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seatguru is great!
Don't rely on seatguru for ANY airline outside the US. They are notoriously bad for Asian airlines, and are completely unresponsive whe anyone attempts to get them to correct their errors. You are better off searching flyertalk, or visiting the airline's own website. Although this won't tell you what the seat pitch is, you can get a fairly good idea by comparing to known airlines with the same aircraft. You also get a pretty good idea by looking at the number of seats in a row. e.g. If you see 9 across in a dreamliner, you know you're gonne be squashed.
 
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I'm asking the question (but I think I know the answer).

Friends booked their adult children on Singapore Airlines return from Japan on points a few months back.
Late Feb. Haneda - Signapore - Perth. Still yet to book an internal flight Sapporo - Haneda.

Looks like my 19yr old is going to come over with me (while PB is off scaling FkOff big mountains) earlier in Feb and return home with their boys. I thought rather than send the kid home alone Id book him on the same flights as his friends.

Holy High Prices Batman!!
They want $1831 for a one way ticket.
(I can get both of us Perth to Sapporo on Cathay 2 weeks before for that price!)

I think the extra dollars to know he has buddies if they get snowed in, or whatever, is worth it (kinda) but what I'm wondering now, and asking the ski.com.au brains trust is "do you reckon there is any chance of getting a lower price than that if we watch and wait?" The boy himself has said he is happy to fly home alone to save the expense, but I'd be happier if he has a buddy on the flights/change overs.
 

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Was tempted to book again for our 4th trip for late feb/early. (Have leave approved). But hard to pull the trigger on $2400 for 2adults, 2 kids. We have been spoiled and I looked back, last year march $1445, the year before also march, $1535. These are GC to NRT on jetstar - their direct flight when travelling with kids is a winner for us.
 

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Was tempted to book again for our 4th trip for late feb/early. (Have leave approved). But hard to pull the trigger on $2400 for 2adults, 2 kids. We have been spoiled and I looked back, last year march $1445, the year before also march, $1535. These are GC to NRT on jetstar - their direct flight when travelling with kids is a winner for us.
$600 pp is a pretty good price i would have thought.
 

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$600 pp is a pretty good price i would have thought.
Yeah, I understand its pretty good price, but have only ever paid $350-$500 including all extras. It adds another $1k to the trip, and I'm a frugal cheapskate :)
 

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Yeah, I understand its pretty good price, but have only ever paid $350-$500 including all extras. It adds another $1k to the trip, and I'm a frugal cheapskate :)
Far out!!
If I could get flights for that Id be booked by now!
 

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I agree, I've paid around that $2400 to $2600 for 2 adults and 2 kids including all gear baggage for the last couple of years, out of Gold Coast (including next Feb). I'm thinking thats totally fine
 

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350 - 500 is ridiculously cheap and clearly not the norm.
Yet thats the price I've paid every year for the last 3 years. Haven't paid over $1600 for 4ppl yet. But I do understand its very cheap.
 

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Im paying $1150 per person for me and 2 kids. Perth to Tokyo with Garuda, 2hr stop in Jakarta. Best I could get without taking a 30 hr flight. Leave Perth at 5.30pm Arrive at Haneda 8.50am
 

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Im paying $1150 per person for me and 2 kids. Perth to Tokyo with Garuda, 2hr stop in Jakarta. Best I could get without taking a 30 hr flight. Leave Perth at 5.30pm Arrive at Haneda 8.50am

I didn't see any options like that around, so I figure you're flying in a different date range than me.

I've just booked with Singapore airlines from Perth, 13 hours with a 1 hour layover in Changi. $1350 all up including an $80 upgrade to Standard economy on the way home. I got the price down to $920 with about 40k Kris FF points that I've transferred from the credit card (via Velocity FF). Seemed like a good time to transfer and use them, before the bank puckers the value of buying Velocity points on the 9th of Nov.
 
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I didn't see any options like that around, so I figure you're flying in a different date range than me.

I've just booked with Singapore airlines from Perth, 13 hours with a 1 hour layover in Changi. $1350 all up including an $80 upgrade to Standard economy on the way home. I got the price down to $920 with about 40k Kris FF points that I've transferred from the credit card (via Velocity FF). Seemed like a good time to transfer and use them, before the bank puckers the value of buying Velocity points on the 9th of Nov.
depart 11th Jan back the 22nd. It seems like its a standard Garuda flight as I go the same one in March
 

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Apparently Qantas about to have a rush hour sale for Japan. Sale from 4:00pm to midnight
No idea of the prices. just got an email from them.
 
