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Advice needed How do you get to your backcountry destination?

Discussion in 'Backcountry' started by Ricardo64, Apr 11, 2020.

  1. dawooduck

    dawooduck relaxed and comfortable Ski Pass: Gold

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    Do they use HG Holden as the training vehicle ?
     
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  2. Ziggy

    Ziggy A Local Ski Pass: Gold

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    For 2WD at a guess the skid pan would be the closest you'd get and that'd be fine.
    For 4WD in Vic I've seen snow courses advertised once or twice.
     
  3. Goski

    Goski One of Us Ski Pass: Silver

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    My brother had a Niva. When we could get it to start it drove and handled like a tractor and at 100kph it got a bit scary. Hard to come by? I reckon they either rusted away or crashed or fell to bits. Chock full of "character".
     
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  4. Untele-whippet

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    Russian beekeeper neighbour has a couple of Ladas in various states of undress in his yard.
     
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    Myazma One of Us Ski Pass: Gold

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    I did a defensive snow driving course for driving the school bus when working at Monaro high. We tagged on with Snowy Hydro who organised it. Practical was done on a big snow day from the Pilot down to Leatherbarrel.
     
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  6. Belly

    Belly A Local Ski Pass: Gold

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    The problem for Melbourne'ites is balancing the need for a reasonably city friendly vehicle with Vic BC access needs. CCG being the obvious candidate.
     
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  7. GS

    GS Part of the Furniture Ski Pass: Gold

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    The do anything vehicle

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  8. Ziggy

    Ziggy A Local Ski Pass: Gold

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  9. Ziggy

    Ziggy A Local Ski Pass: Gold

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    Specialising in pirouettes on icy roads.
     
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  10. telecrag

    telecrag Old n' Crusty Ski Pass: Gold

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    This might be me again this season, used to do it a fair bit!
     
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  11. GS

    GS Part of the Furniture Ski Pass: Gold

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    The Porsche version had enough power to do the same on bitumen, apparently :)
     
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  12. Ziggy

    Ziggy A Local Ski Pass: Gold

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    Yeah?
    Tips?
     
  13. chriscross

    chriscross One of Us Ski Pass: Gold

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    Good for bc fitness up FC or Hotham road.
     
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  14. telecrag

    telecrag Old n' Crusty Ski Pass: Gold

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    Ski to bike, one either side, never carry them on the pack. Depending how far you want to get in (we used to ride in from locked gates all over the place) and the terrain, as in, if there is a long section under snow, its fun for a bit, but gets old real quick, so you end up ditching the bikes and walking the next snowless section at some point. Depending on the road etc of course.

    Did it heaps in the Brindies, back when we had snow.
     
  15. Sage Oya

    Sage Oya Like the herb, lover of Pabst, cup ramen devotee Ski Pass: Gold

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    Nice to see the zooks getting some love in this thread. We loved ours dearly and it took us everywhere albeit very slowly.

    Upgrade to a new Pajero which is super lux by comparison but doesn’t quite have the same charm as a Sierra though :love:

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  16. TheFake

    TheFake One of Us

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    Can't really go past the classic yota.
    Except in deep water.
    They float.

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  17. Ziggy

    Ziggy A Local Ski Pass: Gold

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    Someone - Kinnear, Stuart Kinnear? - regularly rides the Fainter Firetrail to ski the Fainters.
    It'd be shorter.
     
  18. chriscross

    chriscross One of Us Ski Pass: Gold

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    Keen. Love to get out there one day, but not on a bike.
     
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    coolair One of Us Ski Pass: Gold

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    coolair One of Us Ski Pass: Gold

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    Another zook fan from many years ago mabe
    1983, great vehicle for the price.
     
  21. Mister Tee on XC Skis

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    That looks like the road to Mt.Buller and Mt. Stirling with Mt.Timbertop in the distance too. When Mt. Timbertop is covered in snow then you know it is case of GAME ON !
     
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  22. Mister Tee on XC Skis

    Mister Tee on XC Skis A Local Ski Pass: Gold Ski Pass: Silver

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    I thought the same too:"That looks like Guthega".
     
  23. NeoSamurai

    NeoSamurai One of Us Ski Pass: Gold

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    The only purpose of the Lada's rear window de-fogger is to keep your hands warm as you push the damn thing to the mechanic - again...
     
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  24. Mister Tee on XC Skis

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    Just like my car is :-( but under the bonnet I know it can still deliver me from the wilderness.
     
  25. Mister Tee on XC Skis

    Mister Tee on XC Skis A Local Ski Pass: Gold Ski Pass: Silver

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    When you lose it on black ice on the Falls Creek road only one person can get you back in control. Having AWD, All Terrain tyres and the required skills certainly help. Driving more than 35 KPH in some sections of that road can be diabolical, even in low gear .
     
