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Hakuba 2010

Discussion in 'Japan' started by Deepzone, Sep 19, 2009.

  1. Deepzone

    Deepzone Hard Yards

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    I thought someone should get the ball rolling on this one.
    Who's going and dates
    I tried to copy Shadows template from last seasons Hakuba09 page but no good. So happy for someone to add the pics.
    My dates are unconfirmed this season but should be around early March


    Hakuba 2009 / 2010

    The Clan


    Timmyhugecans - local
    Fattwins - local
    TJ - local

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    Australia Day - Whitehorse - sunset onwards
     
  2. Scholesy

    Scholesy First Runs

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    I'm there from 1st the 14th of March, bring it on!! First time to Japan
     
  3. rangerider

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    You're gonna love it Scholesy just don't tell your friends. [​IMG]
     
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  4. Sandy

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    27th Dec - 3rd Jan
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  5. Karen97

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    From the Japan thread....

    Updated crew list:

    Karen 97 - Hakuba is booked again for 2010 7-17th Feb
    stovemiester x3 - Hakuba 8 - 18 Feb
    snowishing - Niseko 1st-11th feb, hakuba 12th-27th
    pigface and +1 - Nagano area - Feb 8th to 20th
    Sandy - Hakuba - 27th Dec - 3rd Jan, 7th - 10th Jan, 20th - 23rd Feb
     
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    Slowpony & Cliffy cokebottle
    21-2-10 to 3-3-10 Hakuba staying @ Bears Den-Goryu
    3-3-10 to 10-3-10 Shiga Kogen staying (not sure yet any recommendations????????)
     
  7. mentat6059

    mentat6059 First Runs

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    Feb 6th - 16th with my boys. Send them home for school and uni and then I'm in Shiga 19th - 25th. The youngest knows exactly how many days until we leave, the oldest has already picked out the pubs he wants to go to.
     
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  9. Ian D

    Ian D Pool Room Staff Member Administrator Moderator

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  10. Karen97

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    Updated crew list:

    Karen 97 - Hakuba 7-17th Feb
    stovemiester x3 - Hakuba 8 - 18 Feb
    snowishing - Niseko 1st-11th feb, hakuba 12th-27th
    pigface and +1 - Nagano area - Feb 8th to 20th
    Sandy - Hakuba - 27th Dec - 3rd Jan, 7th - 10th Jan, 20th - 23rd Feb
    Slowpony & Cliffy cokebottle 21-2-10 to 3-3-10 Hakuba staying @ Bears Den-Goryu
    Chuck Norris - Feb 10-17th.
    Ian D - Jan 4th - 14th
     
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  11. Jemz79

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    3 of us 20th Feb to 6th March 2010

    Have only booked flights so far.....
     
  12. Jemz79

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    Oh and has anyone stayed at either at brownies chalet or Dancru netz chalets? Feel free to give me your review [​IMG]

    We want to stay in echoland this year in a self contained place and those seem to be well priced and look ok.
     
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  13. Peejay

    Peejay Hard Yards

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    Three of us from March 1 to 12. Still in process of finalising accomodation in Hakuba. We are all happy with lodge style accom and are yet to decide. Any recommendations welcome!
     
  14. TJ

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    This morning in Hakuba. The resort on the left is Happo One.
     
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    skichic A Local

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  16. benchives

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    me and +1 staying at Lodge Tabi Tabi in Goryu from 6th to 12th Feb

    yeeeha!
     
  17. smackies

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    I think someone did an area-by-area breakdown in the Japan 2010 thread.

    smackies + 4 (maybe +6) - 15th-20th Feb.
     
  18. _Dave_

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    Hi TJ
    Is this pic from the rice fields from the bottom of Hakuba
    Looks great
    I cant wait to get back over there again early next year (feb) [​IMG]
     
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  19. damian

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    I was part way up (at the base of) the flank of one of those peaks when you took that shot this morning. It was a cold start, eh.

    Really good to see so many pics from TJ himself getting out and about to capture Hakuba when and where it counts.
     
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  20. damian

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    Hakuba Yesterday in an area known as Daisekkei (it is a big permanent neve field). No one had skied there yet. The team was myself and Matsumoto-san who owns the local mountain equipment store - Rapies. We skied from 2100m down to 1750m. No powder left since the warm winds, but fun cream instead. He was saying "I hear this is just like Australia"

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    And so the 8 months of continuous backcountry skiing in Hakuba has commenced. Let the stink begin! [​IMG]

    More commentary at my blog.
     
