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Discussion in 'Hotham & Dinner Plain' started by Richard, May 9, 2018.
Hotham trying, long way to go, fingers crossed.
Not looking good...
Came up this morning for a look around, summit has abit more coverage but nothing worth going down.
No lifts spinning and runs are closed
New car handled the drive up no issue and roof racks etc are fine.
Car has gone off the GAR this morning and down a 10m embankment.
Gee hope occupants are OK ?
My 2 cents:
Have had my scariest slides on the Hoth-Harry Rd. These I tend to go via Omeo in winter - especially at night/ fresh snow - even with all wheeler. And from the SE subs, it's only an hour or so more driving for less stress.
seems they've both been rescued from the vehicle and Air Ambulance has been dispatched. Sounds like they are okay.
Omeo's always worth it if there's the potential of heavy snow and road closures or convoys. The Harrietville approach is nowhere as big and nasty as is made out but unfortunately too many folks over estimate the abilities of their vehicle and their own driving abilities.
Yes agree - its certain conditions, icy, suv downhill no chains. Breaking can be almost impossible even < 20 K. And yet a km down rd its fine.
Drive to the conditions and your skill, let over people past who are behind you.
It’s pretty simple to drive safely in icey and snowy conditions the problem I believe is that Australian drivers are so infrequently driving in poor conditions they have no idea how to deal with mountain passes.
I hope every one in that car that went off isnokay and they love to tell the story and hopefully don’t make the same mistakes again.
Both finished up in hospital with really serious injuries. Both experienced drivers, at least one a long term snow clearer at Falls and Hotham. From reports the car went off in the vicinity of Big D.
I was at Hotham on Tuesday, saw said vehicle and thought WTF.
Who's funding that failure?
Mmm, I wouldn't have said near Big D was the worst bit of road. Better there than off the summit or Baldy etc...?
thanks for the further info. doesn't sound good at all, hope they pull through!!!
I've seen cars off near the police station all the time. I suspect it's more a case of folks relaxing on the comparatively flatter and less intimidating section of the road through the village and not paying quite enough attention. easy to pick up just that little bit too much speed along that section and bang you're in trouble.
....and experienced drivers are not immune to **** ups.
So coming down the hill and going straight off at the right hander before McColls?
Not sure of direction, but down Mc Colls.
Some roadside snatching going on past wire plain. Maybe next time don't drive into 50cm of fresh on boggy grass
An icy road surface is not always the cause of the problems on the GAR, deep snow slush can easily turn a driver into a passenger.
On a wet country road hydroplaning or aquaplaning is dangerous, slush planing that can occur when driving on wet soft snow on alpine roads is even more dangerous. Slush planing occurs because the tyre loses contact with the road and you can not steer, or brake, the vehicle. The combination of deep slushy melting snow, a layer of water on the road surface, and possibly ice can make driving extremely dangerous, even for the most experienced driver.
It is important to have tyres with the proper tread pattern, design, depth and properties to suit these types of road/weather conditions. When there is deep snow slush on the road, and the driving speed exceeds a certain limit, the tread pattern of the tyre may no longer pushes aside the slush and water from underneath the tyre. The contact between the tyre and the road will be lost, and so will the grip.
This video may help to explain………..
Glorious afternoon today. Especially after a well earned sleep in! Unrideable crust off piste. Cruisy wander thru the xc area to enjoy the sun and views. Really want to ski off basalt temple as shown in the centre of the pic below
Hmmmm crust is fun @tcross
Yesterday was too beautiful, took a million photos. Groomers skiing as good as I’ve ever seen for June!
beautiful. what a start
yep, resorts must dream of starts like this.
great looking snow, though
That is not a bad idea. I am planning a JB hut snow camp/XC ski weekend in August. It could be less drama coming from Bairnsdale and via Omeo.
I tend to go when the road and weather are at their worst so Omeo usually.
They close the other way in at the front of a hat these days. Bugger missing the very reason I go because of closes!
Rule of thumb.
If snowing, Omeo.
If not, Harrietville
The snow cam. on Dinner Plain has a green season image. There must be snow there now!
Keeps all the riff raff away Mr T.
....think Iceland not Greenland!! (/:-/)
Awesome weekend up at Hotham.
Snow coverage for this time of year is unprecedented. As you can see not that busy..
There is a good 70cm of snow around (more where there is snow making) but there is no base where there hasn’t been grooming. So lots of holes off piste and any of the runs without snow making you need to take extra care. But with hardly anyone around there’s no need to venture that far..
It’s been cold overnight and during the day.
Snow quality on Saturday was excellent. On Sunday was a bit firmer but Imagine, Black Snake still skiing really well.
Would be an awesome week to be up there. It was very hard to leave this afternoon...
They haven’t had any snow in a week..
It's all been groomed.
We've been looping the top to Davenport Access Trail for the last three days.
told today another fifteen centimeters, and it's open.
The drift is also groomed, and ready to go.
Wow! They must be making a metric shit tonne of snow!
No snow making at Blue Ribbon...... All natural.
So they’ve just been pushing it around?
I think its either sydharbs or mcgs or olympic swimming pools @mick chopps ......but yeah i canna believe blue ribs open in june!
Are you doing the season up there this year @stansi
No, weekend warrior.
Im dreamin of a season. It might take some time!
Would barely set foot inside the resort if I did a season!
Likewise. Although we have so many days here where off-piste is pretty sketchy....so ill say 3/7 in bounds or slack, rest of the time all those other areas i look at. Ah, time
Would it be limited runs in BR? I can't see them having all the trails open with the limited coverage down low
just the groomed stuff I'd imagine. Varsity, Hoggs Back.
Pretty good for June!
Amazing for June..
To think they had nothing 2 weeks ago to this...
unbelievable for June. I've seen 1m+ snowpack in mid August and they can't get it open. Must've had a shed load of snow blow in there last week when the storm switched southerly.