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Hakuba - 2014/15 - THE JOURNEY

Discussion in 'Japan' started by TJ, Jul 11, 2014.

  1. TJ

    TJ One of Us

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    skichanger A Local Ski Pass: Gold

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    Nice pic but you need to at least add yourself and some links.
     
  3. M_G

    M_G M_G_ = Make skiing great again Ski Pass: Gold

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    Here we go...

    Crew list:

    TJ: Hakuba resident
    damien: Hakuba resident
    Morino: Hakuba resident
    RayC: From 21 Jan
    Some other people...

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    Hakuba Wikiski
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    Official Hakuba website
    SnowNavi - this site (Japanese) has the ski discount vouchers, blogs, informal reports and lots of cool pics
    Hakuba Google map
    Hakuba webcams
    Hakuba 2013/14 thread - but post new questions here

    And some Hakuba snow porn from last year's thread

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  4. Hammer

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    We are heading to Hakuba for the first time for the 2014/2015 season...in fact it is our first time to a Japanese ski field. Our family are skiers but my youngest son (15 year old) is keen to learn how to snow board. Does anyone have any recommendations on an english speaking snowboarding school that gives lessons at an affordable price?
     
  5. Sandy

    Sandy Dark Sith Lord of the Pool Room Moderator Ski Pass: Gold

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    Both Hakuba Snowports (Goryu) and Hakuba Evergreen (Happo/Kokusai) have snowboard lessons in English(as well as ski lessons). How many days are you at Hakuba? It will cost a bit to hire for an extended period, and it may be cheaper to buy a snowboard & boots, if it's longer than 7-10 days. For example, I recently bought my daughter snowboard/bindings/boots/bag for 21,000 yen (about $220) in Tokyo.
    Where are you staying? That will have an impact to some extent, on where you get your lessons.
     
  6. Hammer

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    G'Day Sandy...we are going through OzSnow and are staying at the Hakuba Gondola Hotel opposite the main Happo Gondola for 14 days (10 days of skiing). At present we have ski hire included but would still be open to purchasing if the price is right...my problem is my boy is still growing. He is a keen skateboarder and snowboarding is increasingly attractive for him. I have looked at Hakuba Evergreen this morning but found their website slightly confusing...eg. do they packages of 5 lessons etc.
    Appreciate your help Sandy!
     
  7. BobGnarly

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    If he is a skater he will have no problem picking up snowboarding. Tell him to weight the board like he is doing a nose manual, then just lean on an edge to turn.
    He will be shredding first day IMO
     
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    I'll be in Hakuba on the 27th Jan for 5 nights after my stay at Nozawa
     
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    I'm there. From Dec 26th until whenever the knee fails. My guess is 3 weeks.
     
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    Barras, Mrs Barras, SIL, BIL, nephew and niece arriving 22/12 - 8/1
     
  11. Donza

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    With me maybe...
     
  12. RayC

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    We are snowboarders but my +1 wants to try skiing. I know there are other threads dealing with skis for beginners but I don't know what is available for hire at Hakuba. Any ideas/suggestions?
     
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    So what areas of Hakuba are these?

    We're in Hakuba from 28 Dec to 7 Jan.
     
  14. Tanuki

    Tanuki A Local Ski Pass: Gold

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    1. Looking towards Happo One from the train station area?
    2. Iwatake?
    3 Back bowl on Iwatake?
     
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  15. Sandy

    Sandy Dark Sith Lord of the Pool Room Moderator Ski Pass: Gold

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    1st looking up towards Happo from the valley.
    2nd looking towards Happo from Iwatake
    3rd is in Iwatake on the back side
     
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    ^Thanks.
     
  18. Annabuzzy

    Annabuzzy Part of the Furniture Ski Pass: Gold

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    We will probably be there again. That or Niseko, but probably Hakuba (not Goryu again Sandy!).
     
  19. Sandy

    Sandy Dark Sith Lord of the Pool Room Moderator Ski Pass: Gold

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    ROFL

    I tell you what, let me know when you are thinking of going, and maybe we can line it up!!
    Yardsale & Flakey will be up there around 3rd -20th Feb I think, so I will catch up with them sometime around then.

    Also possibly around 12th -17th Jan.

    PM me if you need specific info!!! ;)
     
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    Annabuzzy Part of the Furniture Ski Pass: Gold

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    Thanks Sandy. Will definitely do. We do have (better) accommodation in mind at Happo (forgotten name for a moment) that a friend stays at regularly and we visited at least 3 times during our last visit. We were impressed but I'll run it by you before we book.

    I think we learnt a few things not to do last time! This time we will have our by then 4 year old daughter in tow so it will be a completely different experience (my wife was in the early stages of pregnancy during our last visit in 2010).
     
  21. Sandy

    Sandy Dark Sith Lord of the Pool Room Moderator Ski Pass: Gold

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    What's the plan?? Tag team or??
     
  22. Annabuzzy

    Annabuzzy Part of the Furniture Ski Pass: Gold

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    We're just about to head for a week in Thredbo so the experiment continues. To this point we've done tag teaming but this year we'll see how ski school goes. We'll probably do a mix of tag team and ski school. If that all works we'll then feel confident to book 2 or 3 weeks in Hakuba plus maybe Disneyland on the way back (4 might be a bit young though). That's the vague plan. If there's no ski school at all I might try to get in a two week blokes trip for me and postpone the family trip for another year.
     
  23. Donza

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    Needs more totoro
     
  24. Annabuzzy

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    Totoro? What's that?
     
  25. M_G

    M_G M_G_ = Make skiing great again Ski Pass: Gold

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    Obviously not into Japanese anime Annabuzzy?

     
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  26. Annabuzzy

    Annabuzzy Part of the Furniture Ski Pass: Gold

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    My daughter's got a stuffed Totoro toy actually. I never knew what it was. There you go!
     
