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Green season prep for the 2020 BC season

Discussion in 'Backcountry' started by Interruptedbyfireworks, Mar 3, 2020.

  1. nezumi

    nezumi One of Us Ski Pass: Silver

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    Broadly speaking for snowboarding, the only compatibility issues between boots and binding are size.

    There are a few niche options like Step Ons (raises hand) and for the more adventurous/masochistic (take your pick) out there, AT boots for hardboot splitboarding, but these are few and far between.

    The Burton Hitchhiker binding is, as far as I can recall, a rebranded Spark R&D binding with minimal input from Burton.
     
  2. Interruptedbyfireworks

    Interruptedbyfireworks One of Us Ski Pass: Silver

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    Yeah the Hitchhiker seems to be the Spark Arc footplate with Burton Highback and straps, but the Highback is a mens one so I'm leaning away from that now.

    I found Spark Surge womens specific that have a solid baseplate so they are heavier than the Arc baseplate, but stiffer and less likely to get trapped snow.

    Might do more thinking on the bindings and skins, but I think I will pull the trigger on the board though!
     
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  3. nezumi

    nezumi One of Us Ski Pass: Silver

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    If it's individual pricing rather than a package, that sounds like a pretty good price. I've been keeping an eye on the splitboarding second hand groups and had no luck there - there's not the volume in it (or the number of beginners giving it a go, then giving up).
     
  4. Interruptedbyfireworks

    Interruptedbyfireworks One of Us Ski Pass: Silver

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    Yeah they were all individual pieces, so I've gotten the board yay! So excited.

    I have been keeping an eye on second hand groups for a while but womens ones are few and far between (and I've got a small sized foot, so mens board are waaaaay too wide) plus I just wanted a shiny new one just because haha
     
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  5. skifree

    skifree A disciple of the blessed avi giraffe Moderator Ski Pass: Gold

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    :):thumbs:
     
  6. Interruptedbyfireworks

    Interruptedbyfireworks One of Us Ski Pass: Silver

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    Nearly ready for the upgrade from snow-shoes! I am equal parts scared and excited and have been watching youtube videos of how to put on and take off skins
     
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  7. chicski

    chicski A Local Ski Pass: Gold

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    We can learn together. Not sure if it will happen now but I had hoped to do a guided outing with Jen Milton to learn all that basic stuff. She works out of Thredbo. Wanna join me?
     
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  8. Interruptedbyfireworks

    Interruptedbyfireworks One of Us Ski Pass: Silver

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    Yes I would love to!
     
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    chicski A Local Ski Pass: Gold

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    Well let’s get through this crap and talk when it snows :)
     
  10. Interruptedbyfireworks

    Interruptedbyfireworks One of Us Ski Pass: Silver

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    Agreed :)
     
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  11. Untele-whippet

    Untele-whippet beard stroker Ski Pass: Gold

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    But you already know how to drink beer!
     
  12. chicski

    chicski A Local Ski Pass: Gold

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    That happens after doesn’t it?
     
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    climberman CloudRide1000 Legend Ski Pass: Gold

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    You will have a great time with Jen :)
     
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    Untele-whippet beard stroker Ski Pass: Gold

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    If you say so....
    Single malt moreso on the trot @telecrag
     
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    chicski A Local Ski Pass: Gold

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    Not getting some Tassie whiskey next week now either :cry:
     
  16. Untele-whippet

    Untele-whippet beard stroker Ski Pass: Gold

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  17. Interruptedbyfireworks

    Interruptedbyfireworks One of Us Ski Pass: Silver

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    I have some of my dads tassie wine and one of those platypus wine bladder things now - maybe that can do us in a pinch?
     
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  18. Mister Tee on XC Skis

    Mister Tee on XC Skis A Local Ski Pass: Silver

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    Fitting and removing kickers skins is an easy process. .Just find a spot out of the wind if possible to do it. Cut the cheat sheets to size at home . My skins are kept in the fridge until the season starts :) .
     
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  19. Gimp

    Gimp One of Us Ski Pass: Gold

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    Practice in front of a fan blowing on max
     
  20. Interruptedbyfireworks

    Interruptedbyfireworks One of Us Ski Pass: Silver

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    LOL
     
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    DPS Driver One of Us

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    Yes Skifree. Contour have split boards skins. Can purchase through Bruce at Wilderness or Rhythm pending stock.
     
  22. skifree

    skifree A disciple of the blessed avi giraffe Moderator Ski Pass: Gold

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    @Interruptedbyfireworks I suggest you pursue the Contour skin option based the above advice. When you get your nuu board drop by WS or Rhythm with it under your arm to work out the size and clips you will need. This process will show you also how to put the skins on and off.:)
     
  23. Interruptedbyfireworks

    Interruptedbyfireworks One of Us Ski Pass: Silver

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    Will check them out, thank you.

    I'm guessing that people must like the contour ones better than G3?

    From my brief internetting, it seems I'm going to have to be careful about what size I get since a 147cm splitboard is on the small end, and the Burton ones are listed as fitting boards 146cm+ but reviews aren't great for the 147cm board, specifically.
     
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    Interruptedbyfireworks One of Us Ski Pass: Silver

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    good idea, thank you
     
  25. skifree

    skifree A disciple of the blessed avi giraffe Moderator Ski Pass: Gold

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    You should be able to have them cut up in the shop to suit length and shape. Walk in with a 6 pack (and $ to pay for skins) and all will be sorted I'm sure.
     
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    DPS Driver One of Us

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    Not a problem.
     
  27. LMB

    LMB Old but definitely not Crusty! Ski Pass: Gold

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    I’m a novice splitter to be honest.
    But my splitboard is 6cm longer than my park/teaching board. (149 HelYes / 154 Jones Dreamcatcher). I’ve got a 154 All Mountain board (currently being used by a friend) and 156 powder board. It’s not all about the length, profile makes a difference too. However longer on a split makes sense when you’ll often be in powder or deeper snow out back.
     
