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Furano, Asahi Dake, Tomamu, Kamui & Tokachi 18/19

Discussion in 'Japan' started by telenomore, Aug 22, 2018.

  1. BoofHead

    BoofHead One of Us Ski Pass: Silver

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  2. Buzza8

    Buzza8 Early Days

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    Hey I’m heading to Furano with 3 mates from feb 12-26
    Basing ourselves in Furano and have a hire car. Was hoping for some intel on dos and donts - how long to ride at Furano and which other mountains to hit ? Tomamu maybe as well.
    And looking for a guide to do a trip to Asihadake as heard best you have one for this mountain
    can you hire avi gear etc as don’t have the gear and would prefer to hire than buy
    Hope this is in the right thread.
    Any help much appreciated
     
  3. Froff Life

    Froff Life A Local Ski Pass: Gold

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    How long Furano keeps you busy for will depend on the snow and your ability to access the back country.
    Also look at day tripping to Kamui and Sahoro if you're keen.

    For rentals of avi gear check out Furano Alpine Backcountry Rental Shop.

    Have you considered doing a days cat skiing? A couple of decent outfits are based near Furano.
     
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  5. Buzza8

    Buzza8 Early Days

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    Ok thanks - we have been riding for about 10 years so should be okay to access back country - have been doing Niseko gates for few years so asssume Furano similar ? Just don’t have avi gear and want it for back country to be safe . I’ve never worn helmet either and think it’s time for one too.

    Cat skiing for sure if no fresh daily when in Furano. Which outfit you recommend ?

    Would you recommend tomamu ?

    Thanks for help
     
  6. jjami15

    jjami15 First Runs

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    Heading to Tomamu on the 5th for a week with the family. Have seen that the majority of their runs aren’t open yet at the moment. 102cm at the top and 34cm at the base. How much is the usual for the majority of the the runs to be opened? I’m aware of the heavy snow coming Thursday through to Sunday so hoping that this will this get it done for the majority if not all.
     
  7. telenomore

    telenomore One of Us Ski Pass: Silver

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    Tomamu had a good week, close to 50cm at our place around 600m a few km from the resort so I'd say its all on. I'll be there Monday so will post an update.
     
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  8. telenomore

    telenomore One of Us Ski Pass: Silver

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    Yes to Tomamu and big yes to the BC there. Not super deep but very cold dry snow. The standout is the terrain, well spaced silver birch forests. Don't limit yourself to the sidecountry, also some great backcountry if you have the gear. My company (Alpine Backcountry) does both guiding and BC rentals in central Hokkaido (including Asahi Dake) so come and say hello, near the Kitanomine gondola at Furano resort.
     
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  9. Buzza8

    Buzza8 Early Days

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    Great - I’ll drop in and book in a day or two tour with you when I get to Furano on the 13th feb
    Let me know if need to pre book or just rock up . Maybe PM me
    Thanks again
    Adam
     
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    Hey @telenomore
    Without giving away your trade secrets, is it reasonably straight forward to ride lookers left out of bounds at Tomamu down to the road and walk back around to the resort? I've only been there with family and not my adventure crew to test out the wider terrain. Will be first time at Furuno from 22nd Feb with wheels.

    Thanks
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  11. shepski

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    If you're thinking of coming out where one of the old lifts is closed near the train station, you may be able to time it right and get the shuttle bus back that does the run between the hotels and the train station.
     
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    The lookers left out of bounds were supposed to be ski slopes. They cut trees to make ski slopes there, but before they installed lifts there, the bubble economy burst and they gave up expanding. Tomamu's blueprints back in late 80's and early 90's were crazy. I mean, they were planning to make more ski slopes, golf courses, orchards, a college, a football & baseball stadium, horseback riding courses, a huge shopping mall, etc both in the northern side and the southern side. Now they have CAT backcountry tours instead on Mt.Karifure, though. The map is the southern side, where Mt.Karifure is. If Japan's ongoing inbound tourism boom help Tomamu to expand, the lookers left terrain will open at first;)
    [​IMG]
     
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  13. telenomore

    telenomore One of Us Ski Pass: Silver

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    Yeah that is good option. We use a vehicle pick up. In fact did it a couple of days ago and Tomamu on some slopes has good cover, although Tomamu in exposed areas still little light on, but that could change in the next few days.
     
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    Where's a good place to get my skis waxed around Furano ?
     
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    oreo One of Us Ski Pass: Gold

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    As stated, yes you can do this. Without a car, it’s easier (and usually a better run as well!) to skin up the zig zag cut ‘road’ towards the top of the lower quad chair. It’s about 30minutes. You should be able to see this clearly on the sat image/google earth.
     
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    Find @telenomore s shop for advice & other useful stuff like guides.
     
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    I am heading to Furano with some mates from 16 to 24 February. We are basing ourselves at Furano at the North Country Inn. The plan is for 4 or 5 days at Furano with inbounds and slackcountry skiing.

    We have a guided day trip to Asahidake locked in with Whiteroom Tours and then we are also looking to do a day trip to Tomamu and potentially Kamui. Apparently we can book a bus to Tomamu at the Tourist information centre at Kitanomine. Has anyone used this service? If so what is it like?
     
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    Harro's mob ???

    FURANO
    HARRO'S SNOWSPORTS

    1974-4 Kitanomine-Cho,
    Furano Shi
    Hokkaido Japan 076-0034

    Phone - Local: 080 2874 6005
    International: (+81) 80 2874 6005
    Japanese mobile: 0806 065 6806

    I'll be navigating by phone number ;)
     
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    skifree grey Moderator Ski Pass: Gold

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    No, different, right hand side on the way down to the village proper from the bottom of the ski field. This will make sense when you are there.
     
