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Hannels

Discussion in 'Backcountry' started by VSG, Feb 8, 2006.

  1. Mister Tee on XC Skis

    Mister Tee on XC Skis A Local Ski Pass: Silver

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    The NW spur is not especially scenic until you reach the MUMC hut . It is steep. The Northern Razorback walking track is possibly the most scenic route up Mt. Feathertop but the Diamantina spur is relentlessly T O U G H and scenic.
    For people training for Hannel's spur both Mt. Bogong and Mt. Feathertop offer worthy places to get your hill climbing fitness and training well into motion.
     
  2. Kletterer

    Kletterer Thredbo Doughnut Tragic Moderator Ski Pass: Gold

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    Ropers Hut- Duanne Spur. Big River- T Spur- Cleve Cole is the yardstick.
     
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    A couple of laps of Perry’s Lookdown is a nice stroll to keep the legs in shape too.
     
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    Or the other way...Fk yeah...never again
     
  5. GS

    GS A Local Ski Pass: Gold

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    The Mt Donna Buang from Warburton climb is a good 1000m + vertical workout and close enough to Melbourne to do as a day trip.
     
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    Ubiquitous Steve A Local Ski Pass: Gold

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    Ubi has enough trouble negotiating the kittens Staircase to the first level...

    But there are some distractions en route!

    But am travelling light with only a champagne in hand.
     
  7. Mister Tee on XC Skis

    Mister Tee on XC Skis A Local Ski Pass: Silver

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    I have done that and I was beyond Ga Ga on completing that route in one day with a heavy overnight pack ! ;-P. I will give it another go next green season just to find out whether or not , if I was having a hallucination that I was in Hell.
     
  8. GS

    GS A Local Ski Pass: Gold

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    By the sounds of it you really need to shed some kilos.....either out of that pack you’re lugging, or any spare tyres you’re carrying :whistle:......:D
     
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    coolair One of Us Ski Pass: Gold

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    I averaged around 100m vert every 20 min on my climb out of Bungonia yesterday, made similar time on Perrys
    so that means at least 6 hours up for Hannels, plus I would have additional load, any Sherpa's for hire?
    then I have to Walk out and get back to the car.
     
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  10. Ubiquitous Steve

    Ubiquitous Steve A Local Ski Pass: Gold

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    Come you need to do Camp Mulhe to Ropers and return.....but better take torch ....no that's a day walk!Then you will have something to tell girls at Kittens when you recover!T Spur and Duane so good you do it twice with little sleep at Ropers ....power nap!
     
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    zac150 One of Us Ski Pass: Gold

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    A mate and I shared valentines with a guy who was into his high energy foods for low weight, he had a 8kg pack which included a 1kg block of cheese! He was short on Tuna which was his preferred energy food.

    Anyway no tent so he rolled out his gear under a tree (in the snow), anyway got so cold in the middle of the night he ended up back by the fire. Now I think about it, I’m not sure what he had in his pack as he had no gear.

    I like to enjoy the hikes so light weight high energy food is reserved for snacks.

    That said on projects / challenges I’d be happy to go ultra, but the purpose their is the fitness not enjoyment.
     
  12. Mister Tee on XC Skis

    Mister Tee on XC Skis A Local Ski Pass: Silver

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    While I may be having a wee dry patch in regards to horizontal recreation I am not going to visit "Kittens". It would be like ordering a pizza and never getting to eat it. I doubt the lovely lassies at "Kittens" would know or care about the Bogong High Plains and your suggested plan of extreme masochism.
    I doubt a return day walk with a day pack to Roper's hut from Mulhuaser Spur would be possible because I am merely human.
     
  13. GS

    GS A Local Ski Pass: Gold

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    On the second last day of an Easter walk maybe 30 odd years ago our group walked from Cleve Cole to Ropers via T and Duane Spurs. One member twisted their ankle quite badly near Big River. So while they were having lunch at the river and icing the ankle in the water, I smashed out a non stop climb to Ropers, dropped my pack , turned around and wandered back down. Met them only a short distance up from the river so I continued down the last bit to replenish my empty water bottles and psyched myself up for a 2nd ascent of Duane Spur in a day. Caught up with them and carried injured persons pack for the remainder of the climb. Fair to say I was a little shagged by the time I reached Ropers.
     
  14. Mister Tee on XC Skis

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    I doubt you will doing that again in a hurry these days.
     
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    GS A Local Ski Pass: Gold

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    No chance, knees are past that.
     
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  16. Chaeron

    Chaeron One of Us Ski Pass: Gold

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    T-Spur and Duane Spur to Ropers from Cleve Cole makes for a memorable day, especially with a full pack. Good times though.
     
