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Hakuba accommodation recommendations pls

Discussion in 'Japan' started by bluess57, Nov 17, 2018.

  1. bluess57

    bluess57 Hard Yards

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    Hi people,
    My mate has a leave pass to go skiing in Japan and has 'twisted' my arm to go as well.
    Looking at going to Hakuba, mainly coz I'm familiar with it, getting there/back etc.
    We're both advanced ski-ers, the wrong side of 50, tentative dates are 17th February for 7 nights.
    Tried penke panke and they can fit us in, bar 1 night, with 3 rooms swaps. Not ideal.
    Looking for recommendations for reasonable places to stay, mid range to budget.
    Close to the shuttle buses would be ideal.
    Thx
     
  2. skichanger

    skichanger A Local Ski Pass: Gold

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    If you are interested in trying Myoko or Madarao pm me. Both are easier to get to than Hakuba as there is no bus transfer involved.
     
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    I kind of liked PP ten years ago with my son, but we were on the top floor at the back with a large twin bedroom and a smaller single bedroom with the bathroom between them, very quite quiet actually. Another guy my age and his son unfortunately were not so lucky and the rooms either side of them had either a lot of very audible hanke panke going on once a young woman traveling by herself arrived, and the other had young guys coming in roaring drunk about 2AM. So his son happily accepted my offer to take the spare 2nd room in our 'suite'.
     
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  4. M_G

    M_G M_G_ = Make skiing great again Ski Pass: Gold

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    Deepzone Hard Yards

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    Tokyo to Iiyama 101 minutes - Fastest train
    Iiyama to Akakura Kanko 37 minutes - Google maps
    Total 138 minutes
    Tokyo to Nagano 79 minutes - Fastest train
    Nagano to Hakuba 52 minutes - Google maps
    Total 131 minutes
    Just ask your accom to arrange a pick up in Nagano and save yourself a grand total of 7 minutes. Massive difference on your 24 hours of travel.
    [- personal attack removed -]
     
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  6. M_G

    M_G M_G_ = Make skiing great again Ski Pass: Gold

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    Iiyama to Akakura Kanko in 37 minutes - is that by helicopter? ;) Maybe possible if the road is clear and you're not stuck behind any oji-chan in their k-truck. It usually takes me around 25 minutes from Akakura Onsen to the bottom park at Madarao, 30 minutes to the top park. Another 7 minutes down to Iiyama Station? Yeah, nah.

    Best way is to change to the local Kita-Shinano line at Nagano and get off at Myoko-Kogen. Then it's less than 10 minutes by taxi/shuttle up the hill.

    But in the end you're absolutely correct. The difference is minimal at best. Just depends on timings.
     
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    Sandy Dark Sith Lord of the Pool Room Moderator Ski Pass: Gold

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    If you're wanting to keep it honest, then the bus from Nagano to Hakuba leaves every 90-120 min (approx). So if you arrive just as one bus leaves, you need to add 90-120min.

    OTOH, you can go by train from Tokyo to Nagano to Myoko-kogen in 139min, then catch a taxi.
     
  8. Lucky Pete

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    So back on topic.......

    Try the Whitehorse and if that is a little exy ask about Money Rider when you chat with Tony from the Whitehorse as he manages both. Both located in Echoland.

    If you are coming direct from Narita/Haneda one option is Nagano Snow Shuttle. If over nighting in Tokyo on the way up get the 730am train from Shinjuku.
     
  9. M_G

    M_G M_G_ = Make skiing great again Ski Pass: Gold

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    Or arriving very early (say 6am into Haneda). Of all the choices this would be my preferred Tokyo-Hakuba ride.
     
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    Wow, this thread went off rails.
    Travel times don't particularly worry me/us too much. Got all day to get from Haneda to a ski resort.
    Was just interested in good places to find a bed.
    Anyway we're booked in.
    Cheers
     
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  11. Donzah

    Donzah Old n' Crusty Ski Pass: Gold

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    It might not be the easiest for a Tokyo Newbie to navigate to Shinjuku then purchase tickets in time to make the train.
    However. Yeah makes perfect sense.
     
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    M_G M_G_ = Make skiing great again Ski Pass: Gold

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    Yeah, true.
     
  13. Lucky Pete

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    Great result, where did you end up?
     
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    A bit late - but Mominoki resort in Hakuba was great - has an amazing onsen:) We stayed there in 2017. Great skiing across a good choice of resorts. Also the snow monkeys are def worth a look!
     
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    Visited the Onsen at Mominoki on a previous trip
    Definitely looked like a nice hotel
     
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    Mominoki is a good motel. stayed there in 2016. ditto on the onsen. the disco bus is a cracker. the motel is well worth a look.
     
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    Vermillion Pool Room Ski Pass: Gold

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    Onsen or sentoh?
     
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    It is an onsen, named Shobei no-yu. We stayed at Mominoki this past January for 4 nights. It was good as far as a mid-priced hotel but I found it too crowded and impersonal compared to the wonderful ryokens we stayed at during our trip. They allow people not staying at the hotel to use the onsen for a fee but I think there were many poachers as they do not really monitor who is using it. Seemed like the kids working at evergreen were there every night after work for a clean up session.
     
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    A new bus service will be running from Nagano to Hakuba and back next season which you will pre-book for. As I understand it the timetable will be a little better than the Alpico one which will reduce any delays etc.
     
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