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  21. Sandy

    Sandy Dark Sith Lord of the Pool Room Moderator Ski Pass: Gold

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    Good stuff !!!!!! [​IMG] [​IMG]

    I guess you're in the red?
     
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    tell matsumoto-san i will be coming to purchase some skins for my icelantic nomads [​IMG] Very helpful staff and a good range of BC gear at Rapies...
     
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  23. smitty484

    smitty484 Old n' Crusty

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    i like poos
     
  24. damian

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    Sandy - Yes, I am in the red.

    Snowishing - he will sell you the new Coll-Tex CT40 skins. Same awesome climbing grip for a low bulk skin as the old mohair Coll-Tex skins. But waayyy better glue. The glue is magic (last years glue was rubbish).

    smitty - I like poos as well.
     
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    Off topic - damian, do you know how much a set for like 181cm long 110mm wide 'skins' would be roughly? This will be the first set I have ever bought as I'm just getting into the backcountry hiking scene. Did a few hikes from the top of happo last year but want to start doing a few more (snow conditions/weather permitting) Looking at booking the AST1 on feb 20th atm which would be a good start?

    Weather still looks warm for the current forecast. When would winter normally kick in because i remember it being quite sudden when it does!!!

    Am i missing something with the 'poos'?
     
  26. damian

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    I assume you talking Hakuba prices? You can get something in roughly that length but 99 or so underfoot for between 30,000 and 40,000 yen in Hakuba right now (Sugar Daddies or Coombas for example). There is also a pair of floppy and very fat Chop Sticks on sale - not recommended for touring. I don't think there is anything on sale in 110mm. I might go by and get the sale prices and post them up (probably in the notice board section.) As for new seasons stock - I think it is arriving every day at the moment and prices vary a lot. Saw some nice BD Zealots in there, they are 110mm. I’ll check the price.

    Any AST1 is a good start. No matter who you do it with I strongly recommend you do one. It may be close to the resort, but Happo’s north and south faces have a lot of serious avalanche terrain – and they slide often enough to be of concern.

    I have no idea about the poos, was just going along with Smitty. Seemed like a fun thing to do.
     
  27. Sandy

    Sandy Dark Sith Lord of the Pool Room Moderator Ski Pass: Gold

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    I've seen some Salomon X-Wing Sandstorm skis in Tokyo. Length 180cm or 187cm, radius = 20m, tip:135mm. middle: 99mm. Tail 125mm.

    23,200 yen, plus bindings (Salomon S912 for around 7000 yen)
     
  28. snowishing

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    Sorry damian, actually meant to type 'skins' not skis for that post! One letter changes it to something just as relevant but not what I require. Skins should be around 20000 yen from the brief internet research i have done on the net. I have a new pair of icelantic nomads with marker barons on them. I know these bindings won't be good for long trecks but not intending on venturing too far! We skied a couple of lines above happo face last year (with locals who have done AST2). I'm getting confused with my directions, is the side that faces 47 the south face?

    Thanks for the info though (you too sandy). Mid february would be a good time for sales in ski shops in...i forgot the district (please sandy?)

    Ah ok..i'm thinking smitty got his account hijacked by a friend/family member!
     
  29. damian

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    Smitty likes poo.

    As for skins - they may sell out but you can get something well under 20,000 yen right now on sale. BD, Coll-Tex and G3. I'll post some prices for you.
     
  30. benchives

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    Damian, what is the status of demo'ing skis in Hakuba? Do many shops do it? I am in the market for a pair of mid fats, but still undecided. Do you have any recco's for ski shops in Hakuba?
     
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    Try Rapies! Or the shop at the Mominoki (Evergreen are there too)
     
  32. benchives

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    ok will do thanks SA. I got an afternoon to acquaint myself with the town's ski shops before unleashing a torrent of pent up SDS demand onto the slopes the following day. Sounds like there are a few around.
     
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    No worries. The place at the Mominoki have a good range for demo (at least they did this year) and in good nick.

    Rapies is just fun place to shop - lots of very good quality clothes as well as hard goods, and they have a BC focus too. It's great to have a chat with the staff - they are very keen snow enthusiasts. Don't forget to have a look at the room out the back; some excellent deals to be had there.
     
  34. damian

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    I don’t know much (anything) about the Mominoki demo set up. So can't ad anything further there. Rapies rents skis, not sure about demo. But I've never seen a large collection of demo gear that replicates the new season stuff they have on the rack so I guess no demos. I fact in the true sense of the word, they do not offer demos as far as I know. If you want to by the Rossy S7’s, you can’t try them. It is understandable for a small shop like that.