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  27. Sandy

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    She will love it!!! Go into JB HiFi and buy it!!!
     
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    I'd appreciate some accom recommendations please. I'll be solo, comfortable in a 4-dorm arrangement and shared bathroom but prepared to pay a bit more if it's worth it. I like a beer or 3 and an onsen at day's end, but prefer to be in bed at 11 pm rested for the next day's charging so not really a partier. Thanks. Planning on being there 7 Feb after a week in Nozawa.
     
  29. mrtonya

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    Penke Panke
     
  30. Sandy

    Sandy Dark Sith Lord of the Pool Room Moderator Ski Pass: Gold

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    Yep!!

    Penke Panke has small but comfortable one person rooms with shared bathroom (2 rooms, 7000 yen or 8000 yen per night) or shared dorm rooms 5900yen /night.
    It a well run operations, in a good location (just near the Happo Sakka lifts) They run a bus late afternoon to the supermarket, and one to a different onsen each afternoon.
    http://www.penkepanke.com/en/ski-lodge-rates


    Further out in the valley, but just near a shuttle stop is Hakuba Powder Lodge
    http://www.hakubapowderlodging.com/rates/
    2500 yen per night for shared 4 person room, shared bathroom.
    There are usually lots of powder hounds there.

    I haven't stayed there, and not sure of the rates, but Monkeyrider has shared dorm beds:
    http://www.monkeyrider.com.au/
     
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    Many thanks for the suggestions.
     
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    I vote for hakuba powder lodge ...funny that.... the quad rooms aren't dorms as such....and if you're lucky you might share with myself or smitty...smackies...mark102 etc etc
     
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    I'm looking at a week in December if the season starts off as good as it did last season. This will be last minute though and depend 100% on the snow conditions.
     
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    We are looking at having a day off the snow to visit Jigokudani Monkey Park. Liquid Japan have a day trip that will probably suit us but I am open to suggestions for alternative providers and I would welcome any general tips from those who have done this before.
     
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    I did the trip to the snow monkeys from Hakuba a couple of years ago. I can't remember which tour operator we went with but it was probably Liquid Tours. We visited a sake brewery for lunch and the Zenkoji Temple in the afternoon. It was a good day, I enjoyed it.
     
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    Thanks B C. The sake brewery, temple and Monkey Park all in one day sounds like a full programme.
     
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    I did a similar tour but it was Monkeys, temple and a Japanese lunch. I could have skipped the lunch but the temple and monkeys were great and the whole thing didn't feel over rushed. We just organised a booking while we were there - no need to pre book and I doubt you save yourself any money by doing so.
     
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    Thanks Anna. That is good to know since we aren't sure yet what day will suit us best so booking over there will be better.
     
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    I must've replied in the other thread.

    There is nothing wondrous or natural about stinky monkeys sitting in a man-made tourist trap. It somewhat resembles a National Geographic photography convention with all the long lenses shoved into the monkeys' faces.
     
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    While there is truth to this, it's still an experience. It's a bit like the penguin parade here in VIC. If you are self-mobile you'd be much better off going to the other entrance where the walk is very short and you dont need to spend so much time there. Having said that the traditional Japanese lunch is really worth it, and getting dropped off and wandering around Zenkoji temple is a good way to kill an hour or 2, especially if you stop in for a crepe.

    I actually had more fun with the family of monkeys I saw at lake Chuzenjiko/Kegon Falls. No one else around probably helped but they were less tame than the ones at Jigokudani and just going about their business as we were eating lunch. But seriously, not worth going to Nikko just for that.
     
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    I liked the monkeys
     
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    i arrive 26 Dec and leave 17 Jan
     
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    Guess where I've been...?
    The tour we went on was hosted by an Australian snowboard photographer that was now a goat farmer in Hakuba. That's a career change! He was excellent in his general knowledge and commentary regarding all of the Japanese historical items to look at/out for. Very dry humour too! We did a tour that had Monkeys/Sake sampling/brewery + lunch/Zenkoji Temple. The Temple was the coldest place I have ever been...dress for it. The Walk to the monkeys was amazing through the snow covered forest, but I guess that would depend on the weather - as we went in a snowstorm (only had to dodge a few tonnes of snow falling off branches.) Many tours available and easy to book from the Hotel when there - from memory about $100 pp. You could also catch a bus to Nagano and Taxi to the Moneys for a much cheaper option (you would have to pay for entry to see the monkeys, but it was not too much) Convenience and package deal convinced us! Enjoy.
     
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    I had that guide too! I've forgotten his name though. He was really good.
     
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    As I am going there this upcoming season and he is highly regarded by some you...it would be great to know his tour company as we are definitely going to do a tour to the snow monkeys. Any chance of finding a name?
     
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    Ditto
     
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    Besides working very hard at making nice goat's cheese in summer, I believe he is one of the monkey guides working for Ski Japan Specialists in winter. It is great to hear his efforts are well regarded. He's a nice guy and I believe genuinely enjoys helping visitors access Japan away from the ski areas.
     
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    Rob Alexander’s Hakuba Goats' Cheese - Google is our friend...and there is no-one else making Goat cheese there!
    Rob was the coach guide in Winter and farmer in the Summer.
    Not sure re the tour company - there are two or three. All seemed to be similar itinerary and price - we picked the one with Sake tasting :-0
     
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    Thanks @Tegski will keep that in mind when booking our trip later this year.
     
  50. Bluebird

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    I think we booked it through Ski Japan - but I could be wrong. The same company also offered tours over to Nozawa Onsen for the Fire Festival. We booked it on arrival in Hakuba, I think only 2-3 days before we did the actual tour, so you should have some time to ask around before booking.