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Trip Report Heinz in Japan 2020

Discussion in 'Japan' started by Heinz, Feb 7, 2020.

  1. Heinz

    Heinz Old n' Crusty Ski Pass: Gold

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  2. Heinz

    Heinz Old n' Crusty Ski Pass: Gold

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  4. Heinz

    Heinz Old n' Crusty Ski Pass: Gold

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    ok, should be fixed now. It didn't show up any differently on my laptop.
     
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    Heinz Old n' Crusty Ski Pass: Gold

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    Lunch was also a bit of a throwback to years past. We have gotten used to seeing English on the food menus to make things easy. It wasn't always the case and similar today. No English, but still had pictures of what was available. I saw what looked like an Oyakodomburi - noted that it was Y900 and the associated kanji, then looked for the matching price and kanji on the ticket vending machine. Presented the ticket, got a number and waited for them to call the number out - in my case ni-ju-bahn (no. 20). Just like the old days. I go my Donburi although it was egg and beef on rice and Oyakodonburi I remember was meant to be chicken and egg (mother and son).

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  7. skifree

    skifree Sake? Thats like water but better, yes? Moderator Ski Pass: Gold

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    @Heinz the colour text thing also sometimes happens if you type up your report in say word or some other software and c&p into the post.
     
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    Tanuki A Local Ski Pass: Gold

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  9. Heinz

    Heinz Old n' Crusty Ski Pass: Gold

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    I think what happened was I had started that post then replied to a couple of other posts in the thread, so something may have been added unintentionally.
     
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    skifree Sake? Thats like water but better, yes? Moderator Ski Pass: Gold

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    Your punishment shall be to drink Japanese beer.
     
  11. Heinz

    Heinz Old n' Crusty Ski Pass: Gold

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    From yesterday
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    Heinz Old n' Crusty Ski Pass: Gold

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    Now add Toyama to that list - 11.
     
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    Heinz Old n' Crusty Ski Pass: Gold

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    Thu Feb 13 - Myoko Akakura Kanko & Onsen

    I have never previously been to Myoko, but on this trip passing through the region I thought I would have a look. Unfortunately I got it at a bad time.

    Seeing the forecast I had doubts about the day, but ended up going ahead. It was still raining lightly as I headed to Nagano station, but would soon start to clear. The early train was packed with office workers, school students, but most of them got off after the first 2 or 3 stops. Got to Myoko-Kogen station then caught the shuttle bus to Akakura shortly after and headed to Kanko. By that time it was quite sunny.

    Got a dual mountain pass - a step up in price from this week - at least the seniors pass was a good discount at Y4500.
    As expected saw plenty of Aussies and some Kiwis about, groups and families - it is popular.

    Caught the gondola up and had a few runs there. Unfortunately the snow was quite rain soaked and in the sun was now quite sticky. Steeper and shadier aspects were a bit better. Had one go at the ungroomed (bump) run at the top - not much fun - not much into bumps any more and especially not wet sticky ones. So once was enough.

    Headed over to Akakura onsen for a while seeing as I did get a dual pass and as expected much the same, probably worse on the flatter runs. Back to Kanko for a few more - skiing was ok and it was actually a nice warm day weatherwise (much better than forecast), but was finding it difficult to get too enthused by it. Decided to skip lunch, ski through to 2pm and get the early bus back to the station. Then train back to Nagano missing the afternoon crowd.
     
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  14. Heinz

    Heinz Old n' Crusty Ski Pass: Gold

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    Heinz Old n' Crusty Ski Pass: Gold

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    Heinz Old n' Crusty Ski Pass: Gold

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    Given current conditions I figure it's not worth the effort of day tripping to ski somewhere like yesterday, so will be just having a look around Nagano today.
     
  17. skifree

    skifree Sake? Thats like water but better, yes? Moderator Ski Pass: Gold

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    Kash Hard Yards

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    Great pics Heinz. Look at those terrible lift lines - think I ,might get an epic pass and go to Vail next year! LOL
     
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    Froff Life A Local Ski Pass: Gold

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    Loving the TR Heinz, shame you caught Myoko in one of the leanest Februarys on record.
     
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    MisterMxyzptlk Old n' Crusty Ski Pass: Gold

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    Have you had any decent snow?
    Some of the early pics look like decent stuff
    We got lucky in our 3 weeks mid/late Jan
    Pretty marginal(for Japan) first week at Niseko but regular powder over the next couple of weeks
    Such a skinny base though
     
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    blowfin One of Us Ski Pass: Silver

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    Zimbooo One of Us

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    Could even jump on a local train to Yudanaka or Iiyama for a stroll, onsen, feed etc.
     
  23. Heinz

    Heinz Old n' Crusty Ski Pass: Gold

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    Wandered down to Zenkoji this morning. Much more peaceful than when I visited in 1998 during the Olympics.
    Now jumped on a train to Matsumoto.
     
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    skifree Sake? Thats like water but better, yes? Moderator Ski Pass: Gold

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    I bet you can't wait to get here.

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  25. Heinz

    Heinz Old n' Crusty Ski Pass: Gold

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    Today actually worked out quite well. Early on walked down to Zenkoji temple. I did visit it back in 1998 during the Olympics but it was obviously much busier then and the American TV network NBC had set up base in their which I considered poor form.
    Today though it was very peaceful with just a couple of small tour groups.

    Then I had a look at the train timetables for Matsumoto and decided that was definitely doable. I got on the regular all stops commuter train which took around 75mins. There is an express but at double the cost and only about 20 mins quicker and I wasn't in a rush. Then its about a 15 min walk to the castle which is quite impressive. Did a lap around the outside then went into the keep - shoes off and some quite steep narrow steps. You wouldn't want to go wandering through there after a couple of Strong Zeros.

