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Fischer Boot sizing

Discussion in 'Backcountry' started by Sloppy, Jun 15, 2020.

  1. Sloppy

    Sloppy First Runs

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    Hi all, thanks for your warm acceptance. I'm trying to buy a pair of (Fischer Travers) boots online (from Tassie). Iv'e only ever hired boots and I'm not sure of my size. I thought i'd worked it out, that MP refers to foot length. I looked at random charts from different sources and they vary in the way they correspond to shoe size. Fischers boot app measures me around 27.5 on the longer one, and my ruler agrees.. but then when I find their size chart it does not add up. In bushwalking boots I'm a AU 10.5 and average width. There doesn't seem to be much point to MP as a sizing guide unless the charts then allow for boot size? I should be 29.5 on the chart? (I understand a boot fitter would be best but for now the return postage for a couple of boots is much cheaper : ) Thanks.

     
  2. skifree

    skifree A disciple of the blessed avi giraffe Moderator Ski Pass: Gold

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    Where did you hire from? They should have the size you hired on record.

    What sort of boot are we talking about here?
     
  3. Sloppy

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    Thanks. Various NSW resorts, it's been many years. A lightweight touring boot.



    (admin sorry about the double topic I'm not sure how that happened or how to delete the previous topic)
     
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    skifree A disciple of the blessed avi giraffe Moderator Ski Pass: Gold

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    fixed
     
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    skifree A disciple of the blessed avi giraffe Moderator Ski Pass: Gold

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    If it was Wilderness Sports I know their files go back a few years with trouble..,,,
     
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    Thanks. More like 12-13yrs ago, and the last years skiing were just around Selwyn (where my family worked). But generally does Mondo work this way, relates to foot length then you add a couple of sizes? Or is the chart wrong. There's something I'm not understanding.
     
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    andrewn Hard Yards

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    For what it's worth I'm looking at these boots as well. Through the Fischer app I was measured as size 27.5 which matches my last 2 boot purchases (Salomon and Nordica). I got these both from a boot fitter and the shell fit is tight (a good thing!). My shoe size is US 10/10.5 which would put me at 28.5 based on that chart. My current touring boots are 28.5 and the fit sucks. Very sloppy. So I'm not sure there is much point trying to correlate shoe size with mondo sizing.
     
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    Jacko4650 One of Us Ski Pass: Silver

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    My foot measures 275mm and it just so happens I fit mondo 27.5 boots. Seems very simple to me.
     
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    Having worked in xc hire the charts are only a rough guide and not transferable across brands.

    Best success for remote sizing was using the mondo number out of customer’s sandshoes. That’s probably your best start point to get some boots in the mail.

    Fischer were typically a narrow fit.

    A faint possibility is to see Graham in Find Your Feet in Hobart. If anyone has a stash of xc boots in Tas he might know.
     
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    Thanks andrewn, yes,that's even more confusing for me as there's no way I could wear US 10/10.5. Maybe I like a loose fit but it doesn't feel that way, all my boots are 11.5US. Keeping in mind that Fischer are 27.5-28 & 28.5-29 it doesn't really add up for either of us.
     
  11. Chaeron

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    Some brands have a narrower or broader last and can accomodate a higher instep.

    If you’re talking Fischer in Oz we’re normally assuming you’re excluding alpine, tech or telemark and are probably talking Nordic NNN/ XC. BUT the Traverse is a Tech. boot.

    https://blisterreview.com/gear-reviews/2016-2017-fischer-travers-carbon

    In which case last width and overall boot volume are as much of an issue as mondopoint....
     
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  12. andrewn

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    Yeah, it's confusing. Different brands fit differently as well. Good luck with whatever you decide!
     
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    Dynafit typically narrower, Tecnica specify low volume, mid volume, high volume, Scarpa frequently a bit wider.

    Don’t know for the other brands as well ....

    Get out some baking paper or similar, trace your foot at the front toe, and at the widest point (frequently at the toe joints - both at the base of your foot and higher up ( if you have a high, broad foot, your feet might be wider a bit higher up) - that way you can determine the ‘last width’ of your foot, along with the mondopoint - most tech boots will specify the last width.

    Or, go to a regular shoe shop and ask them to measure your feet.

    For many folks one foot is wider or longer than the other....
     
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    Thanks for that, I did find that review. Think I'm a bit awkward 104mm wide but maybe big in volume. I was drawn to these (the cheaper GR model) as the reviews mention being happy with them from the box and the Boa setup allowing some volume adjustment. I just remeasured my feet and I'm thinking the app may be out a bit, I'm surely closer to 280 than 275mm (which is the same Fischer boot size anyway).
     
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    Mondopoint length and last width are your minimum baseline.

    From there consider ‘foot volume’ - height of instep etcetera.

    If you have any option hiring boots, or know historically what ‘kind’ of foot you have - @skifree is on the money above. Find a reason to visit the mainland.... and buy instore....
     
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    We aren't allowed out :( until (possibly) late September and it's 7hrs return to Launceston /Hobart. I'd never had reason to consider it before but I think I have relatively fat wide-ish feet which explains the bigger sand-shoe size. The Travers are 100mm, Iv'e seen some others out to 104mm and found this link: https://patriotfootbeds.com/blogs/news/best-ski-touring-boots-for-wide-feet but they start to get heavy.. and not a lot wider. I have a feeling I'm going to need to have any boot worked on.. (thanks for all the replies, getting a better feeling for why a specialist boot fitting is so relevant).
     
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  18. skifree

    skifree A disciple of the blessed avi giraffe Moderator Ski Pass: Gold

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    A start would be a phone call or two.
     
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    Go into town and have a cobbler measure your feet. Then you have the objective info. you need.

    Mondopoint and last width - you’re 2/3 of the way.

    Then decide on higher volume vs. mid-volume.

    Some boots are designed better than others for stretching. (Grillamid)

    https://www.tetongravity.com/forums/showthread.php/299556-Widest-tech-boots

    Also start looking into footbeds and custom liners.

    Some mainland stores have a longer returns policy than others.....

    Don’t go past aussieskier.com fr instance... or Bumps, Rhythm, Wilderness Sports!

    https://www.rhythmsnowsports.com.au/collections/backcountry-ski-touring-boots

    https://www.wildernesssports.com.au/collections/ski-boots-1

    https://aussieskier.com/collections/alpine-touring-ski-boots

    https://bumps.com.au/backcountry/backcountry/touring-boots.html
     
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  20. matt turner

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    Ive Ive brought three sizes of travers boots online fir myself and family members
    Ordered 27.5 for myself but was very tight,and my daughter size 26.5 ended up taking them
    I then ordered 28.5 for myself which seem to fit really well
    Will try this weekend to find some snow
     
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    28.5/(29) seems a great fit here too. It's just firm all over, not far from the end, no movement around the heel but can still wiggle the tootsies. A bit of pressure high above the arch if anywhere but I can get that fixed if it's going to be a problem. I can't see much point in adding charts with shoe sizes as well, they just confused things. Which must be the case with all different brands /charts I saw. Nice boots, the boa really needs minimum adjustment and the cuff has a good flex when unlocked and walking.

    Any ideas what the additional silver insole is included for? It's the only thing I've not found mentioned anywhere. cheers all!! Let it snow!!
     
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    The additional insert goes under the liner uf you want to make the boot half a size smaller
     
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  23. Sloppy

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    Ah right. Thanks. So really 29MP as they are. Maybe i'll need it with the thinnest socks or the liner moulds a bit.