Bye
Seems like I wont make the two decades on the forum....
Bye
Seems like I wont make the two decades on the forum....
I think you should consider some honorary memberships for long term members with over 5000 posts who don't post much any more. I don't think they stood be discouraged from dropping in occasionally
How do sites like whirlpool etc survive? IDK
Sailing Anarchy does a very good job of driving revenue from what is a very unique, but similar user profile to ski.com users. In fact the site owners do reasonably well by all accounts, BUT it is a worldwide community. i.e.: better numbers for the advertisers.
Pay $33 a year or @JoeKing gets your personal details, memberships to soar!Any decision yet on my suggestion for personal ads/singles meetup?
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Seems a bit strange the more you post, and the more you contribute, the more it costs you. Is that an incentive for the guys who post up all the informative posts (like in travel threads and weather) to continue to share their information/experiences? I dunno, as a guy with around 60k posts, some of them informative, I feel a little bummed some dude can come on and read all of my information for nothing while I am paying to provide that information. There's plenty of people in the Japan threads for example that come on as newbies and the long-time posters give them buckets of information, basically organise their trips for them, and they are the ones who will pay for it? Hmm.
Seems a bit strange the more you post, and the more you contribute, the more it costs you.
People will be able to ask 1000 free questions, quit, then ask another 1000 free questionsThe problem is that the people with very low or no posts wont pay, start charging people to ask a question and it would be good night to the ski.com.au forums. It doesn't seem fair but I'm not sure there is any other option (Other then not charging).
However I do object to paying for a service that permits certain types of behavior. The forum has a way to go to addressing the random and unprovoked attacks that have seen a number of my favorite posters disappear over the years.
I do - but I just don't pay for anything on the interwebs of this nature. While I have been around for a while the concept of paid access just doesn't work with me - not because I cant afford it just because it is something that doesn't resonate with me. I also feel it may alter the dynamics of the interactions on the forum.Well it's disappointing that you Louie are the first to announce that $33 per annum either hurts your pocket - or - you conscientiously object to fee-based online services.
But there you have it.
I'm completely expecting many to have this kind of response and whilst disappointing - it's simply too bad.
You, of all members, completely understands what's going on with online trends - these forums, this audience, this content - it does not scale to what is now required to enable a 100% advertising supported model.
There are plenty of tech product forums where you can read for free but have to subscribe to post. I can see parallels with the travel forums here. If people want good advice on ski holidays they may well be prepared to pay a small subscription.The problem is that the people with very low or no posts wont pay, start charging people to ask a question and it would be good night to the ski.com.au forums. It doesn't seem fair but I'm not sure there is any other option (Other then not charging).
I'm down for $11. Funny how we're so conditioned to free online services, we'll spend that much on coffee and brekky without even thinking, but for an app or a website account it's ooh ahh I don't know about that. 33 bucks?
I do - but I just don't pay for anything on the interwebs of this nature. While I have been around for a while the concept of paid access just doesn't work with me - not because I cant afford it just because it is something that doesn't resonate with me. I also feel it may alter the dynamics of the interactions on the forum.
I get that you need to make money but to be honest after 2+ decades on the coal face of technology I can't see a business model that could work in monetizing the types of interactions on this site. I wish you luck in your attempts to do so though.
So I have 4,907 posts according to my profile, I will pay $11p/a, and then when I hit 5,000 $33p/a. But if you are a new member you are free til your #1,000 post - am I reading this right?
There are plenty of tech product forums where you can read for free but have to subscribe to post. I can see parallels with the travel forums here. If people want good advice on ski holidays they may well be prepared to pay a small subscription.
Not particularly advocating that, just looking at the logic
I do - but I just don't pay for anything on the interwebs of this nature. While I have been around for a while the concept of paid access just doesn't work with me - not because I cant afford it just because it is something that doesn't resonate with me. I also feel it may alter the dynamics of the interactions on the forum.
I get that you need to make money but to be honest after 2+ decades on the coal face of technology I can't see a business model that could work in monetizing the types of interactions on this site. I wish you luck in your attempts to do so though.
.....................Anyone who participates in snow sport and objects to max $33 per annum??... well... what can you say - there you have it.
(But wordpress? Really?)
I get where you are coming from, but in my experience I found this site looking for an answer to a question, which I found without joining, just reading, a year or so past and i finally had a question I couldn't find already answered so I joined and asked it. Regardless though I kept watching the site even when i had no questions and just started posting to join in other discussions.My issue is not with paying $33/pa. It's nothing I cant even get in the gate at Buller for that much. My issue is that the people with the knowledge are being charged while the people who digest and use that knowledge get to do so for free. There's probably a reason why they charge the students and pay the teacher in a classroom.
That is a fallacious argument. Linking what I pay for snowsports to what I access on the internet is not logical.
What Louie said about the concept of paid access on the internet / and the contribution aspect by forum members are more what are going to provide the aggravation.
Like all commercial transactions, it will come down to perceived value.
My issue is not with paying $33/pa. It's nothing I cant even get in the gate at Buller for that much. My issue is that the people with the knowledge are being charged while the people who digest and use that knowledge get to do so for free. There's probably a reason why they charge the students and pay the teacher in a classroom.
I have less than 3000 posts in 6 years and I don't think even 10% of those are either providing useful information or requesting it. If someone has amassed over 5000 posts surely the main reason they are doing this is for their own enjoyment, don't get me wrong this can include helping people, I quite enjoy being able to answer people's questions from time to time.
The only reason I didnt sign up to the season pass straight up, was because I was blocked by a paypal issue from a former employee, so had to wait until I got a new credit card that wasnt linked to my email which was linked to my employees paypal account that was probably linked to a Nigerian fortune. Fark I hate computers sometimes!