    Then stop off for a late lunch, a bit more of a wander before catching the train back to Nagano.
     
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  26. Heinz

    Heinz Old n' Crusty Ski Pass: Gold

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    Based on recommendation in another thread I picked up a couple of these (Oyaki - stuffed dumplings) from the shop by the station. I bought 2 and they gave me a bonus one.

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    Heinz Old n' Crusty Ski Pass: Gold

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    Also picked up another mochi icecream - Oishi!

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    Heinz Old n' Crusty Ski Pass: Gold

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    Heinz Old n' Crusty Ski Pass: Gold

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    Coming back from Zenkoji passed these places. Not sure if they are regular residences.

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    Heinz Old n' Crusty Ski Pass: Gold

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    Matsumoto castle

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    Heinz Old n' Crusty Ski Pass: Gold

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    Inside the keep

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    Heinz Old n' Crusty Ski Pass: Gold

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    Lunch - spicy tofu and fried rice

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    fennekeg One of Us Ski Pass: Silver

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    From what I understood they are temple lodgings and other buildings belonging to the temple complex. We went past a few with lovely courtyards
     
  34. skifree

    skifree Sake? Thats like water but better, yes? Moderator Ski Pass: Gold

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    You didn’t go to the clock museum?:(
     
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    Didn't have the time.
     
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    skifree Sake? Thats like water but better, yes? Moderator Ski Pass: Gold

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    Buy some in the gift shop.
     
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    Donzah Old n' Crusty Ski Pass: Gold

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    That's handy
     
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    skifree Sake? Thats like water but better, yes? Moderator Ski Pass: Gold

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    I’m disappointed @Heinz did’nt spring to it.
     
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    Donzah Old n' Crusty Ski Pass: Gold

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    It's apparent when you look at his face...

    Was outnumbered
     
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    Heinz Old n' Crusty Ski Pass: Gold

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    Now in Shiga Kogen. Had a good day skiing with @Sandy and @hipo.
     
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    skifree Sake? Thats like water but better, yes? Moderator Ski Pass: Gold

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    You’re just winding me up now.
     
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    Sandy Dark Sith Lord of the Pool Room Moderator Ski Pass: Gold

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    Yes, it was a good day!!!
     
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  43. Heinz

    Heinz Old n' Crusty Ski Pass: Gold

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    Sat Feb 15 Shiga Kogen

    Caught the 9:10 bus from Nagano to Shiga although for a while that was not a done deal. One thing I didn't count on was this being a Saturday there were many people with the same idea. I was there nearly half an hour before departure and already there was a long queue. Fortunately they ran a seconds bus which I go on. Then there was some issue with the type of ticket a group of Chinese tourists had which led to arguments and a 15 min hold up at the Snow Monkey park. But I eventually made it to Ichinose ok and was able to check in to hotel.

    Got my liftpass then met up with Sandy at Ichinose Diamond then basically just followed him around as we skied Ichinose over to Yakebitaiyama, Tanne no Mori etc. Most of the time I only had a vague where I was. Bits and pieces were vaguely familiar to me but 33 years since my last visit is a long time...

    Importantly the skiing was all good. None of the sticky snow I had a couple of days ago. Some bits were firmer and a bit crunchy but nothing bad. We did though have to negotiate several groups of minions (borrowing term from @Hyst especially when they were standing across a narrow trail. They seemed to be everywhere.
     
  44. Heinz

    Heinz Old n' Crusty Ski Pass: Gold

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    Various views around Shiga

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    Heinz Old n' Crusty Ski Pass: Gold

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    After a week and a bit of staying in various almost identical business hotels and commuting by train/bus it is a completely different feel here. I have a room with lots of space, ski lift is across the road. The hotel is particularly busy today being Saturday.
     
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    Not my invention - borrowed it from someone else on here :whistle:- sorry don't remember who, but credit to the Unknown.:thumbs:
     
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    Heinz Old n' Crusty Ski Pass: Gold

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    Sun Feb 16 Shiga Kogen

    This ended up being a surprisingly great day. Our weather guru @Sandy suggested rain was on the way so we should make a early start and get what we could in before it hit. We moved initially over to Yakebitaiyama to get away from the few drops we had a Ichinose and that worked well until the wind started to pick up and also come in gusts so they closed a couple of the gondolas. So we came back to Takamagahara where we were still just getting these periods of droplets of various sizes falling, but it was so light we never got wet apart a little bit from the wet seats.

    Then we thought we would have a look a Terakoya being a bit higher and colder (I also started to recall this run more from before). We kept looking in the distance over Hakuba & Myoko at the approaching dark clouds and figured it would hit us soon, so we kept skiing while we could. Some of the guys did stop for lunch but the rest of us had another 6 runs on Terakoya. And still the 'rain' stayed the same - odd droplets. And by then the cloud in the distance had even backed off a bit.

    Still we figured it was time to return closer to home for a few runs on Family along with the minions, before a couple of us stopped for a rather late lunch. Finished up with a few more runs on Diamond where they had removed the race gates, so that was also very good. The 'rain' at this stage was slightly more persistent, so we were happy to call it a day. We had got in far more skiing than we had expected at the start of the day and it was all good. Snow was in great shape all day. The droplets we had did not have any real effect.

    Feeling a little sore now though.
     
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    Heinz Old n' Crusty Ski Pass: Gold

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    with conditions as they were it wasn't really a photo taking day. But I did take this one.

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    I would've given it socks rather than goggles
     
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    Remember to taste the different Shiga Kogen Beers.
    (Produced in Shibu Onsen)

    I do my best somewhere else. :confused:
     
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