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    Done it both directions. From langfords to CC hut was toughest. Tossed the tent and fell asleep eating dinner on one of those lovely mattreses.
     
  18. Mister Tee on XC Skis

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    The OP might want to try this route ( Roper's hut to Cleve Cole hut) in one day with a full pack in order to get ready for Hannel's spur.
     
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    Kletterer Thredbo Doughnut Tragic Moderator Ski Pass: Gold

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    Ropers
     
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    Xplora One of Us Ski Pass: Silver

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    That should have been easy for you which proves the point. Nearly every walk you do in the mountains you describe yourself by some vernacular which implies you were exhausted at the end of the day. I doubt you are not fit so it must be because of the amount of weight you are carrying. If you want to keep this up when you are 80 then you should think about hiring a sherpa now. There is no way you will be carrying 25kg at that age so better you make adjustments now. It is not about the expense of lightweight gear. My gear is not ultra light and I also carry a kitchen sink (sea to summit) so I don't wash up in the stream. If this is your summer weight then imagine your winter pack or are you carrying a full winter pack in the summer? Not wanting to offend some but CC to Ropers took us 4 hours with full packs on a recent trip. Not quite the benchmark for a Hannels ascent.
     
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    Hermannator One of Us Ski Pass: Silver

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    Optimal BMI for this kind of stuff? 31 perhaps :p?
     
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  22. Mister Tee on XC Skis

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    That is the OLD Roper's hut. One day I hope to visit the New Roper's hut on skis towing a toboggan.
     
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  23. Mister Tee on XC Skis

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    I can see myself reducing my pack weight one way or another but I don't think it is a race. I bushwalk and ski at my own pace and with luck will forget about the hands on the clock.
     
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    It appears they have finished clearing the entire track.

     
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    It will not take too long to be difficult to follow looking at that environment.

    Do we need special folks to do a lap a week to keep the foot pad visible?
     
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  26. Mister Tee on XC Skis

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    The have cleared the whole track ?!. Ma`Sh`Allah!. I am hatching a plan for Easter 2019 !!!
     
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    telecrag Old n' Crusty Ski Pass: Gold

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    I believe they have put word out to the trailrunning community, should be fine! If somewhat painful!
     
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    Somewhat painful? That may be the understatement of the year.
     
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    telecrag Old n' Crusty Ski Pass: Gold

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    I meant the trail runners are somewhat painful!
     
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  30. malas1

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    No more than axe throwin hipsters!
     
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    telecrag Old n' Crusty Ski Pass: Gold

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    Just stay off my mtb tracks! haha, had a guy running on the trails at Majura, but he was alert, just as well when you run down Planet Claire!

    So weird how its suddenly a thing, with all its own gear and all.
     
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  32. Mister Tee on XC Skis

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    Since the track will start to become overgrown rather quickly I am inspired to grovel up it and down it while it is clear. Is finding the start of the track simple?
     
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  33. zac150

    zac150 One of Us Ski Pass: Gold

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    Not a bad thing, I think trail running has had a massive impact on gear weight.
     
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    Sort off, see earlier in this thread.
     
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  35. Mister Tee on XC Skis

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    There is work currently being done on the section of the Main range walking track between Mt. Lee and Carruthers' Peak.
     
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  36. Chaeron

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    That’s it - doing it again this Easter.
     
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    GO LIGHT!
     
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    Send a mob of feral horses up to the tree line and then send them back down, a few times.:out:
     
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    The cultural heritage brumby run. Get "the man"out there and just tell him the fark to keep then on the flat - no shwoing off. No need to try for fancy riding son.
     
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  40. Mister Tee on XC Skis

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    We should join forces :) .I plan to drive up to Myrtleford and stay at my friend's house on Thursday night after work , the night before Good Friday . The next day(Good Friday .) I plan to drive up to Geehi Flats and hike up to Moira's flat and camp there. Easter Sat.: Hike up to Wilkinson's Creek and camp there. Sunday hike out. Easter Monday drive home. With two cars a car shuttle could be achieved in order to avoid going down Hannel's spur.
     
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    Done deal @Mister Tee on XC Skis

    It’s going to be definitely me and probably son 17 yr old and possibly maybe also son 12 yr old - they’ll be up to it as they’ve done similar tough trips before.

    I’ll PM you.
     
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    I’ll miss the 35 km cycle from the top back to Geehi flat though. We might take our bikes in any case - at least freewheel down to Dead Horse Gap just for the hell of it.
     
