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Gnarliest BC lines

Discussion in 'Backcountry' started by DJM, Mar 28, 2009.

  1. DJM

    DJM One of Us Ski Pass: Gold

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    Every now and then I hear rumours about people skiing some seriously steep and commiting lines in the backcountry.

    I'm interested in finding out what has actually been skied.

    eg. Heard a few lads from around here skied some insane lines on the Crags. (A few pics of the lines surfaced around the traps).

    So what has been done around your local area (Oz for now) that has blown your concept of what was possible?
     
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    Snow Blowey Old n' Crusty Ski Pass: Gold

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    wish i could add something here dibble but i'm to soft to go near that stuff.

    Bush patrol ended up in a pretty hairy spot back in 07. A rock lined chute no wider than 2 metres through the rocks above Walters Gully. Only relatively short but put the wind up him big time. Luckily he warned me away from it before i was committed. He had warn away all the snow pack to rock through the tightest pinch.

    My picks in NSW would be:

    * Anything down the Southern side of the crags;

    *Stuff off Ant Ridge and anything off The Awesome Spur. These runs would have a particularly ordinary exit.

    The Red Zones here:
    [​IMG]

    *Then there is an absolute ripper line down the north face of the crags that involves a very steep entry through rocky crags. Just looking down that one scares me. ANd the lower part looks like it slides a fair bit.

    [​IMG]

    *The north facing slopes off Sentinel Ridge (from the knoll down to Strzelecki Creek). The bits closer to the Sentinel aren't very hard but below the knoll its pretty gnarly and needs pretty good cover to be skiable.

    This:

    [​IMG]
     
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  3. VSG

    VSG Crayon Master Moderator

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    entry into Leatherbarrel creek nsw from Central Ramsead.. Tom Groggin station in the far distance..


    [​IMG]

    Another view. Peak 1970 in the middle distance. Nice lines.

    [​IMG]
     
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  4. VSG

    VSG Crayon Master Moderator

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    [​IMG]
     
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  5. DJM

    DJM One of Us Ski Pass: Gold

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    Looking at those first pics SB makes you realise how much time you need to ski everything.

    The A line has been done from what I hear (pic borrowed from biglines.com).

    The B line looks a little more doable, although slightly lower elevation requires a good dump.

    [​IMG]


    VSG, that first shot runs you down into the golden gully which is a nice run. The run off The central Ramshead is another good looking run with a few options depending on the season.
    If this is the spot you are thinking it looks awesome. Is it the actual colouir as mentioned in Alan E.J.Andrews Western faces book?

    [​IMG]

    Peak 1977 has some good looking lines the further skiiers right of the summit you head.

    [​IMG]

    [​IMG]
     
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  6. DJM

    DJM One of Us Ski Pass: Gold

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    Did you guys get a chance to to scope this one before dropping in?
     
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    Snow Blowey Old n' Crusty Ski Pass: Gold

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    We though we were heading south of the rocks. It's hard to tell where you are when you're dropping west of the ridgeline.

    This is Mark about the get stuck in the rocks. No response on the radio for a good few minutes. Didn't know if he was dead or just making sure he tracked out the lower valley on his own. Was about to drop in myself when he got back on the radio. Seemed he was a little stuck when i tried to call and then had to compose himself after straight lining the narrowest part of the chute. Luckily i always carry a dunny roll!

    http://ozbc.net/actiongallery/content/bin/images/large/IMG_9035aa.jpg

    Anything on the west side of Twynam West Spur looks scary because the runs have no defined end. The valley below continues way below the snow line.
     
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  8. VSG

    VSG Crayon Master Moderator

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    Had a go at colour correcting the long shot of 1970. [​IMG] Impressive line down the face... [​IMG]

     
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    VSG Crayon Master Moderator

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    [​IMG]
     
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    Some things down the rocky bulges of Cairn Gully are gnar...
     
  11. DJM

    DJM One of Us Ski Pass: Gold

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    Thanks for the colour correction VSG. A bit more work for you here [​IMG]

    That first shot was taken by someone else on the same day I rode it but the line you suggested was actual this. The hard lines are further over still.

    [​IMG]

    Yeah MBK, I'd like to see some of that area as I haven't been there yet
     
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    DJM One of Us Ski Pass: Gold

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    Thanks mr.

    Ive been looking at that shot of Cradle Mt and wondering if a quick flight down after a good dump is worthwhile. Be good to hear if anyone from here has scoped the area in winter?
     
