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Opinion If you don’t love skiing 200 foot hills, you don’t love skiing.

Discussion in 'Snow Talk' started by Ozgirl, Sep 4, 2020.

  1. Ozgirl

    Ozgirl Part of the Furniture Ski Pass: Gold

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    CarveMan Pool Room Ski Pass: Gold

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    Yeah I’m on that train of thought. Good skiers come out of small hills too.
     
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  3. Rick Ross Da Boss

    Rick Ross Da Boss One of Us Ski Pass: Silver

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    Apart from the season pass price sounds like OZ.... and boy I love it :cool:
     
  4. Ozgirl

    Ozgirl Part of the Furniture Ski Pass: Gold

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    I'm surprised more Olympians haven't come out of Cabra!
     
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    CarveMan Pool Room Ski Pass: Gold

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    skifree A disciple of the blessed avi giraffe Moderator Ski Pass: Gold

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  7. TOFF

    TOFF Im not the messiah Ski Pass: Gold

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    Right now I would love to be able to ski a 20 metre hill.
     
  8. Donzah

    Donzah Pool Room Ski Pass: Gold

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    Comparable. Kelly Slater came from surfing Florida.
     
  9. plink01

    plink01 Hard Yards

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    Yeah I'm pretty much on board with all that. Sort of the same way I think about Aus snow.

    If you can ski on rock hard boiler plate ice here or an after lunch spring slush fest then you should have no dramas when going somewhere overseas where the conditions are awesome. My theory is it tuffens you up and it makes those overseas trips that much sweeter.

    I hate all the complaining that goes on in an Aus ski resort. No shit this isnt as good as your last trip to Canada, but we are in one of the hottest countries on earth, we are lucky to have any snow!
     
  10. piolet

    piolet Better make it three Ski Pass: Gold

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    Nothing to do but run gates on firm snow ya gunna get some good racers

    And?

    I love skiing
    I love mountains more
     
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  11. Rick Ross Da Boss

    Rick Ross Da Boss One of Us Ski Pass: Silver

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    Have to say, first year skiing japan after years of oz conditions I found it tough going in the powder LOLLOL
     
  12. Chaeron

    Chaeron Ski-Hike-Blade-Bike-Kayak Ski Pass: Gold

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    I learnt to ski in Japan - boy, was Oz snow a shock!

    The first run I skied in Oz was The Knolls (Summit lift) - I though all Oz skiing was like that.....not flat

    First time at Falls I didn’t even realise there was another side of the mountain - I thought that was it...

    Live and learn....
     
  13. Rick Ross Da Boss

    Rick Ross Da Boss One of Us Ski Pass: Silver

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    Haha many people think that falls only has one side..flat...;)
     
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  14. piolet

    piolet Better make it three Ski Pass: Gold

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    Yeah well the glacier is a well guarded secret
     
  15. skifree

    skifree A disciple of the blessed avi giraffe Moderator Ski Pass: Gold

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    Ssshhhh
     
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    Sbooker One of Us Ski Pass: Gold

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    I’m no great skier but I’ve skied some iconic hills - Snowbird, Whistler, Niseko, Cham, Marmolada, Aspen, Hintertux, Jackson etc but some of my best memories are at lowly Thredbo.
    I’ll take any day on skis.
     
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  17. Ozgirl

    Ozgirl Part of the Furniture Ski Pass: Gold

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    This!

    I think my favorite day ever will be Selwyn when PG.
     
  18. LMB

    LMB Old but definitely not Crusty! Ski Pass: Gold

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    I’d take some crushed ice inside a sloping warehouse of cool room panels LOL Especially if I could rig up a practice box in it.
     
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    skifree A disciple of the blessed avi giraffe Moderator Ski Pass: Gold

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    Surely you have access to a cool room?
     
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    dawooduck relaxed and comfortable Ski Pass: Gold

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    You may or may not notice that whilst starting and training on small hills is a common theme for many skiers they do tend to move on to bigger hills

    Stay safe people
     
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  21. Chowder11

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    A lot of the best park rats are from small hills because they spend so much time in the park as there isn’t much terrain to ski.
    Aka Tom Wallish is from a small hill near Pittsburgh
     
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  22. Sandy

    Sandy Dark Sith Lord of the Pool Room Moderator Ski Pass: Gold

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    Some of the best skiing in Japan is on small ski hills with only 1-2 lifts and only 10-20 people.... and some of the best powder.
     
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    LMB Old but definitely not Crusty! Ski Pass: Gold

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    Yeah sure, but what to do about the apples and carrots :p
     
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    Annabuzzy Part of the Furniture Ski Pass: Gold

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    I’ll ski laps of the Basin or Friday Flat at Thredbo if that’s all that’s open. Maybe only for an hour or two but it’s better than not skiing
     
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  25. skifree

    skifree A disciple of the blessed avi giraffe Moderator Ski Pass: Gold

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    Excellent, riding mountains of apples and carrots, keep those edges sharp and you are marking one of those pre-prepared products.
     
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    MarzNC One of Us Ski Pass: Gold

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    While I had a good time skiing powder in the trees at Steamboat in Feb 2020, the blue sky untracked powder turns I got a Howelsen Hill a couple days later were just as fun. Total vertical is 440 feet. It's a historic hill owned by the town. One chairlift that only runs on weekends. We had to use the poma, which has a pretty steep section. A beginner was having some real trouble just loading. Her boyfriend make the mistake of going up first.