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    Does not show up on GMaps but I think it is roughly opposite the Hotel Bell Hills.
     
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    So don't park at the noodle shop ! Should be walking distance from where we are staying :)
     
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    If you need cheap 2nd hand ski gear, I've been informed that this place is the goods. Not for me mind you ;)
     
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  25. telenomore

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    Yeah we are regulars. Picked up some great bargains there. Its 5-10 minutes walk from Asahikawa Station which is about 1 hour from Furano Station. However most ski gear is more carve/old style resort and I don't recall seeing any powder skis there. A reflection of changing times in the Japanese local ski industry. Back in July I found a pair of Bontrager carbon road cycle shoes on the shelf. looking underneath the shoes there was very little wear marks on the cleats, maybe used a few times. Price was ¥5000. New they are more likely ¥30,000 retail. 1 pair and they happened to be my size! That is the sort of surprise bargain you can find there. Happy shopping.
     
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  26. telenomore

    telenomore One of Us Ski Pass: Silver

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    Its a serious issue. Never mix your noodles with your backcountry! Although for someone looking for a great traditional Sobaya, they are excellent, and then you can park there.
     
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    The only bus I know about heads over to Tomamu in the late afternoon. If there's one that heads over in the morning from Furano I'd like to know about it as well. @telenomore got any ideas ?

    This is the only bus service I know of - https://www.access-n.jp/winter2018/en/skibus/detail/furano_tomamu.html#000051
     
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    The bus listed on the above link is the only daily scheduled bus and only departs in the afternoon. In the past, the info centre (2 locations, the base of the Kitanomine Gondola and in the new office in the San Ban Kan building a few minutes walk from the station) have booked Hokkaido Resort Liner on behalf of customers so they may also be doing it for this service. You may have also mistaken the day tour bus services, which take skiers in the morning to either Tomamu or Kamui, and then back in the evening after a full days skiing, on different days of the week, and are a specific ski tour bus, no guide, just transfer to and from, with I think minimum numbers so you have to check at the info centre on which days they go to which location and what the minimum numbers are. Here is link to Furano Tourism, they do a great job and should be able to bring you up to date on all of this. http://www.furanotourism.com/en/ Ask them questions as they will answer. John. an American, is at the desk at Kitanomine and speaks Japanese so that would be the best place to go for information and/or bookings.
     
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    Another quick question. What's the best route to take in winter when driving from Tomamu to Furano ?
     
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    Pretty similar but via Shimukappu usually works out a bit longer. Distance wise via Shimukappu it is about 10k longer and you have the expressway fee back up to Tomamu. You also have Kanayama pass which can really slow you down and counteract the speed advantage of 24 km on the expressway from Shimukappu to Tomamu.
     
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  35. DK2020

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    Hi all, newbie here and Hokkaido too.
    Does anyone have insight around the best location to stay in central Hokkaido? Looking at potentially a day trip to Asahidake and Furano. Unsure if Asahikawa or Furano is going to be a better location to stay. Will have a hire car and will be coming from Moiwa. Thanks in advance
     
  36. grantn

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    I would recommend Furano. It's the most Central option in central Hokkaido and gives you day trip options.
     
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    Furano will be the better base as you can ski Furano itself. If you have car you can day trip to Tomamu, Asahidake & Tokachi easily. As you have a car it would be worth splitting Furano & Asahikawa as Asahikawa also gives you easy access to Kamui and also Asahidake.
     
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    Also @DK2020 drop by the living legend artist studio thingy between Furano & Ashidake,

    Well worth an hour or so. There is also a cafe in the site.
     
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    I have been advised by Whiteroom tours that these day trip buses operate as follows:
    Day trip - Furano to Tomamu (leave in the morning and return after a day of skiing) - Tuesdays and Thursdays
    Day trip - Furano to Kamui (leave in the morning and return after a day of skiing) - Wednesdays.
     
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    First morning in Tomamu, should be a fun day exploring!

     
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    In transit, will be there this arvo.
     
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    The Nordic trails at Furano over the past few days, perfectly groomed, about 10 minutes walk from the Kitanomine gondola.
     
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    Picture of you in Lycra or it didn't happen :p
     
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    Didnt realise that was your shop, i possibly spoke to ya last season, came in looking for a part for my skiboot buckle which had decided to explode on its 3rd or 4th day of use!
     
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    Too b...dy cold for Lycra.
     
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    You own a ski shop, what's with the ancient skis?
     
  48. telenomore

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    Old favorite, Peltonen Zeta. The kick pattern looks and feels like nothing more than a lightly buffed normal base. Like it has been created with a light rub of fine grained sandpaper, but works really well in dry snow. Means really good glide compared to a step pattern base and I'm too lazy to get back into kick waxes, although most days here during mid winter, blue stick wax would do the job, and on many occasions, green.
     
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    First day on snow for 2019 at Tomamu.
    Some drama in the morning but a great first day despite below. I always love exploring a new place.
    Drama involved me ripping the crap out of my base on second run
    Kicking myself for not packing some ptex, although this repair will require a bit more than some candle action.
    No repair option at all in Tomamu so ponied up for 5 days rental. Ouch!! However, glass half full, I really enjoyed skiing my brand new Fischer Ranger 98’s. I may swap them out and try the 108s as well even though I don’t need another pair in the 105-110 range.
    Looking at options for a Furano repair now. @telenomore PM sent.

     
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    Jebus :eek: what did you run over, a star picket o_O
     
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