  14. Snow Blowey

    Snow Blowey Old n' Crusty Ski Pass: Gold

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    I attempted to ski off the peak of 1977. This was the view from the top:

    [​IMG]

    Was a great pow day but the upper 20m of the slope were sketchy wind scoured ice. After attempting a couple of turns i side slipped my way down the icy section with my tail between my legs. Down lower was awesome.
     
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    Snow Blowey Old n' Crusty Ski Pass: Gold

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  16. DJM

    DJM One of Us Ski Pass: Gold

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    I had the same problem and nearly fell on my second or third turn. I have a bad habit of falling at the top of most steep runs [​IMG]
     
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    VSG Crayon Master Moderator

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    Trying to work out his lines, based on other pics. He says the chutes are vis from the Dove Lake carpark... thus that is what I've taken. Cannot see his chute(s) ?
    In any case, they look un skiable.

    Edit: his picture is the 'back' face of Cradle...
    [​IMG]
     
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  18. Cam Walker

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    absolutely! Have been in at Cradle after a big dump of snow and its incredible. Often when there is big snow there is big wind so it can be icy and also patchy. I skied on Cradle once when the wind had blown the fresh snow into weird mogul type humps and it was amazing but scarey when you hit a 'thin' patch.
    Definitely recommend checking things before actually skiing them.
    In good conditions you can ski almost down to waterfall valley hut, then walk back up to snowline in morning, so a good area if you have a few days
     
  19. Snow Blowey

    Snow Blowey Old n' Crusty Ski Pass: Gold

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    Tell me about it. Everything looks pretty easy on the internet!!

    Gets a bit more difficult when there are real world consequences.

    Since posting those photos (above) last night i've been thinking about trying the crags north face chute and a couple of the others. I'm sure when i'm standing out there in a few months time I'll back away - just like i've done before.
     
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  20. VSG

    VSG Crayon Master Moderator

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    now it is all clear... his chutes clearly vis here.

    [​IMG]
     
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    i put some info up on the backcountry wiki on cradle mtn
    http://wikiski.com/wiki/index.php/Cradle_Mountain

    Have been quite obsessed with Tas backcountry the last few years. Cradle is relatively easy to get into, as well as being fantastic. The Ducane
    Range and surrounding area is still the most incredible backcountry i have been into in winter ... there are some links to photos at the end of the Cradl mtn/ lake st claire section
     
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  22. DJM

    DJM One of Us Ski Pass: Gold

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    Thanks Cam, I'll have to do a bit more homework on the area and although it would be a mission from sydney could be worth it. Love to see some more pics of the chutes if you get out that way this year [​IMG]
     
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    Dibble, if your work/life is flexible enough, i would definitely suggest jumping on a plane and getting to Cradle when there has been a huge dump of snow. Feel free to send me a PM if you need further details, i don't have many photos, but have skied around the back of the mountain (overlooking Scot Kilvert hut) - there is some nice stuff in there as well.
    Just got back from a traverse of Mt Gould - the Minotaur - Guardians in southern end of the park - i think that's the destination for this winter. Was out on Castle Crag/ Mt Massif last winter - awesome country but the walk in is a shocker!
     
  24. Toddo

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    is 1970/1977 twin humps? i rode that early last year with not too much cover, still some good lines, just had to dodge shark fins. killer hike straight back up ramshead though, next time will hike up the creek for sure.
     
  25. DJM

    DJM One of Us Ski Pass: Gold

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    Thanks Cam, will do. Be warned.....Im a snowboarder.

    Yes Toddo 1970/77 twin humps is the same. Early season always makes it harder for sure. First time down the Corrie with K10 was scary stuff, Icy and rocky. Came home talking it up, then realized next time it was a blue run with powder all the way.
     
  26. DJM

    DJM One of Us Ski Pass: Gold

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    No you won't, you'll go.
     
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    Are you referring to this?:

    I looked down that. Then I turned around and skiied the nice slope to the left of your red arrow instead. Looking forward to backing away from it again in August. [​IMG]
     
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  28. Snow Blowey

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    [​IMG]
     
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  29. telecrag

    telecrag Old n' Crusty Ski Pass: Gold

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    Ive not yet backed away if someone is watching, so Dibble you will have to film me doing something stupid this season. Once I was asked "what if you lose an edge?". The possibility does not exist in my mind, even though it has happened before. One day my pride will be my end, or at least make me look really stupid.