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Ah, relax on that. Not likely much interest in flights from 10 May to 31 July..
 

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Has an impact:
Jet fuel maybe 50% higher.

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Has an impact:
Jet fuel maybe 50% higher.

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Clear correlation, flight costs for me to Tokyo EX Perth over the years:
Jan 2013: $1248 (Cathay)
Jan 2015: about $800 (Malaysian)
Jan 2017: $800 (Garuda)
Feb 2018: $1000 (Singapore Airlines)
Feb 2019: $1350 (Singapore Airlines)
 

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I just booked and paid deposit for what looks good for me and MrsOG: PE on JAL on Feb 17th from SYD to NRT returning on Feb 28th from NRT to CBR via MEL with base price just under $1670 pp.

However it does involve about 7 hours in MEL from 11PM arrival till 6:30AM dep for CBR. That early flight back was lightly booked as one can imagine, which is why the price was low, so we paid $150 pp extra to take an 11:30AM flight to get an extended layover to enable a decent night at an airport hotel. Additional cost of course for that.

Daytime flight to Japan and back suits us well even if it means nights at hotels on arrival and a day either end for getting to Hakuba and back to Narita. Will allow us nine nights / eight days at destination.

PS. Noticing the old thread about Japan errors I noticed this hint

...Oh, and dress very lightly for JAL flights. They seriously overheat their planes!
I'd seen that elsewhere, probably on this forum. So shall remember that next Feb and just board in Oz summer wear. Japanese hotels are usually way too hot (meaning summer PJs, at most, are enough in in winter) so can believe it and be ready although the only JAL flights I've done before were Osaka - Sapporo - Haneda and they were fine.

Hottest flight ever for me was on an ancient Swiss A340 from Singapore to Zurich where the aircon was patchy: cold in some areas but where I was it was sweltering and I had to sit with shirt unbuttoned and people around were fanning themselves with seat pocket pamphlets etc and doing Singapore Airlines once to Singapore then London, it was overheated on both sectors with a tall pommie woman beside us about to pass out the whole wa.
 
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Jetstar flight special on now, I proxy booked for Feb 2019 and found flights for $600-$700 return
Just did the same. My dates a bit different but it's costing $1300 for the dates I want (i.e. dep/arr Sat/Sun).
$257 for baggage!
So a $318 cheap MEL-NRT sector becomes $1300 return. No thanks.

Anyone flown Philippine Air? (proxy quote $755)
 

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Just did the same. My dates a bit different but it's costing $1300 for the dates I want (i.e. dep/arr Sat/Sun).
$257 for baggage!
So a $318 cheap MEL-NRT sector becomes $1300 return. No thanks.

Anyone flown Philippine Air? (proxy quote $755)
I haven't flown PAL, but beware the flights are on a A321 and LONG transit times at MNL
 

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I considered flying with Phillipines Air via Manilla to Tokyo.....for about 5 minutes.
 

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Never flown with them but they look okay...

I dunno.

A friend is flying Brisbane to Sapporo before year’s end. Will find out and report back.
 

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Just booked flights last night. Not as cheap as we usually get but a very good price.
4 people Gold coast to Narita on J* with 3x bag over, 4x bag on return including oversize for skis for total $2222. Last week feb, first of march, 2 weeks.
 

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Just booked flights last night. Not as cheap as we usually get but a very good price.
4 people Gold coast to Narita on J* with 3x bag over, 4x bag on return including oversize for skis for total $2222. Last week feb, first of march, 2 weeks.
Wow they are excellent prices, well done!
 

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You will easily save triple the cost of paying to take the ski bags because you won't have to rent. Win! :D
Still have to rent skis for hubby, doesn't have his own yet. Ski bag is maxxed out with mine and 2 kids skis.
 

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So... trying to seriously consider flying Philippines vs JAL. Obviously JAL the benchmark - dat 787 with only 8 across economy + 10h from MEL.

But is it worth a $700 premium. My findings:
  • Flights are PR208, PR432 and PR431, PR207 MEL-NRT return (HND also possible but 6h layover instead of 3-4)
  • According to FlightAware the aircraft on all the above flights are A330 widebody jets
  • You get 2 x checked bags (includes skis) and whilst the weight is not specified 20-23kg a reasonable assumption one thinks
  • Timing not great (have to waste a Sat/Sun getting to/from Japan, return to MEL 4am)
  • Safety record is good
So all up it could be worth wasting an extra 6h each way, slumming in MNL and warm beer to save $700 or travel for approx half the cost of the JAL flights.
 

