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Travel Life Hakuba 2020

Discussion in 'Japan' started by BMWRX, Oct 13, 2019.

  1. TACKIE

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    Top of Goryu and down to 47 was great this morning, and held good snow til mid arvo when the legs said enough is enough.
     
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    Good times this morning. Approx 40cm at the top of 47 although a tad wet. Managed to get 1st turns down line 2 which was VERY good, then a couple more runs up top before a top to bottom run, 2nd time round it was pretty chopped up so bailed. Glad you had a good day too Tackie.

     
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    Wow, looks much more wintery than the beginning of February when I was there!
     
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    crazy! & few to ski it.
    Oh well another year eh?
     
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  5. Lucky Pete

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    After 5 days of fresh pow in the valley we have rain today but yesterday was FUN even if the snow was a little wet :) Looks like some light snow up top tonight and more snow tomorrow night and Tuesday. #march

     
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  6. BMWRX

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    That looks awesome. And I don't recall the trees being that far apart when I was zooming between them...or maybe my level of ability made the seem much closer together!
     
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    That’s insane snow! Trees look pretty close for average punters.
     
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  8. Lucky Pete

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    More snow today. Maybe 10cm +. I was going to go back to Cortina but top lift is shut. I wont ride in Gondolas now due to the risk so have come home instead.

    TBH the resorts should shut ASAP. Being open rapidly escalates the risks to our elderly and immune compromised community members, of which a large part of our population is, by having non residents coming in and out of town. From what I can see we are the only country still operating lifts.

    In line with that, even though business was ticking along nicely we have shut our shop and last rental property indefinitely as to not put our staff which includes my wife at risk. Not an easy decision but one that needed to be made.
     
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    I agree... Nick was saying similar yesterday... and he is usually pretty chilled ...
     
  10. TACKIE

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    Not sure how seriously the Japanese nationals are taking this. Judging by the number of them who swarmed into Hakuba last long week end. Very surprised the ski fields are still open. Even against advice, plenty of folk still hanging around anywhere with sakurablossoms .
     
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  11. BMWRX

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    I thought Cortina closed a week or so ago for the season. Is there a secret handshake to get back on the lifts?
     
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    Haha, actually, majority ski resorts here in Japan are open even now, not only Hakuba.

    It's actually very far from lockdown in Japan now and I don't think Japan need it (=lockdown). The sports gym and Yoga salon I go to are still open. They are higher risk in that they are more crowded than ski fields. Lockdown won't be able to extinguish COVID-19 but it'll just decrease the number of newly infected people during the lockdown period. Vaccine and medicines won't be available soon unfortunately, so lockdown is almost meaningless unless they can keep the lockdown for a few years or even longer (in that it will take at least 2 years or so that the vaccines and medicines become available). I don't think any country can keep the lockdown for that long. If the lockdown can't extinguish the virus, it will just kill the economy = the worst scenario (economic crisis also can kill a lot of people)

    Having said that, if my parents were older than 70 years and I were living with them, I would never go to crowded places. About 40 Japanese people have died of COVID-19 as of last night. 39 out of 40 + deaths are older than 70. The only one exception is a guy in his 50s who was suffering from a cancer (stage 4, reportedly). So, for majority of people, COVID-19 is not fatal. Flu kills a lot of people every year, and actually, not many people in Japan have died of flu this season "thanks to the outbreak of COVID-19"(I mean, people have been more careful to avoid catching virus). So, in a way, you can say "This year is safer than last year"(I know many of you disagree with me, though;))



    Someone might need to make a new thread "COVID-19 in Japan":p
     
  13. Lucky Pete

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    They reopened as the storm that was in the forecast for 10 days came, 3 days after they shut.
     
  14. Lucky Pete

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    Only place on the planet as I understand it. Is everyone else wrong or Japan? To be blunt with elderly in laws and other family members here facing pre-existing significant health problems I am calling for the resorts to put the community well being in front of cash flow and close thus vastly reducing the influx of people from areas with infections into our small, elderly community.
     
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  15. Lucky Pete

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    Significant snowfall over night. Must be 20+cm down in the valley and much more up top. As much as I would like to ride Im sticking to our plan of self isolation. Yesterday there was no snow in this pic.
     
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    I thought folk were just getting out skiing over there? Hokkaido friends have been ‘thoughtfully’ sharing video of empty powder slopes, as locals enjoy mountains free of tourists
     
  17. Lucky Pete

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    Some are, those that take a wider approach to community safety are self isolating.
     
