 3.30pm.The 064 got a work out again...but it gets rather dangerous in the wet.Again many logs have been cut right back to the bush edge.It was not super windy for the afternoon up till around 5.30 pm.
     
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    Boundary Track now free of all fallen timber except for Cutting halfway along.
     
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    A big work out for Team Bears....nearly finished in “cutting”— w
     
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    Even Mr T can stroll through without bending!Two root balls are present in the cutting but the stumps are well cut back so Management 4x4s can scurry through or pull them out with a chain.Two trees remain but future works will see them delt with.The debri which has been made into moveable bits maybe tied up in future when time permits.:whistle:
     
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    The job in the cutting was finished today....all overhead trees gone and cut up into manageable bits.All root balls cut back as much as possible.:whistle:All before Xmas !LOL
     
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    A few more happy snaps of the Bears in action!
     
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    Some bloody bug lumps of wood there Steve.
     
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    The saws were cutting well....it’s just slow.And....proceeding slowly with extreme care was the order of the day.Everything is now safe.Nothing will slide or roll....Days spent in “The Cutting” were beautiful fine days.

    The 24inch bar was handling things well from a safe distance ....when the cut breaks the log it’s always adrenaline charged!
     
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    Wow! There’s some heavy regrowth there. When were the last big fire through that way ?
     
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    Black Saturday 2009 when the nearby town of Marysville was all but burnt to the ground. A hell fire.
     
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    Yes.....the bush is really buggered up there....young regrowth and most mature trees killed and trunks keep falling down!
     
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    This route provides year round access to Keppel's hut and Lake Mtn. It is shorter than the Mt. Margaret Gap to Keppel's hut via Lady Talbot drive route. With skis and Nordic ski boots strapped to the pack the route is becoming user friendly thanks to the tireless efforts of the Team Leader.
    Lake Mtn. resort and its management are becoming anti XC skier friendly so we must keep free BC XC ski access open. The next challenge is to get into the foot track that connects the hut with the ski trails. There are some major poles blocking the route .
    Plus that route needs to be brush cut / slashed back every autumn before the snow comes.
     
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    A lot of ground was made after suspension of Team Bear Activities due to Covid Restrictions that occured around the time of our winters photo.

    Once LTDve is reopened and access to the Keppels Track 4x4 end restored then the brush cutter will be taken for a walk .Access to H20 will be prioritised at the little creek crossing!

    Bears still not sure when LT Dve management gate is to reopen.But it must be soooon!:whistle:
     
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    Not just the Indians suffering a collapse !Team Bears are good at abusing the bearings and cheap Indian Tyres!But we returned on Day 4 with another one .
     
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    Cutting has been tamed....looks a whole lot more organised now!
     
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    More attention was focused today on Big Sticks Hill which is lower down than “The Cutting”
    Lots of debri was removed from on and beside the track.

    Bears saw Duke a deer hunter on the prowl first person encounted since we saw Mr T and friend coming along some time ago.It was a still ,warm and fine day till around 5pm when a little rain fell.Bears called it quits around then.
     
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    The Team Leader should consider doing some work with his Bears up on Long Spur and the AAWT route from the end of the 4 x 4 access track on Long spur up to Bossiea ( spelling ? ) hill.