  28. nezumi

    nezumi One of Us Ski Pass: Silver

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    That was something that was in my thinking but not expressed - the general advice around going a bit longer for a splitboard that I have seen has been predicated on the need for additional float in uncompacted snow - so it depends if a board is for us in Aus or OS.

    I've also been drawn into this by an advert in an Aus splitboard group for a nice looking setup, which has me pretty tempted.
     
  29. skifree

    skifree A disciple of the blessed avi giraffe Moderator Ski Pass: Gold

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    ROFLROFLROFL

    or perhaps I need to follow you.:)
     
  30. Interruptedbyfireworks

    Interruptedbyfireworks One of Us Ski Pass: Silver

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    Well this is for Aus not O/S so I'm very much setting my expectations low for powder and high for ice!
     
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    LMB Old but definitely not Crusty! Ski Pass: Gold

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    As long as you don’t follow PB.
    He likes to go places where the usual ending is uh-oh!!
    The dream catcher has good edges - can cope in ice also. I rode it for 5 days in resort in a Thredbo last season.
     
  32. Interruptedbyfireworks

    Interruptedbyfireworks One of Us Ski Pass: Silver

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    Look what arrived today!!! I’m in love :love:

     
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  34. nezumi

    nezumi One of Us Ski Pass: Silver

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    Woohoo!

    Hitchhikers, or another Spark binding?
     
  35. skifree

    skifree A disciple of the blessed avi giraffe Moderator Ski Pass: Gold

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    First to do is a write a loose parts list in permanent pen (paint not texta) on the board so you check everything on and off when you transition.

    Also organise a complete spare set of nuts, bolts & washers.

    Very serious about this.
     
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    Interruptedbyfireworks One of Us Ski Pass: Silver

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    Other spark binding - Surge women’s
     
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  37. Interruptedbyfireworks

    Interruptedbyfireworks One of Us Ski Pass: Silver

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    What do you mean by loose parts? Like the bindings and skins and stuff that comes off/on so I don’t leave anything behind?

    I can see why spares would be important. It was a bit fiddly getting everything setup and aligned, especially the pucks and getting the screws flush. Transitioning a bit easier now but still a bit stiff coz it’s all new. My precious office worker hands are stinging already ha
     
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    skifree A disciple of the blessed avi giraffe Moderator Ski Pass: Gold

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    You will drop & lose loose parts during transitions.
     
  39. Mister Tee on XC Skis

    Mister Tee on XC Skis A Local Ski Pass: Silver

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    That does not look shabby nor inexpensive .Only the one above will know if you will be permitted to use it this winter in Ozstriya .
     
  40. Interruptedbyfireworks

    Interruptedbyfireworks One of Us Ski Pass: Silver

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    I think the only loose parts are the bindings, and skins once I get them
     
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    Interruptedbyfireworks One of Us Ski Pass: Silver

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    Yes I am pretty happy with it all! The bindings were nearly as much as the board :eek:

    Obviously hoping to use it this season but even if not it’s brought me much joy already and I can see me doing lots of playing with it in my house to keep the stoke going
     
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    Interruptedbyfireworks One of Us Ski Pass: Silver

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    Probably not the best time to be spending $$$ on luxury items but yolo
     
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    nezumi One of Us Ski Pass: Silver

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    No real "loose parts" per se. Going from tour mode to ride mode it's a case of:
    • Skis off feet.
    • Collapse poles and stow.
    • Remove bindings, stick skis into snow as you go.
    • Remove skins and pack away.
    • Assemble board.
    • Attach bindings for ride.
    • Strap in and go.
     
  44. skifree

    skifree A disciple of the blessed avi giraffe Moderator Ski Pass: Gold

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    Will look at tomorrow but I routinely am picking up parts in splitters tracks.

    Maybe newer equipment has less / no loose bits.
     
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    nezumi One of Us Ski Pass: Silver

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    I think there's been good progress on the whole. A lot more captive parts than free pins and the like.

    Voile ski straps are still recommended equipment for everyone, along with duct tape etc. For my money, spare parts fall into the category of "if this particular part breaks, can I rig something up to get me home safely?". For the most part, it's not worth hauling around a spare strap for each part of a binding.
     
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    skifree A disciple of the blessed avi giraffe Moderator Ski Pass: Gold

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    It’s nuts bolts & washers & such I find.
     
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    nezumi One of Us Ski Pass: Silver

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    Bizzare! That sounds like really poor gear care then - there's no call that I can think of for needing an actual tool to effect a transition, especially not anything involving nuts/bolts/washers.

    At worst, you *might* need to tighten binding retention bolts inbetween a run and going to tour mode, but they shouldn't get so loose that they fall out.
     
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  49. Interruptedbyfireworks

    Interruptedbyfireworks One of Us Ski Pass: Silver

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    There are screws involved in the entire setup (obviously I guess) but no undoing of screws or pins or other such fasteners for the transition. The binding slides on and off, and has an integrated piece on the toe that hinges down to lock via snap fit.

    Keeping the screws tight enough that they don’t come undone will be imperative, I’ve seen mention of locktight on various online sites since vibration tends to shake screws loose. Probably not a bad idea for the non-adjustable screws (ie that fasten the toe and heel interface/attachments for tour mode) so realistically only spares for the binding screws need to be carried (since you always need to be able to adjust them for desired stance adjustments and therefore locktight would not be appropriate for those screws)
     
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  50. Mister Tee on XC Skis

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    It is O.K. . I just bought a 2 stroke whipper snipper. I will soon have Garden of the Year if things keep up like they are.