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  18. Lucky Pete

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    Happo has closed today and TGK will tomorrow as a result of the declaration of a state of emergency by Abe, even though Nagano was not one of the listed prefectures. Its great to see this happen as both these are magnets for bringing people from elsewhere into our valley, something we dont want under the current circumstances so kudos to all involved in making that decision. All eyes are on Goryu/47 to see if they do the right thing too or see this as an opportunity to make $. Hopefully they to step up.

    In other news its a great time to be out by myself wandering around on my little CT110. I always love spring here, you can see so much more without all the vegetation some days.

     
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    That a great photo. It's sad to see the fields turn to grass and the lift close but it'll be back next year.

    I don't think I've ever missed somewhere I've been on holidays as hard as I do Hakuba. And considering this year had horrible snow fall and the town was full of p!ssed Aussies (Snow Machine), being there when all is normal will be even better.
     
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    Just love that bike. :D
     
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    So that's wrap for the season with 47 and Goryu closing today much to the joy of a lot of their staff and local residents. Whilst not a cracker there were plenty of good days and a couple epic. Its going to be interesting to see how next season pans out.
     
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  22. TJ

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    Snowing up on the top of the resorts. That's a long hike for some heavy snow but there will crew up there as soon as it clears.
     
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    I loved TGK. However, I didn't particularly love how hard the trees were as I was learning my first runs through them. LOL

    Even that small run to the left of the Tsuga No Mori lift was brilliant. Big wide area with just enough pitch to get some good pace up. Goodness knows how many times I lapped that thing.
     
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  24. TJ

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    Yep most of the tree runs in Hakuba are actually pretty tight. Even more so on a lean year. They were actually cutting some of the smaller trees down up there a few weeks ago which will make it a bit easier next time. Practice short sharp turns on the runs. Then practice on crowded runs. Moving targets will make you even more responsive :)
     
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    more space btn trees (anywhere in Hakuba) would be good. TGK included.

    While I loved my Hakuba trip and skiing I was a bit surprised there wasn’t more edge of the run inbounds glade skiing. I think Goryu has a bit (diff colour on their map) but i lacked the time and to a degree the fresh snow to explore.

    Perhaps if I was skiing (Tele) better the treed areas would have looked more doable.

    I also thought Happo can do more with their upper mtn if the eased their risk reduction policy a tad. I.e Skiers right of the top two or three lifts (facing H47) there’s some nice open slopes, free of trees, modest angle (blue- red) and it’s not only not lifted, it’s out of bounds. (Reminds me of the Drift Tbar slope a tad)

    Maybe there’s some hi avi danger, or the (west) wind strips pow etc...?

    Happo is so big - it looks like it could be so much better with enthusiasm, money and maybe less legal worries?

    Too simplistic? Too hard? Too much cost for benefit?
     
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    The Happo slopes facing Hakuba47 are huge and deadly avalanche areas.

    Which mountains did you ski at Hakuba?
     
  27. snowgum

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    Avi slopes? That explains it Sandy!

    Mostly Happo ~ 6 days; 2 @ G/H47, 1@ TSK on lift @ another BC.

    Long story short Sandy: new biggish (but excellent) Enforcer 104 skis to get used to; infrequent freshies & often damp & sometimes crusty cover; made even glazed areas challenging at times.

    But 1 day old powder above TSK on the Evergreen tour was really nice and fairly easy to ski on.
    I just lacked the fitness to climb as fast as the youngies in the group. Plus a heavy Tele set up & non slip G3 Nylon skins! Feeling my 53 years that day!!
     
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    TSG =TSK?
     
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    DoH yes - my selective dislexia! Cheers :rolleyes:
     
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    The hat offers a third interpretation. Even at around $70AUD I couldn't leave without a reminder of the good times there.
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    coo
    Cool - I have my posters & stickers but alas no cloth badges from Japan :)-(

    And happy memories!!
     
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    I collect caps from all of the places I go. I was toying with the idea of getting a cap from each of the Hakuba resort (i.e. 10 of them). However, only Tsugaike had any (well, ones worth buying). Maybe next time they'll have some at each resort.
     
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    End of the season would have been yesterday which coincides with the end of the national Golden Week holidays. It timed perfectly with the sakura here this year. Everything was closed and hardly anyone about. A very peaceful and calming time to be in Hakuba with perfect spring time weather. An interesting year ahead no doubt.
     
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    Beautiful - sort of ski homesick already!
     