    Howelsen Hill in Steamboat Spring, CO
    Hut is at the summit


    Steamboat in the distance
     
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    BoofHead One of Us Ski Pass: Silver

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    MarzNC One of Us Ski Pass: Gold

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    The article mentions Afton Alps with 300 acres and 300 ft. My home hill is Massanutten, which has 1100 ft vertical but only 75 acres. The season is from mid-Dec to early March. It's a lot warmer in Virginia than Minnesota. Do I have fun at Massanutten? You bet! It was a great place for my daughter to learn enough from ages 4-6 to then ski blue runs at Alta during her first trip. A big advantage in the southeast that while it's cold enough for snowmaking, it's rarely colder than 30ºF during the day during the winter. That's great for beginners of all ages.

    Take a look at the list of places in the east and midwest on the Indy Pass. I think a lot of people are going to be checking them out during the upcoming winter because they are close to home. Indy is only US$199 and that provides 2 days at 55 locations across the U.S. This is the second season for Indy.
     
  29. CarveMan

    CarveMan Pool Room Ski Pass: Gold

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    Yep and when there’s no cool terrain to shred, working on technique and slapping plastic / hitting the park is the fun thing to do.

    I’ve got a mate who is an absolutely superb skier, he’d be one of the best if not the best skier on Buller patrol, but had only skied in Australia until he was about 30. Dude spent all his cash on hotting up cars instead of travel.

    One year when I was working in Utah he came across with a bunch of fellow patrollers, I took some time off and went up to Jackson / Targhee with them, you could see the look on his face when he realised that was what he had been practicing for all his life, and off he went, was in no way out of his depth, skied it better than the rest of the group who had spend half their lives skiing in the Northern Hemi, cos he was a better technical skier than them and the terrain just gave him the opportunity to show it off!
     
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  30. Belly

    Belly A Local Ski Pass: Gold

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    I've got great Baw Baw memories.
     
  31. MarzNC

    MarzNC One of Us Ski Pass: Gold

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    I didn't start to take lessons in a serious way until a knee injury around age 55 (unrelated to skiing). What I discovered was that to learn and ingrain good fundamentals based on working with a really experienced instructor, there was more than enough terrain at Massanutten. The 6 available trails take 2-3 min to finish. Meaning when making lots of turns. The lift rides are 5-7 min long.

    My regular instructor was an older man who had mostly skied at small hills in VA and WV. He just practiced and practiced and practiced on those short runs, so that he was PSIA Level 3 and had been for quite a while. I actually have more fun at Massanutten now than 10 years ago because I can do more with the terrain than just get to the bottom for another lift ride. The time spent there has definitely made it more fun at big mountains in the Rockies.
     
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    piolet Better make it three Ski Pass: Gold

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    That depends on lift ticket prices
     
  33. Ozgirl

    Ozgirl Part of the Furniture Ski Pass: Gold

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    How many Olympians call Thredbo their home mountain?
     
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    dawooduck relaxed and comfortable Ski Pass: Gold

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    Two that I know of
     
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    dawooduck relaxed and comfortable Ski Pass: Gold

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    Guthega, make every turn count.
     
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  36. Ozgirl

    Ozgirl Part of the Furniture Ski Pass: Gold

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    Yep only two!!!

    Way more from other resorts!
     
  37. Legs Akimbo

    Legs Akimbo Grumblebum Ski Pass: Gold

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    There are a gazillion POFOs, though.
     
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  38. LMB

    LMB Old but definitely not Crusty! Ski Pass: Gold

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    LOL
     
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    robbo mcs One of Us Ski Pass: Gold

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    Here is one;) Pic is from Whistler 2010. To be fair, the list of all Australian winter olympic skiiers is not hugely long:rolleyes:

     
  40. Ozgirl

    Ozgirl Part of the Furniture Ski Pass: Gold

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    Never said 'skiers' just winter Olympians!
     
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    skifree A disciple of the blessed avi giraffe Moderator Ski Pass: Gold

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    Winter Ollys get more meaningless each time round. The events get stranger & stranger and/or techniques weirder. They are less and less relevant except if you are the right side of the gravy train.:(
     
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    Good article, a reminder for MTB and SCUBA among other things. I sure love going to those destinations that are awesome, but there's fun to be found every week somewhere near home, that might be a bit rugged, slightly less scenic, but means that you're out there, and more exciting when you find a nice turn or fish. Hone the skills, and appreciate the small things
     
  43. climberman

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    Kelly Slater is from Florida.
     
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    Ha, Snap.
    A really, really slow snap!
     
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    I hope you aren't counting Torah in that tally. Would be a bit rough to count a half pipe Olympian when Thredbo doesn't even have one she only swung over to Thredbo after she finished competing. And the pile of cash they threw her way had something to do with it too.
     
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    Is there a point you are trying to make ?

    Every resort in Australia is a "small hill".
     
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    Were the two I was thinking of
     
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    There are many more ranging from Frank Prihoda to Dave Griff and Kim Clifford, and Jono Brauer. There is a list on the wall of the TSRC. There are quite a few more.
     
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  49. Ozgirl

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    Or the fact she was dating her now husband who was in the marketing team at the time of her signing and she has gone on the record lying her first runs were at Selwyn.
     
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    skichanger A Local Ski Pass: Gold

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    I know at least 8 that call Perisher their home mountain. And there are a couple of others I would have to check.
     
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