Advice needed First time in Japan.With max 7 nights.

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  1. silva

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    We (hubby, 7 year old son and myself) are booked into Penke Panke from the 10th to the 20th of Jan. We have not stayed there before but checked it out this year when we were in Hakuba. Through the booking process Justin has been excellent - great communication and prompt responses to all my questions.
     
  2. Ludaning

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    Yep seriously looking penke. Will be hakuba 8-15. Might see you there Silva.
     
  3. Sandy

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    I've used Penke Panke for about 6-7 years on and off (generally when friends are interested in a more budget place).
    Justin runs a great operation, and it's improved even more over the years.
    It's in a good location for Happo, and the buses for Iwatake & 47 were about 20m from his driveway, but iirc now, you catch them from just near the Happo (Sakka) base.(about 70-80m away)
     
  4. Ludaning

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    Any other recommendations Sandy. Is there anywhere with single rooms and ensuite? Though I like the lodge idea.
     
  5. travelislife

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    You are unlikely to find that many places with ensuites if they are a lodge style property. If you want that you are more likely to need to try a hotel but the cost will go up.
     
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    Monomoki
     
  7. skichanger

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    It is all relative to how much you want to pay. There are places with double rooms with ensuites that you could probably book with single occupancy.
     
  8. Ludaning

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    All good. Just booked Penke Panke for 7 nights arriving the 8th.
     
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    Can't wait for the trip report!
     
  10. Ludaning

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    Very fancy
     
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    Good choice, last time we stayed - met people at Penke from Japan, France, Norway, UK, NZ and Australia. Good vibe, lots happening.
     
  12. Donza

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    This
    I had dinner back there in 2011
    was nice....18,000 yen.
     
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    You have a 5 grand budget !!!!!
     
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  15. silva

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    See you there - we arrive on the 10th, you cant miss us, we have a crazy snowboarding 7 year old in tow.
     
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  16. Ludaning

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    Not just for accomodation. That's total
     
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    Nagano Snow Shuttle bus is nice and easy, direct from Narita to Hakuba bus terminal.Takes 5-6 hours but simplifies transport . Justin or one of his people will pick you up from there, as long as it's a reasonable hour.
     
  18. Zimboo

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    Doesn't work for the OP. Flying with ANA to Haneda arrives 5am.
    Best to take Monorail from Haneda Airport to Hamamatusho, then on a train to Tokyo station on JR Yamanote line.
    Then Shink to Nagano and bus from Nagano station to Hakuba. Be in Hakuba by late morning and skiing in the afternoon.
     
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  19. Sandy

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    There's a similar bus that leaves from Haneda Airport at 9:30am.
     
  20. Zimboo

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    Yep...................4hr wait for bus and then 5+hrs in bus - arrive at 3pm. Each to their own, but I know what I'd be doing - skiing in the afternoon. :)
     
  21. Ludaning

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    That's my plan. Plus want to ride the fast train.
     
  22. gaz35

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    you might consider Chuo taxi on the way out. Picks up at Haneda and drops off at accommodation. Take the fast train back to Tokyo and courier your ski bags to the airport. Saves lugging them
     
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    Another option for single room and ensuite is Mojo Lodge. I was looking at Penke Panke for my last trip and also emailed enquiry to Mojo and Justin replied. Guess he also manages a few other lodges in the area. I will be at Mojo Lodge from 21 to 26 January after Nozawa Onsen.
     
  24. Sandy

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    I think the way it works is that deliveries for Fridays take longer. It used to be I coudl send on a Wed night to get to a resort on a Friday, but now I need to send on a Tuesday.
    OTOH, I can send from a resort on a Sunday arvo, and it gets to my place on a Mon or Tue night.
     
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    This. In our 3 three trips to Hakuba I reckon this is by far the best option
     
  26. Ludaning

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    That's the slow train right ? How long does that take.
     
  27. Sandy

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    4 hours.
    It's not that slow.

    (the "slow train"(s) will take 7 hours)


    And the Shinkansen + bus will take around 3 hours at best, if the connections are good with the bus.
     
  28. Crispy013

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    Second vote for suepr asuza from Shinjuku straight to Hakuba. Very scenic ride. Just catch the bullet train on your way back to Tokyo if you want the 'fast train' experience.
     