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    Less than 4 months to go........ (or thereabouts) :)
     
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    And the chances of getting back there from Australia this coming season are slim to none. Riding Happo top to bottom is a box I absolutely must tick. This year was a bit rocky to try.

    I did Goryu tip to tail a few times (Grand Prix is brilliant - such a wide run; then onto Champions for some real pace) and it was easily one of the highlights of the trip (along with over 40cm fresh at Cortina).
     
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    Totally agree, there are 1 or 2 places where I will drop top to bottom early in a session as most folks just circulate the top ;)

    If you cant make it I'll get some turns for you :)
     
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    I was hoping you'd say that. As long as someone is enjoying it, in a small way it makes me happier (if I can't make it).

    I was going to come to your bar when we were there but then found out that you no longer run it, so abstained. Maybe next time I'm there I'll pop in, as we'll more than likely be closer to that part of town (we were at the De Laile, near the Rabbit Hole).
     
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    All good mate, not owning the bar is a good thing for me and the new owner Tim is a good guy. I still eat there regularly and probably enjoy it more now then when I owned it. It was and still is a lot different then the Rabbit Hole. ;)

    If you do make it next season reach out and we can try and get some turns and/or a beer :)
     
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    Will do. And the Rabbit Hole isn't really my kind of scene. It was just convenient.
     
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    FWIW; Being at Luna Lodge this Feb, Practically opposite, the Rabbit Hole was dead handy.

    Quite a lively spot, not really a place for an intimate couple's retreat or the place to propose to a loved one. ;)

    But one to celebrate a good day’s skiing with noisy mates, a singalong or two and then scram. Hopefully with the tinnitus manageable. :cool:
     
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    We went a few times as it was just up the road but found ourselves going to the Eagle Lodge at the end of the week. A bit of a dive but a lot more relaxed and quiet, and the beers were cheaper!
     
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    We ate there twice, upstairs, place was empty, but the food was really good and cheap
     
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    Agreed, best pizzas in town in the bar area. The upstair area wasn't open when we went up there, so just went back to the bar.
     
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    best pizza's in town this winter was when our chef cooked them for staffies this year :) Pep from wasabi Lodge has just made a wood fired pizza oven over the summer which I would say have been the best pizzas I have had here. Plenty of new restaurants opening up at the moment through the valley. Tough time for business but we had a 4 day long weekend here which would have helped a bit. Cool little cafe, And Mountain is in a random spot but worth checking out. Fattwins place to the left in the pic to get your bearings..

     
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    Rabbit Hole was a bit quieter mornings generally but I didn’t go in for brunch/lunch. One or two wet days they seemed pretty busy midday. Days skiing would have been woeful.

    I also dark/ate at Penke Bar. That was pretty friendly and lively; with some good acoustic guitar.
    Just a bit crowded and noisy for my taste later in the evening. It’s a 50s thing but it could be just me too. :rolleyes:
     
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    I can see Nick out there cutting wood!
     
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    Haaa. Yep and working his vege garden. He dropped over some homemade pickles the other night.
     
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    I was actually a bit disappointed with places to hang out and eat/drink in Hakuba. We walked around town for a good hour one night trying to find somewhere, but to no avail. We ended up going to The Pub, which was horrendous. It was expensive, the food was terrible (frozen pie microwaved, anyone?), beer was warm and pricey, and the general atmosphere was sub-standard. I gave some feedback when a staff member asked if I was enjoying myself, to which she didn't really seem to care. That place could be so much more, but they choose to run it like they do.

    That's what I give Rabbit Hole great credit for. They know what they are, they know their clientele and they do a bang up job catering for them. Don't get me wrong, I really liked the place, but after a day on the slopes (and I'm the kind of person who laps start to finish with no stopping for lunch - Snickers really does satisfy in this instance) I just want a quiet place to rest my weary bones, have a few ales, grab a meal, and maybe a chat with some other visitors. The Rabbit Hole was just a little too boisterous for this kind of wind down. However, during the day for lunch it's much more toned down and much more my style.
     
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    I find that a bit surprising. But it’s also fair to say that Happo aside the various restaurants are found out and about and you often need a cab ride to them. I love for instance the Chicken Katsu Don at Hakuba House in Happo, the Soba at Zen, an Izakaya at Echoland the name of which escapes me, a little Italian place at Echoland the name again lost to memory, and the Pizzas at Pizza Kaya. They’re each at least a 5-10 minute cab ride from each other. Not walkable between them.