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Question Getting started in the backcountry

Discussion in 'Backcountry' started by irrgent, May 10, 2020.

  1. climberman

    climberman CloudRide1000 Legend Ski Pass: Gold

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    Snap!!
     
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  2. skifree

    skifree A disciple of the blessed avi giraffe Moderator Ski Pass: Gold

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    Paddy’s used to stock, get them in for me.
     
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  3. sidetrack

    sidetrack One of Us

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    They seem to be available again. Bruce has them as well as Dougie at EMC
     
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  4. DPS Driver

    DPS Driver One of Us

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    Yes but quite some time ago. The new skins are supposed to be decent.
     
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  5. Snow Blowey

    Snow Blowey Old n' Crusty Ski Pass: Gold

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    Just saw he thread title and thought:

    Just start with a little kiss boy! Don't go straight in for the clitoris.
     
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  6. Untele-whippet

    Untele-whippet beard stroker Ski Pass: Gold

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    But I thought you advocated skating skis and trangias skipping down The Crags bro!
    So disappoint!
     
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  7. Andy W

    Andy W First Runs

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    Whats the best route up to mt Tate please,for a first timer? Have done a bit of back country, just not there.Cheers.
     
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  8. telecrag

    telecrag Old n' Crusty Ski Pass: Gold

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    I go across the dam, then the icy slope of death, down to the little footbridge over the creek, then straight up Gills Knob, and over to Tate.
     
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  9. Chaeron

    Chaeron A Local Ski Pass: Gold

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    I ain’t @VSG, but a map helps the conversation.

     
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  10. telecrag

    telecrag Old n' Crusty Ski Pass: Gold

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    It might be easier to go across the dam, then up that ridge, across Stephenwhatsits Pass to Tate? I have never gone that way, though I have gone up there.
     
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  11. piolet

    piolet Better make it three Ski Pass: Gold

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    Longer
    Your way.
     
  12. Interruptedbyfireworks

    Interruptedbyfireworks One of Us Ski Pass: Silver

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    I know this year isn't a normal year, but do they normally clear the road to Guthega in winter? Or just say good luck hope you have a 4WD or snow chains
     
  13. telecrag

    telecrag Old n' Crusty Ski Pass: Gold

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    The road is dirt (past a point), so slipperier than the other access. It is cleared normally, I wouldn't try it on a snow day unless you are very comfortable driving in snow.
     
  14. Fozzie Bear

    Fozzie Bear One of Us Ski Pass: Gold

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    Did it with ladder chains in my old Honda Civic in early 1980's. Chains on at Sawpit. Skiing was great.
     
  15. Ubiquitous Steve

    Ubiquitous Steve A Local Ski Pass: Gold

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    I am pretty sure they clear the Guthega road routinely into Guthega Village and down to the Power Station too.
     
  16. Interruptedbyfireworks

    Interruptedbyfireworks One of Us Ski Pass: Silver

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    Sweet thanks. I drove on it in August last year, it was cleared then but I didn't know if that was a regular thing. I don't think I'd be keen to drive on it uncleared.

    (I get scared just driving to Perisher on snow days LOL)
     
  17. climberman

    climberman CloudRide1000 Legend Ski Pass: Gold

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    It is a lovely wander with great views, but longer than your described way.
     
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  18. Jacko4650

    Jacko4650 One of Us Ski Pass: Silver

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    99% of the time the road is very good and strangely enough, safer to drive on once you hit dirt past the Guthega Power Station as there is normally grit mixed in with the snow. Chains would rarely be required, but would suffice on most days . . . . . wait, what am I saying. The road is terrible; don't go there; parking is awful but if you do, take a shovel :
     
  19. nfip

    nfip Cold n' Rusty Ski Pass: Gold

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    This ^.
    make a note of where the bridge is for your return and easier to ski back down closer to the east ridge than Tate.
    if you end up further upstream coming home then best head up the west side to top of the trig and ski from there back down to the dam.
    IMO.
     
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    nfip Cold n' Rusty Ski Pass: Gold

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    yeah. don't park in the back rows if there's a storm with a bit of wind coming.
    if you do allow around 4 hours to dig car and an exit track.
     
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  21. Jacko4650

    Jacko4650 One of Us Ski Pass: Silver

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    Numpty question, so please excuse my ignorance? Does an avalanche beacon have a transmitter that goes to the rescue co-ordination centre via Sat just like a Personal Locator Beacon or EPIRB? ie: in addition to the transmit/receive function if you or ski buddy gets engulfed and buried by snow?
     
  22. Fozzie Bear

    Fozzie Bear One of Us Ski Pass: Gold

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    Negative.
     