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Jetstar flight special on now, I proxy booked for Feb 2019 and found flights for $600-$700 return
Just did the same. My dates a bit different but it's costing $1300 for the dates I want (i.e. dep/arr Sat/Sun).
Just booked flights last night. Not as cheap as we usually get but a very good price.
4 people Gold coast to Narita on J* with 3x bag over, 4x bag on return including oversize for skis for total $2222. Last week feb, first of march, 2 weeks.
I'd looked at J* class when thinking about the JAL PE price I ended up paying. I had done J* to Osaka a few years back and thought it was pretty good (just half a dozen people in the * class cabin). However with the dates / day of week factor there wasn't much saving and was somewhat less convenient. Maybe because I was looking into it last Friday morning I wasn't getting the J* sale price, but no regrets.

So... trying to seriously consider flying Philippines vs JAL. Obviously JAL the benchmark - dat 787 with only 8 across economy ...
Full marks to JAL for sticking with 2-4-2 in their 787s, as per Boeing's original design concept when they invented the 'Dreamliner' tag, unlike other airlines such as Qantas who kept the tag but destroyed the concept by making the seats only as wide as on the 737s to fit nine across. That is value for money so if you can do stretch to use them. We are doing them PE and notice that is 2-3-2 on the 787 as compared with Qantas 2-4-2 in PE, and 42" pitch instead of 38" in cheapskates Qantas.
 
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So... trying to seriously consider flying Philippines vs JAL. Obviously JAL the benchmark - dat 787 with only 8 across economy + 10h from MEL.

But is it worth a $700 premium. My findings:
  • Flights are PR208, PR432 and PR431, PR207 MEL-NRT return (HND also possible but 6h layover instead of 3-4)
  • According to FlightAware the aircraft on all the above flights are A330 widebody jets
  • You get 2 x checked bags (includes skis) and whilst the weight is not specified 20-23kg a reasonable assumption one thinks
  • Timing not great (have to waste a Sat/Sun getting to/from Japan, return to MEL 4am)
  • Safety record is good
So all up it could be worth wasting an extra 6h each way, slumming in MNL and warm beer to save $700 or travel for approx half the cost of the JAL flights.
Not really connected but I have booked PAL to fly to Europe in January.
All reports about them are good enough for me to save $
 
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So... trying to seriously consider flying Philippines vs JAL. Obviously JAL the benchmark - dat 787 with only 8 across economy + 10h from MEL.

But is it worth a $700 premium. My findings:
  • Flights are PR208, PR432 and PR431, PR207 MEL-NRT return (HND also possible but 6h layover instead of 3-4)
  • According to FlightAware the aircraft on all the above flights are A330 widebody jets
  • You get 2 x checked bags (includes skis) and whilst the weight is not specified 20-23kg a reasonable assumption one thinks
  • Timing not great (have to waste a Sat/Sun getting to/from Japan, return to MEL 4am)
  • Safety record is good
So all up it could be worth wasting an extra 6h each way, slumming in MNL and warm beer to save $700 or travel for approx half the cost of the JAL flights.
Yeah the A321 neo is Ex Sydney and Brisbane. To Haneda and CTS.
 

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Ski bag weight is added into your checkin weight . I didn't read the rules properly ( you had to click through 2 links ) and was charged $450 to take my surfboard bag to Bali .
We have selected dedicated baggage weight for each flight, then added the oversize charge for each flight for a bag, then just added our normal additional luggage on top. But this process isnt clear as it could be regarding oversize items.
 
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So... trying to seriously consider flying Philippines vs JAL. Obviously JAL the benchmark - dat 787 with only 8 across economy + 10h from MEL.

But is it worth a $700 premium. My findings:
  • Flights are PR208, PR432 and PR431, PR207 MEL-NRT return (HND also possible but 6h layover instead of 3-4)
  • According to FlightAware the aircraft on all the above flights are A330 widebody jets
  • You get 2 x checked bags (includes skis) and whilst the weight is not specified 20-23kg a reasonable assumption one thinks
  • Timing not great (have to waste a Sat/Sun getting to/from Japan, return to MEL 4am)
  • Safety record is good
So all up it could be worth wasting an extra 6h each way, slumming in MNL and warm beer to save $700 or travel for approx half the cost of the JAL flights.
Update: Just scored MEL-NRT for $800 return. JAL. Glad I waited... Guessing trade must be slow after mid Jan.
Get on it!
 
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