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Opinion First Time Skiing in Japan - best location?

Discussion in 'Japan' started by Jesse Tillman, Jun 1, 2019.

  1. Jesse Tillman

    Jesse Tillman Early Days

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    Oh didn’t see the bit about the ski bus. I’ll look into that option in case. We don’t have to ski the arvo. But wanted 3 days skiing. So 13,14,15 then were hoping Tokyo 16/17 and Osaka 18/19 flying out 9pm on 19th. Do you think that’s too much? Sorry for all the questions
     
  2. Jesse Tillman

    Jesse Tillman Early Days

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    Thank you - one more annoying question. Any chance you know what station we would get into and go from in Kyoto and what area is should look for a hotel? Please and thank you
     
  3. Donzah

    Donzah Old n' Crusty Ski Pass: Gold

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    Kyoto station. Look for accommodation there.
     
  4. Donzah

    Donzah Old n' Crusty Ski Pass: Gold

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    Minimal walking!
     
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    Unless you're dead set on seeing Tokyo, I'd just skip it and spend more time in Kyoto / Osaka. You'll have to factor in the cost of the transport between Hakuba and Tokyo and back to Osaka.

    Alternatively, if you haven't booked your flights you could do an open jaw and fly out of Tokyo. The Hokuriku Arch Pass would be decent in this case.

    http://hokuriku-arch-pass.com/en/
     
  6. Sandy

    Sandy Dark Sith Lord of the Pool Room Moderator Ski Pass: Gold

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    Yes, the hokuriku is a good pass provided you stop twice or more, or backtrack.
     
  7. PiggabeenBoarder

    PiggabeenBoarder Hard Yards

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    I second Nozawa Onsen, my family and I love it there. Easy to get to on the shink and short bus, awesome town, good snow and resort and not too busy relatively speaking. Check Nozawa Holidays, they have a few accomm options in various locations and prices.
     
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  8. Mister Tee on XC Skis

    Mister Tee on XC Skis A Local Ski Pass: Silver

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    What Is Nippon like for XC skiing?
     
  9. bluestick

    bluestick One of Us Ski Pass: Gold

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    Assuming you are referring to track xc. In summary it’s ok with small ‘club’ like tracks all over the place but mainly short distances. Biggies include snow harp in hakuba and takino near Sapporo. Quite a few resorts have xc track options of around 3 to 5 km eg nosawa, furano, asahidake, tazawako, zao Lisa etc. can require a bit of asking research to find Strava heat map can help! Photo north Hokkaido Nayoro good tracks.
     
  10. Mister Tee on XC Skis

    Mister Tee on XC Skis A Local Ski Pass: Silver

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    Thanks but what about 15km + day touring on BC XC skis?
     
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    bluestick One of Us Ski Pass: Gold

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    Lots of options but more orientated to true bc touring for turns. spring would probably be a better time. As far as I know there is nothing like the longer xc trails you find in europe esp Scandinavia or even here eg falls/Stirling/ Hotham.
     
  12. Mister Tee on XC Skis

    Mister Tee on XC Skis A Local Ski Pass: Silver

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    Hi.Thanks for replying. I love the Long day tours you can do on XC skis from Falls Ck. .However I am not an Alpine Touring kind of skier.
     
  13. Sandy

    Sandy Dark Sith Lord of the Pool Room Moderator Ski Pass: Gold

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    One thing to note. In northern Japan, the snow falls to sea level, so you don't need to go ALPINE touring. Just about any valley will be flat enough for XC skiing, if you want to break your own path. Make sure you don't ski over a pond though.
    Probably the best strategy would be to ski on summer roads between rice paddies, which are not cleared of snow in the winter. Or any uncleared road.
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  14. Mister Tee on XC Skis

    Mister Tee on XC Skis A Local Ski Pass: Silver

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    I don't mind going down some not too steep hills to break up the diagonal stride and use some different muscles while out and about on planks.
     
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    bluestick One of Us Ski Pass: Gold

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    Or on the benches next to rivers you often see a single informal ‘xc’ track in the towns.
     
  16. M_G

    M_G M_G_ = Make skiing great again Ski Pass: Gold

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    When I lived down on the coast there were people who would XC on the beaches and beachside paths
     
  17. Jesse Tillman

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    Looked at booing with Hai Lodge but disheartened that every enquiry sent via their website and Facebook page are seen but haven’t been replied to - is this unusual?
     
  18. Sandy

    Sandy Dark Sith Lord of the Pool Room Moderator Ski Pass: Gold

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    It's summer....often, only the places run by foreigners will answer this early.
     
  19. Jesse Tillman

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    Ahh ok thanks - worried I’ll miss out on accom if I don’t book - 5 months to go!
     
  20. Lucky Pete

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    Hai Lodge is owned by Gavin who works on the oil rigs during the green season hence why he may not be replying just yet. If you want to stay in a nice Japanese Hotel (Belle Cour Inomata) in the same area let me know, the owners are my wife's cousins and the chef there is epic.
     
  21. M_G

    M_G M_G_ = Make skiing great again Ski Pass: Gold

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    I think I've sorted something pretty good for her in Akakura. @Paradox told her to shoot me a PM and we went from there.

    I found out when researching for her that the travel time & cost to Hakuba and Myoko is virtually the same from Osaka. I was surprised - I just presumed Hakuba would quicker. Must be the slow train leg either from Itoigawa or Matsumoto.
     
  22. Froff Life

    Froff Life A Local Ski Pass: Gold

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    5 months out is, by Japanese standards, a looooooong way out. Most Japanese run accommodations open their bookings 3 months before the date. Relax, plenty of time to book.
     
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  23. Jesse Tillman

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    You’ve been an AWESOME help! Thank you
     
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  24. Jesse Tillman

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    Lol thank you - makes me feel better!
     
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    Hi, been Backcountry so not on line.
    Booking a bit odd at their website. I think I managed to do it from computer not phone, from the pull down menu. Managed to get the place where you make the booking and pay deposit. Got an acknowledgement email and within 24 hrs a booking confirmation.