    These guys set up shop this year and probably offer demos http://libertyskis.com/2010/skis.php

    Snowishing, I check out skins for you today. The good value Coll-Tex sales have gone. This is what they have in your size – some are sale prices, some are normal:

    BD Glide Light Mohair Mix 110mm (grey): 17,000 yen

    BD Ascension 125mm Nylon (orange): 18,000

    BD Glide Light Nylon STS 110mm (tire print): 17,000 (sale)

    BD Glide Light Nylon AS 110mm 16,000 (sale)

    G3 115mm, no tail clip, (red G3 print): 13,000 (sale)
     
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    the whole concept of what demo skis are is twisted by the rental industry.
    Demos used to mean trying gear for free. As for gear spicys and central snow sports have new gear. Rappie only rents the best powder skis and mid fats really.

    On another note cortina opened up half of their trees again.
     
  36. TACKIE

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    Another one in Goryu is Ski Stadium in Escal Plaza. They had a good range of new stuff last year,from SL to fat skis. You can hire on a daily basis.
     
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    Thanks a lot for that info damian. I truly have no idea on what makes a good set of skins other than that they are easy to put on and retain their 'stick'. I might have to do a bit of research. What would you recommend to someone just starting BC and not imagining doing any bigger hikes (>2hrs)? The ski dimensions are 140-110-130.

    FT, that would be very interesting for people who have been 'nazi'ed by the patrollers down there. I remember them counting every time a westerner/non-beginner skier got on the lift and playing some reminder not to ski trees/off piste in japanese then english every time you got on the top lift! Also interesting you would advertise that as a local...I was going to go back nazis or no nazis. Cheers for the info either way.
     
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    Advertise not really. Just information for people. Not like this wasnt going to get out.
    The travel companies here already have buses going there. That was part of the reason Cortina re-opened their trees.

    The patrol there arent nazis actually. Some of them hike and ski lots of stuff. They were just doing the job that the resort set out for them.
     
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    FTw, where abouts are they opening the trees at Cortina? (general area)
     
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    [​IMG] well apparently I like poo. hmmm... [​IMG]
     
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    i havent seen the map yet but it looks like they are going to open half of the old dbd program. Before 80% of the trees were opened and controled by a gasex system, cutting and big fireworks. I am 90% sure about areas 1 and 2 but im not sure about area 3. More information is coming soon from the resort and bus tour people. Now that they have a BC gate and lots of open steep trees expect the patrol to be super nazi if you ski a closure.

    Also all the old signs are still there if it says closed then dont go. This is sort of like the niseko rules system. If too many people dont respect the rules we will loose this chance to move forward.
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  42. damian

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    Good to see a lift co. setting an example in the valley. I hope others lose business as a result.

    Snowishing - if you won’t use them often just go for the sale price G3 skins. Keep in mind I see beginners having troubles with them, and more experienced. They don't grip the snow so well. But if you have 110mm of the stuff under your foot, use them properly (it is ALL about technique) and care for them after usage then they will be fine. If you want ultimate grip, go for the orange BD skins, they will also last a very long time but are bulky in your pack. Keep in mind it is easy to blame your skins when in fact it is poor technique you are using, I see it all the time. edit: just saw your PM, lets chat there.
     
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    Good stuff, it's exciting to see some more areas opened up!!
     
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    Side note: Has Hakuba ever had issues with inbound avalanches triggered by people ducking ropes?
     
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    This is what it will look like...
    [​IMG]
     
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    And I am guessing you went straight down there after this shot was taken? [​IMG]

    Nice stuff but!!
     
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    Its not actually my shot..its from a mate I was with that day...
     
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    Smitty - I can't comment on slides directly triggered by rop-duckers. But the potential is most certainly there. Two seasons ago two school girls died when hit by an inbounds avalanche at Tsugaike. Their university ‘ski insyructor’ took them onto a cat track that was closed for this very risk. It was naturally triggered during a big storm with an unstable layer. Goryu and Hakuba 47 have several very appealing tree areas that would slide directly onto beginner runs below.
     
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    I was there in Hakuba when that happened.
    Very sad and a bit of a sombre wakeup call..
     
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    Yeh that sucks. Is that the same incident as when an "instructor" took a short cut to get a school group home quicker and then they were killed? I think I remember reading about it.