Graupel or Sago

Arne

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Today we had alot of graupel but everyone I talked to called it sago. I even heard corn snow which it is not( that's spring snow having gone through multiple freeze/thaw cycles). I dont know where sago came from and its not a technical term for small hail/snow.
It's the same as every time it snows people call it powder when to me powder is something that plumes and fills the sky behind me when I ski.
I don't correct people but it annoys the sh?t out of me. I could go on sastrugi/coral, ice when it's only hard pack, etc...
I am clearly old fashioned but I hate losing these classic forms of terminologies.
Please help...
 

catzizme

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Today we had alot of graupel but everyone I talked to called it sago. I even heard corn snow which it is not( that's spring snow having gone through multiple freeze/thaw cycles). I dont know where sago came from and its not a technical term for small hail/snow.
It's the same as every time it snows people call it powder when to me powder is something that plumes and fills the sky behind me when I ski.
I don't correct people but it annoys the sh?t out of me. I could go on sastrugi/coral, ice when it's only hard pack, etc...
I am clearly old fashioned but I hate losing these classic forms of terminologies.
Please help...
I've also heard it called "snai" as in "snow hail", they were kiwis though =p
 
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teckel

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Today we had alot of graupel but everyone I talked to called it sago. I even heard corn snow which it is not( that's spring snow having gone through multiple freeze/thaw cycles). I dont know where sago came from and its not a technical term for small hail/snow.
It's the same as every time it snows people call it powder when to me powder is something that plumes and fills the sky behind me when I ski.
I don't correct people but it annoys the sh?t out of me. I could go on sastrugi/coral, ice when it's only hard pack, etc...
I am clearly old fashioned but I hate losing these classic forms of terminologies.
Please help...
It's been called 'sago' in Australia for at least 55 years. 'Graupel' is a germanic word. What's wrong with a long established Australian term? I'm old fashioned too, but I don't see why Aussies can't use an Aussie term. (Agree with you in regards to powder though)
 

Chaeron

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It's been called 'sago' in Australia for at least 55 years. 'Graupel' is a germanic word. What's wrong with a long established Australian term? I'm old fashioned too, but I don't see why Aussies can't use an Aussie term. (Agree with you in regards to powder though)
That’s outrageous. What audacity! Only the authentic terms rooted in well-established alpine culture have any credibility!

Whatever next. Do you propose we use machinery to move people up mountains or make snow?

Seriously, what is the world coming to - young folks nowadays! It is irresponsible young rebels like you that start the rot!
 

Telezacski

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Are sago and Graupel the same?

Graupel is opaque and forms where water freezes on snowflakes so ground level needs to be warm and atmosphere cold.

Sago is translucent soft hail and forms where snow melts (warm atmosphere) and cooler lower down. It is basically sleet.

I use the term sago for sleet on or above the snow line.
 
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Today we had alot of graupel but everyone I talked to called it sago. I even heard corn snow which it is not( that's spring snow having gone through multiple freeze/thaw cycles). I dont know where sago came from and its not a technical term for small hail/snow.
It's the same as every time it snows people call it powder when to me powder is something that plumes and fills the sky behind me when I ski.
I don't correct people but it annoys the sh?t out of me. I could go on sastrugi/coral, ice when it's only hard pack, etc...
I am clearly old fashioned but I hate losing these classic forms of terminologies.
Please help...
I use Graupel. And educated a bunch of students today, but also mentioned it could be referred to as sago.
Chairlift chats can sometimes be fun! How many different words for snow/types of snow can we think of…
 
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Today we had alot of graupel but everyone I talked to called it sago. I even heard corn snow which it is not( that's spring snow having gone through multiple freeze/thaw cycles). I dont know where sago came from and its not a technical term for small hail/snow.
It's the same as every time it snows people call it powder when to me powder is something that plumes and fills the sky behind me when I ski.
I don't correct people but it annoys the sh?t out of me. I could go on sastrugi/coral, ice when it's only hard pack, etc...
I am clearly old fashioned but I hate losing these classic forms of terminologies.
Please help...
If your going to have a rant about people using the correct terminology at least don't be wrong. Corn snow is the technical term for what you described.
 
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telecrag

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Are sago and Graupel the same?

Graupel is opaque and forms where water freezes on snowflakes so ground level needs to be warm and atmosphere cold.

Sago is translucent soft hail and forms where snow melts (warm atmosphere) and cooler lower down. It is basically sleet.

I use the term sago for sleet on or above the snow line.
Sago round, graupel not?

Also, word correct on a ski forum......

I don't mind a bit of butter (soft groomer), I like hoar too!
 

Annabuzzy

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Today we had alot of graupel but everyone I talked to called it sago. I even heard corn snow which it is not( that's spring snow having gone through multiple freeze/thaw cycles). I dont know where sago came from and its not a technical term for small hail/snow.
It's the same as every time it snows people call it powder when to me powder is something that plumes and fills the sky behind me when I ski.
I don't correct people but it annoys the sh?t out of me. I could go on sastrugi/coral, ice when it's only hard pack, etc...
I am clearly old fashioned but I hate losing these classic forms of terminologies.
Please help...
It’s been called sago as long as I’ve been skiing. And graupel, but everyone says sago. I say sago.
 
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