  43. Mister Tee on XC Skis

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    Good Friday 2019 11 am Geehi Flats notice board. I will be there!.
     
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    Deal.

    If we leave your car and our bikes at the top and drive back down with my Hilux then we’d also be free to move at a different pace on the way up if needed.

    See you 11:00 at Geehi Flats Good Friday.

    Now it’s time for me to break out those runners and get some mileage so I can lift the fitness before then so the boys don’t end up having to carry me and my pack up from Moira’s.
     
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    I stumbled on this trip report just recently, and it brought back lots of memories and had me and my partner laughing. I sent Chaeron a PM describing our trip 19 years ago, and he suggested I add it to this thread.

    We hiked up Hannel's Spur 19 years ago at Easter, when we were younger and stupider :)
    It was the fourth time I had tried to find the start of the track. This time we found Dr. Forbes hut (if I remember its name correctly) after crossing the creek.
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    Then we managed to find a sign for the start of the track
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    We camped - just us - at Byatt's Camp - beautiful.
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    Next day was Easter Sunday. We walked up to Kozi, and it was a zoo!
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    We caught the chairlift down to Thredbo and stayed the night in the YHA.

    Then the adventure started, and this is what had us laughing in your post.
    It was Easter Monday, and I thought we could hitch hike from Thredbo back to the car parked at Geehi Flat. But there was virtually no traffic going our way, and the couple of cars that went past didn't stop. So I decided to hire a mountain bike, and ride back to the car. Grace would stay in the village, drinking coffee and reading the paper in a cafe.
    I slogged my way up to Dead Horse gap on a crappy old bike, then nearly froze to death flying down to Tom Groggin. A couple of km later I got a puncture. Like you, no repair kit!
    So I hid the bike in the bush by the side of the road, and tried to hitch again. Two cars went past, in about half an hour, and neither stopped. When a third car came, I stood in the middle of the road and forced it to stop. The bloke was suspicious, but after I told him my sob story, he reluctantly let me in the car. I got out at Geehi, drove back and found the bike, with an enornmous amount of difficulty squeezed it into our tiny car, drove back to Thredbo, returned the bike, and found Grace, who had had a wonderful day.
     
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    POW_hungry Part of the Furniture Moderator Ski Pass: Gold

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    Epic, but the bunting & crowds on Mt K. seem like a massive buzz kill.
    How long did it take you? 2 days hike?
     
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    A day from Geehi Flats to Byatts Camp. It was pre-bushfires and the track was reasonably clear and well defined, making walking a bit easier probably, although I think finding the start of the track was harder back then than these days. Compare our pic of Dr. Forbes hut with MR T's in his Easter trip report https://www.ski.com.au/xf/threads/k...orse-gap-april-19-21-2019.84452/#post-3881804 .
    A day from Byatts Camp to Thredo via Mt K. - but using the chairlift to get down. Like you say, the building works and the crowds on Mt. K. were a massive buzz kill, and feeling like we were back in "civilisation" made it easy to rationalise taking the chair down. Again, Mt T's easter trip shows things might be tidier at Mt. K. these days, but the crowds are just the same https://ski-forum.imgix.net/2019/04...a5a4c9fd0.JPG?w=1600&q=85&fit=max&auto=format
    A day for me to go and get the car at Geehi Flats and pick up Grace at Thredbo. Does that make it a 2 or a 3 day hike? :)

    I'd have to say if you are hoping to avoid massive crowds on Mt. K, definitely don't do this hike at Easter.
     
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    Whilst getting to the top of Kozzie via Hannels is a bit of a downer, from the point of view of everyone else being up there, I did actually think how wonderful it was that there was a subgroup of Australians , of varied fitness and body habitus, who were prepared to spend time walking up to the top of Kozzie, and getting away from normal life. I always try to find the positives in things! Whilst they did not achieve what we had achieved, they had no doubt fulfilled a personal goal, and this is fantastic . So much better than spending time watching TV!
     
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    When I was studying I helped out on a Toursim PhD's thesis. She was studying people's perception of KNP. Almost everyone who walked to Kosci, either on the road from CP or the metal walkway from Thredders felt they'd had a superb wilderness experience. I can't say I share their perception but who am I or any one else to tell them otherwise?
     
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    Certainly a much more positive concept than putting them down because they had not done it the hard way. Perhaps they will be inspired go further, if they have not already. My first time to the summit was inspiring but I have never done the boardwalk from the chairlift. The last time I came up from Dead Horse Gap to Cootapatamba hut and up to the summit from there. The view from the summit got me hooked on the mountains.
     
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