    Anyone done any of the lines through the rocks off that peak next to Townsend (Abbots?) into Albina? Some of that looks like fun.
     
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    Yeah, ages ago. Lots of fun, short sharp shocks, to coin a phrase. They hold fluff.
     
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  31. Graeme

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    I've had a look at that from the top too - and seen the line from Jagungal which it face directly + on aerial photos. The main chute looks great once you get into it, straight as a die - but mere mortals might want a rope to get into it (pickets? snow bollard?), and to ensure safe exit.
     
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    climberman CloudRide1000 Legend Ski Pass: Gold

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    OK, now you buggers have set a challenge.
     
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    Heres the vid of Dibble skiing the line on the Humps just before I took the photo below

    Its looks crap as it was taken on a Nokia N80
    I also had trouble with the edit
    Boris Graffiti and ProDAD Vita scene are responsilbe

    HUMPS VID

    [​IMG]
     
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  34. DJM

    DJM One of Us Ski Pass: Gold

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    Skiers left of the bulge looks manageable but the right.....mmmmm

    This threads gonna cause some interesting video footage this year.

    K10......... LOL....That was a piece of snow rolling down the hill....
     
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    VSG Crayon Master Moderator

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    Crap is the word. But, we get the idea. Cheers!
     
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  36. DJM

    DJM One of Us Ski Pass: Gold

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    Has anyone scoped the width of the pinch on the SW sentinel chute?
     
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    Snow Blowey Old n' Crusty Ski Pass: Gold

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    from above last year. Looks passable.

    [​IMG]
     
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    wat about vic, surely feathertop has some gnarly rated stuff specialy if you include the cornice navigation
     
  39. VSG

    VSG Crayon Master Moderator

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    back to the humps, aka Peak 1970.

    Note the altitude in the right hand side, or metres down the very bottom right corner...

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DY0BpVYZn2g (click the HQ button bottom right of screen) [​IMG]
     
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  40. K10

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    Nice flying VSG...except for the bumpy landing on the golf course [​IMG]
    Very realistic terrain features and amazing detail especially the SE Ridge and Coota and the Ramsheads but I didnt see the "litte red box" below the lake.
     
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  41. VSG

    VSG Crayon Master Moderator

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    No. I was looking for the Coota hut too... But you know....

    [​IMG]
     
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    K10 Hard Yards

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    Yeah..When ya got bad footage theres nothin ya can do about it
    My new N95 takes fairly good quality vids(640 x 480 @ 30fps) example = "High Noon" Nokia N95 27MB

    This year when Dibble and I do our big gnarly lines I am acually going to ski for a change (I'm always chickening out....oh I mean doing important and creative filming)

    We may have upto 3 dedicated (non-skiing) camera people at our disposal over this season
    If we do something speccy I want to get proper DVD like video from different angles not the crap I produce
     
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    telecrag Old n' Crusty Ski Pass: Gold

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    You better not be counting me as one of those 3, although I may go a helmet cam, gonna test a real one at the Mont this W/E, if its any good Ill buy one, about a grand. I am fully gearing up to get fully sic and gnarly, stoked on steep, chute me up baby.
     
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    Peak 1970 has that real outlier sense to it, a bit like Sentinel.

    Love the whole area. Must ski it one day. Only walked it.
     
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    piolet Better make it three Ski Pass: Gold

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    SCHA-WING!!!

    i knew i wanted to check this out for good reason
     
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    VSG Crayon Master Moderator

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    A bit of orientation, for those less familiar...

    Especially Victorians, whose mountains, whilst attractive in many respects, are just vertically challenged. [​IMG]

    [​IMG]
     
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    No dude... you will be skiing with us of course....We need at least 2 helmet cams ( me and you)
    We could have Mrs Dibble and My Bro-in-law (skier and pro camerman) and Dibbleses Bro's Mate (mountaineer)
    All three have some basic experience in both snow and video etc
    So we position them at key viewing angles say 1 up 1 down and 1 across

    We just need someone with a helicopter for that big budget look
     
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    VSG Crayon Master Moderator

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    Heli on these forums has been flying around the Thredbo area... just talk to him.

    Pity operating a chopper on the main range is not lawful, in NSW and the KNP.

    [​IMG]
     
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    Or a saving grace, rather than a pity.
     
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    My response was a little TIC, regarding K10's proposal to chopper in to the Sentinel. [​IMG]
     
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