  26. CarveMan

    CarveMan Pool Room Ski Pass: Gold

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    CG's first car was a Sierra, for many years it lived at the base of Buller and we would swap in to it to drive up the hill, meant we could drive non-4WDs in the city which was a great plan for a long time until we succumbed to the SUV. It's now living out it's years on a Mansfield farm.
    Do it on an ebike.
     
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  27. Mister Tee on XC Skis

    Mister Tee on XC Skis A Local Ski Pass: Gold Ski Pass: Silver

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    I am planning to trek out to the Fainters from Big Hill Lookout in August. If Dan the Man allows us to leave Melb. then I am there , I have left , I cannot hear you ! ;-P. Yes a bicycle could be quicker but it could be better to just slog it up there and set up a snow camp at Bogong jack saddle and then day tour on BC XC skis from there.
     
  28. NeoSamurai

    NeoSamurai One of Us Ski Pass: Gold

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    If I retrace my steps I can probably find it.
    I had a ride on a friends Stealth Bomber B52 electric bike the other day. That thing goes like stink! Got it up to 84kmh on the flat and apparently has a peak output of 6000+ watts! Crazy stuff.
     
  29. mx_boarder

    mx_boarder Habitual line stepper Ski Pass: Gold

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  30. Kletterer

    Kletterer Thredbo Doughnut Tragic Moderator

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    Fecking water in my diesel tonight. Cant unscrew the drainage plug, expletives flying and sore fingertips trying to reach a tight spot. Removing the whole shebang can wait until tomorow. Time for a wine .
     
  31. skifree

    skifree A disciple of the blessed avi giraffe Moderator Ski Pass: Gold

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    Jacko4650 One of Us Ski Pass: Silver

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    Yes, well worth it. It may save your life too. The other driving course that is valuable is a Rally Driving course, where you get to drive in slippery conditions in Rear wheel drive, front wheel drive, 4WD and then fully pumped 4WD.
     
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    Jacko4650 One of Us Ski Pass: Silver

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    Yes, wine a good idea!
     
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    nfip Cold n' Rusty Ski Pass: Gold

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    VC Valiant Safari wagon.
    Guthega road '81 , chains required from Wilsons Valley.
    pfft !
    is the stuff of legend. :D
     
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    sidetrack One of Us

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    If you want something small and cheap the new Jimny would be hard to beat. Personally I will stick to my stretch wanna be big Ute with a winch etc etc
     
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  36. Untele-whippet

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    Ski in / Ski out
     
  37. skifree

    skifree A disciple of the blessed avi giraffe Moderator Ski Pass: Gold

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    Cascade Trailhead?
     
  38. Untele-whippet

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    Yes
     
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    tcornall Hard Yards

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  40. Ricardo64

    Ricardo64 Addicted Ski Pass: Gold

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    any thoughts of the Audi Allroad ?
     
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    Do you know if this year model has a timing belt or a timing chain? I believe all new Subarus have done away with timing belts aside from STIs. I'm keen on getting a secondhand XT manual, but was hoping to get one with a chain to reduce risk of catastrophic engine failure and to save on servicing costs.
     
  42. CarveMan

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    Not specifically apart from the fact that I wish there were more lifted station wagons out there, much better body shape than an SUV.
     
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    I have an old boxy 2002 Honda CRV (2.4 litre vtec) which has done over 280K and is still going strong. It's super roomy and quite capable on fire trails but doesn't have low-range unfortunately. I'll be sad to see her go when I finally upgrade around the 300k mark.
     
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  44. Mister Tee on XC Skis

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    When My 2003 RAV 4 hits 300,000 km I will get a Toyota Prado 2nd hand.
     
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    The Audi Allroad has adaptive suspension lift

    I too am not a big fan of SUV or 4WD as i would spend probably 95% city / road driving with maybe 5% snow offroad driving so reality prevails, how do you justify a 100K 4WD driving around the city :rolleyes::confused:
     
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    CarveMan Pool Room Ski Pass: Gold

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    Buller permit requires 185mm clearance, rules out a lot of vehicles.
     
  47. Ricardo64

    Ricardo64 Addicted Ski Pass: Gold

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    So Just a quick update!!!
    I bit the proverbial bullet and went and bought a 2008 Subaru XT Forester, yes it is petrol. Thanks for all the advice everyone.
     
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    Nice! Manual or auto?
     
  49. Mister Tee on XC Skis

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    Get all terrain tyres for it.
     
  50. Ricardo64

    Ricardo64 Addicted Ski Pass: Gold

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    Really !! is that a real question? It's a MANUAL !!!

    I am planning on a light bar and a spare set of rims for all terrain tyres..

    but I feel like I have all the time in the world and fearful that we may miss out on a season in ISO 2.0
     
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