  29. silva

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    We flew ANA to Tokyo on the 8th of Jan this year. On our way to Hakuba we did the Monorail - Train - Shink - Bus then got picked up from the Bus station by our accommodation Hosts. We were unpacked and sitting in the Lounge at our accommodation having a drink by 11am. Was easy - even with board bags and a 6 year old in tow and considering we had never done it before (so didnt know where to go) I thought it was pretty seamless (was crowded though as was the Saturday of the long weekend - you arrive the Sunday so should not have that problem).
    On the way home we had 3 nights booked in Shinjuku so caught the Super asuza which goes from Hakuba station to Shinjuku station. We had planned to Takkayubin our bags to the airport but found out Friday morning that they would not take them - they would have been picked up Friday lunch time and we flew out Monday Night - they said that was not enough time so unless you have a week or so planned in Tokyo I would not rely on the Takkayubin service. The Super asuza train took around 4:30 and was quite scenic and relaxing. The downside was that it seemed to take forever - no connections so nothing to break up the trip. I would use the Super Asuza again if staying in Shinjuku but if staying elsewhere would probably stick with the Shink/bus combo.
     
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  30. skichanger

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    Will be flying into Haneda for the first time soon. Might gopro it and ,make a video of how to get to Nagano.
     
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    There's one been done I think skichanger. I'll have to search for it. Good idea if it hasn't.
     
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    One of those is actually quite a good guide to Shinkansens.

     
  34. Charles

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    Just go anywhere then mark it off. Year after go somewhere else in Japan. Too many options and I feel next year will be snow at most resorts. I guess you go safe on your first trip to dip your toes then progress to less common places until you're shacked up with a Grizzly in a cave that doesn't speak a word of English somewhere north with a pair of snow shoes and an out of date map.
     
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  35. Ludaning

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    That's pretty much my conclusion. With all the choices I was getting confused. Chose Hakuba this time to see how it all goes.
     
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  36. Ludaning

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    Sounds like my plan for next year. Arrive 8th onto Hakuba for 7 nights then back to Shinjuku, hotel Gracery , for 2 nights then home.
    Was thinking the airport bus transfer to Hakuba on the way there then courier my bags and Train it back as I want to stop at matsumoto castle.
    I emailed Justin at Panke and he said only need 48 hrs for courier service. Will have to double check.
     
  37. Sandy

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    You could also consider the Alpico Bus from Shinjuku. Takes about 5.5 hours, but there are stops, and takes you to the Happo bus station.

    One thing to note regarding Takkyubin. I live in Yokohama, and I've noticed that they seem to allow 3 days FROM the Tokyo/Yokohama/Kanto Plain region to Nagano/Niigata.... this has changed recently, as I used to be able to send 2 days before.
    However, sending it BACK, I've sometimes had it delivered the day after sending it, in the evening, and never more 2 days later.
    So Justin at Penke Panke is generally right about his end at Hakuba, but not necessarily right at the other end.
     
  38. Ludaning

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    So your saying if I couriered it that it may be delivered the next day. If I have it delivered to the airport will I need to be there the same day to collect it. Or does the airport store it.

    If it can be delivered earlier ie next day, I guess I can have it sent to my Tokyo hotel.
     
  39. Sandy

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    You will need to ask them at the time. But you are more likely to get it delivered to the Airport, where they will store it. (ask them though)
     
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    I leave hakuba on the 15th and fly out on the night of the 17th. That should be plenty of time for my bags to be delivered to the airport yeah ?
     
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    To the airpot always requires a little longer than usual. In the past it has been send your bags 2 days beforemthe plane leaves. This time I had to pay for expidited delivery whenI sent my bags 2 days before my flight left. So something has changed recently.
     
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    Do they let you know how long it will take before you book?
     
  43. Sandy

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    They will tell if there's not enough time
     
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    Thanks Sandy. So much to plan. And doing it on my own. So trying to get as much info as I can.
     
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    How many bags have you got?
    Someone with more local knowledge will correct me but I think there may be luggage lockers at Matsumoto station
     
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    Will have one ski bag and thinking one large ish backpack. Just bought a double size douche bag so hoping to fit a lot in that then. I have whelly luggage but hoping not to need that.
     
  47. Sandy

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    The problem will be the ski bag at Matsumoto. That's why Takkyubin would be needed more than anything else.
     
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    I believe "Ace Inn Matsumoto" (next to the station) has helped with luggage storage in the past.
    500Y Fee. Needed to arrange in advance. Might be worth checking out (as a backup option).
     
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    I didn't really rate it.

    Too western and too many "dudes"
     
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