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  23. Bloke

    Bloke One of Us Ski Pass: Gold

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    Otherwise there would be a lot of rescue teams dispatched to the areas outside lodges (and the beach)!
     
  24. dawooduck

    dawooduck relaxed and comfortable Ski Pass: Gold

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    We are doomed
     
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  25. Jacko4650

    Jacko4650 One of Us Ski Pass: Silver

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    Thanks. So that's another piece of equipment you might want to carry for safety reasons in the backcountry? A personal Locator Beacon. Bloody hell, it never ends!
     
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  26. Jacko4650

    Jacko4650 One of Us Ski Pass: Silver

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    What do people do outside lodges or on the beach to set off the emergency signal? I had an EPIRB when I was sailing offshore and it was not something you set off accidently.
     
  27. dawooduck

    dawooduck relaxed and comfortable Ski Pass: Gold

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    Perisher Road



    Guthega road

     
  28. Jacko4650

    Jacko4650 One of Us Ski Pass: Silver

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    And that's on a good day!
     
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  29. nfip

    nfip Cold n' Rusty Ski Pass: Gold

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    Avi beacon is not a PLB.
    It is a simple transceiver.
    With limited signal range.
    And we practice, practice,practice.
     
  30. Untele-whippet

    Untele-whippet beard stroker Ski Pass: Gold

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    People should always practice finding a buried beacon. Burying one on the beach or in the snow and then finding it quickly and efficiently is great practice for if the BC situation turns to doom but in a safe and beer friendly environment.
    The real trick is knowing where not to go and where to go to avoid avalanches.
    Most beacon searches in an avalanche are to find a corpse......
     
  31. Bloke

    Bloke One of Us Ski Pass: Gold

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    Yes Jacko wot these fellas said. I was just making a joke that a lot of use of avi beacons is for training/practicing :thumbs:
     
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    Fozzie Bear One of Us Ski Pass: Gold

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    Spot Messenger, InReach..... a couple of pretty good PLBs and satellite communicators around.
     
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    Bloke One of Us Ski Pass: Gold

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    PLB - cheapest life insurance going around LOL Mine is always in my backpack (although sadly my backpack is usually in the cupboard these days)
     
  34. telecrag

    telecrag Old n' Crusty Ski Pass: Gold

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    Am I the only one still carrying a flare gun, and pigeon?
     
  35. Untele-whippet

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    No bacon!
    Unresponsible.
     
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    chicski A Local Ski Pass: Gold

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    No giraffe? :eek:
     
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    telecrag Old n' Crusty Ski Pass: Gold

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    Problem is when I get the order wrong, and shoot down the pigeon with the flare.
     
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    Untele-whippet beard stroker Ski Pass: Gold

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    We’ve been here before!
    That’s why I suggested the pigeon holder to avoid a calamity.
     
  39. dawooduck

    dawooduck relaxed and comfortable Ski Pass: Gold

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    When all else fails, roast the pigeon with the flare gun for a hearty last supper
     
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    telecrag Old n' Crusty Ski Pass: Gold

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    I posted this photo a few years ago. I think if you asked a ski guide to name their "top 5 things not to do in the backcountry" one of them would be "don't stand on a cornice". In this particular case, it was the 1st blue day after a storm cycle that delivered maybe 50cm-ish (from memory) of fresh snow. :headbang:

     
  42. climberman

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    Bogong Part of the Furniture Ski Pass: Gold

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    This photo of the summit ridge dates from 1929 and is reproduced in a history of Mt Feathertop. So skiers have been doing this sort of thing for at least 91 years.
    Mt Feathertop has the highest body count of any mainland Australian mountain and looking at the photo, it's not hard to understand why.
     
  44. Fozzie Bear

    Fozzie Bear One of Us Ski Pass: Gold

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    Took a shed load of work to unbury that bloke at Blue Lake a few years back (Snow groomer from PB). Body recovered from under 10 metres of snow after cornice he was standing on collapsed.
     
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    Fozzie Bear One of Us Ski Pass: Gold

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    Never forget the safety bacon :nono:


    Or alpine avy giraffe.
     
  46. dawooduck

    dawooduck relaxed and comfortable Ski Pass: Gold

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    Not all cornice are created equal.
     
  47. Bloke

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    Too right. Blue lake equals mother of all snow build-ups hanging over flat run-out
     
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    nfip Cold n' Rusty Ski Pass: Gold

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    but some are more equal then others.
    like drivers,
    or carparking at Nuggets...
    or interschool parents....
     
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    nfip Cold n' Rusty Ski Pass: Gold

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