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Discussion in 'Thredbo' started by Bluebird Snowbird, Feb 25, 2018.
Some much needed good news. It looks like they are starting to install the cable today.
that might be the lightweight cable they use to pull the main haul rope with.
I think it is.
Always wanted to be around when they splice one of those cables. That would be a job. Wonder how many people in the world are qualified 'master splicers' for something like that?
A few years ago when the International at Falls Creek suffered a catastrophic failure, they had a new 2.7 km cable delivered from overseas and they had to fly splicers in from overseas too as there weren't enough capable splicers in Australia at the time.
Last time Crackenback cable was replaced the Splicer came from Austria!
I don't think there are any in AUS, I spoke to a euro a few years ago in the middle of the season at Charlottes, who had been flown over for a resplice
I am so looking forward to not being able to ride in it this season.
If we were going to see a new lift DA, that may not happen any more. Event will be losing ridiculous amounts between the Thredbo bushfire shutdown, and now the coronavirus shutting pretty much every sector they operate in (cinemas, hotels, ski resort). While the government will help with their stimulus package for businesses who lose 30% or more of their earnings, its likely that the recent losses will result in future lift DAs being postponed. This new gondola may be the only new lift we get for a few years longer
Events have opened up all their hotels for mandatory isolation of returning australian tourists. They will very much be in the good books with the government.
It could be a good time to get some capital works done without interfering with income - if they can time it right.
Or at least get all the crappy paperwork done while working from home.
I just got back, can I go stay in Thredbo for 6 months please?
City Hotels only. Sorry.
Actually I have been here all along then!
Yep, your stuck in the snow for winter. Tough gig.
Oh wow, that is going to upset somebody.
the self proclaimed mayor of the place.
It's not a CASA thing, just no one interested in owning and operating them. The aircraft themselves can be certified under a restricted category if ex military or if you could get a new build one and Sikorsky hold the right FAA approval could get it certified under FAR part 29. However Sikorsky are not interested in pursuing a civil Type Certificatefor the H60/S-70 variants
We've been using civilian helis (and possibly a few ex Russian military?) to place chairlift towers for many decades, so what's wrong with them, they seem to be able to install any tower at any location required.
(I think the first to use helis to place chairlift towers was the Blue Ribbon triple at Hotham in 1981?)
Nothing at all. Just pointing out it's not CASA that won't register them it is just that for the amount of work in Australia it isn't worth the effort to get a restricted type certificate and to then register on the Australian register, when there are companies in the US who have already gone through it and can then charter to operate in Australia under an authority to operate.
The tough part is getting ex military aircraft certified under civil regulations so they are eligble for a C of A and thus registration. Most military aircraft aren't built under the same design rules and even if they were, they are maintained and operated under different rules.
Technically not a chairlift, Summit T-bar at Baw Baw did. 78 or 79?
Helicopter ending up rushing my Dad to West Gippsland hospital after @djam had saved his life.
I saw a book, cannot remember the name exactly (perhaps the history of the USC lodge?) which has a photo of Tony Kewish hanging off the top tower of Blue Ribbon as they installed the cross head by chopper. @stansi would know for sure.
Snowgums Double was installed by helicopter, prior to Winter 1980. Here's a photo taken from the Thredbo website:
I didn't save his life. But did travel in the car with him from the chairlift bottom station, down to Tanjil Bren where
the helicopter could land, below the fog, the helicopter was at the top of the mountain.
That was 1979, around March-May, I have photos of the helicopter, it was a french Lama (SA 315B). It weighed
about a tonne and could lift about the same. On one tower we had to pump fuel out of the chopper, as it
couldn't lift the tower. These choppers hold records for maximum heights, ~12,500 metres odd, before the
jet flamed out :|
I have always been under the impression you cleared his airway of food so he could breath again, well there you go.
And next time I make you out to be a hero on Ski.com, will you just go with it!
@Bogong may have a interest in that photo.
Actually, looking at that photo Alleve posted above, that looks like the same chopper.
That year (1979) he was at Baw Baw twice, he island hopped to do a job in Tasmania and
came back, maybe just to pull the cable to the top.
Interesting bottom terminal skin. Looks very different to the normal UNI-G terminals that Doppelmayr usually use (such as the terminal skin they've got on the top-station).
To make us think of good times. Mid station today.
Nice pic. Official confirmation that the gondy goes under Gunbarrel
So is the midstation higher up than the old double chair Merritt's?
Everything looks so different when it's not covered in snow.
It's in the bit at the intersection of schuss and high noon. But on the high side to the north of high noon.
I always thought they'd put the big shed uphill of the cable path and kind of 'hide' it in the trees. That made so much sense to me. Guess I should've looked at the DA plans a little more closely.
I thought it was, so it's at the top of Friday flats near the magic carpet ride so it will probably be used by high nooners( going down to valley terminal) ,Friday flatters and dream runners going up to the cruiser.
The new mid-station is further up than the old mid-station, on the other side of High Noon. The new bottom station is 10m further back than the old bottom station, in the trees near Valley Terminal.
Orange = old mid-station
Pinks = new mid-station and carrier shed
Green = Sundowner
Blue = High Noon
Purple = Dream Run
Yellow = The Schuss
Black = Giddy Up
Probably used by no one this season
Well at least we'll have twice the depth in 2021 now!
Come on Untele! Time for some optimism.
Neighbour in Dept of Health keeps saying November
Maybe back to your teles for some skinning!
so is it too early to confirm/deny the rumour earlier in the thread that the schuss is finished as a ski run?
Why would it be finished as a ski run?
Fear of hitting a gondie?
It’s just another “gate”
A moving one!
Most low gondolas i've been on have skiing banned underneath them at some point or another.
The Gondolas don't travel that low. For the majority of the Schuss, the Gondolas are considerably higher than the chair was. The only exception to this is Tower 10, the Gunbarrel crossover, but even there the Gondolas aren't that much lower than the chair originally was, or the Gondolas are when they cross High Noon and the top of Sundance.
There's definitely still enough room to ski under them. The last few towers of the Cruiser are lower to the ground than Tower 10 is, and people can ski under them.
The only place I can think of that would cause problems is the mid-station. Its possible that the Gondolas don't gain height out of the mid-station fast enough (which I personally doubt), or that KT doesn't want skiers from the Schuss skiing into the area next to the mid-station where people will be taking off and putting on their skis.
I was being facetious.
Because it's crap.
not when theres nothing else open. while it wont be the same again, have had plenty of good days lapping schuss when everything else is on wind hold.
Would you lap it if anything else was open? Off fall line with commensurately ridiculous bumps interspersed with lift towers and rocks. Plus the across the river and into the trees* at the bottom.