Advice needed I'm depressed

Discussion in 'Backcountry' started by Moondog55, Jul 9, 2017.

  1. Marty_McSly

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    What sort of dealer?
     
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    Ski wholesaler on drugs.............aren't they all!!LOL
    Seriously.......was a car dealer on drugs!!! LOL
     
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    Did somebody mention Jindabyne ?

    Oh sorry we misunderstood the prior posts.
     
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    A nice story to cheer Moondog up!
    Aquatherapy"
     
  5. Mister Tee on snow shoes

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    If that is a Victorian beach in winter then there is built in family planning at no extra cost included. ;-P .
     
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    A surf rescue in US. Undertow threatened a group of folk ....so many folk made a human chain and successfully saved folk over a hour or so....amazing work....
     
  7. Moondog55

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    I just came back from 2hours + power walking in the pool, much warmer than the local beaches.
    Steve it's good to know that people do still help each other when in trouble
     
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  8. Mister Tee on snow shoes

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    If you can walk in water then you can swim. I swim 2.5 kms in a 50 m. outdoor heated pool twice a week. Only death will stop me from doing that!
     
  9. Moondog55

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    I can't swim, My ear drums are perforated and I dare not get water in them
     
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    Blutac. Cheap. Works well. Swim.
     
  11. Moondog55

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    I've just spent 3 months getting rid of an incorrigable fungal + ear infection, if my ENT specialist says "No swimming" I am not swimming, I hated being deaf and don't want a repetition
     
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    I was just started thinking of a place I've been to, well known for pho, coffee and .....

    Always manage to forget things for a while.
     
  14. Peagreenboat

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    Aw, Moondog. It is really sucky not being able to get out into the snow and backcountry. I know that feeling as I spend all year looking forward to skiing and so far have not been able to get there. When my friends bailed on me this Thursday, I must say I shed a few tears at work. People who haven't come face up to living with the circling shark of cancer probably don't understand the kind of desperation that comes from knowing that things can turn downhill fast (and not in the skiing kind of way): so in some ways when it comes to accepting pain and crazy mood swings I mostly accept it and keep breathing but when it comes to skiing I'm really impatient and want it NOW! Saying that, I must say I got to sit in the sun yesterday by the water and I did think why the .... would I want to be in the freezing cold. Ah, we all know. Has anyone offered yet to stick you on a sled and at least hoik you as far as a tent?
     
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  15. Moondog55

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    Next year with new hips I'll be fine. Meanwhile i'll just take my medication and enjoy the buzz
     
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    And do what DSNS suggested early on.
     
  17. Moondog55

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    Ah Come-on now; the only pleasure I get in life at the moment is making the rest of you miserable.
    Besides; having a whinge is very theraputic and these pages are so much cheaper than a licensed shrink.
    Actually I have pulled the sewing machine out and I amworking on stuff.. Made a synthetic half bag for emergency use already. Sewn up liners for the old woollen battle dress I'll be taking to Aaska and Canada for the hot tent snowshoeing trip in a couple of years, I'll do the double knees on the BD soon then do the Nikwax thing with the woollies.
    Now that I have a decent pain medication solution things are a tad easier.
    Again "Thanx Fellers and Fellerettes"
     
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  18. BillyKidd

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    New hips! You'll be like a new man! The skiing is something to look forward to :D
     
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  19. teckel

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    Hang in there, hun :) :hugs:
     
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  20. Sydlouise

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    I feel your pain, I missed last ski season stuck at home in a wheelchair (literally, I couldn't get outside because of stairs) bored out of my mind not knowing if skiing again was an achievable goal, in retrospect I was probably initially quite depressed without realising it having this massively abrupt change from adventures every weekend to staring at a wall. I'm not much of a tv or gaming person but gave both a go without much enthusiasm. For me the best thing was to just avoid anything to do with skiing, I made my partner hide our ski display out of sight in the garage and unsubscribed from the dozens of facebook pages putting snow things all over my feed.

    I like a project so initially I'd been happy occupying myself planning a ski trip to Iran for Feb but when I realised I wasn't going to be physically able to do that I figured it was time to man up and buy my first house. That kept me occupied for monthhssss. Maybe a tafe or uni course might provide similar mental occupation with an end goal. My work was accommodating in giving me access to work from home as well which kept me busy although unfortunately I often ended up working 7 days a week because work and personal time blended into one big mess, moreso than usual.

    I found a new unexpected appreciation for art and history and wheeled myself around any museum or gallery I could get to. I had an awkward wheelchair work trip to Tasmania and experimented with modern art and endone- winning combination, highly recommended. I was so out of the skiing mindset that when winter came around I was quite surprised, like I'd forgotten how I used to spend my weekends.

    Now I'm 13 months on and starting to ski again with 12 days clocked up so far, its depressing being back on green runs doing short painful days and not able to ski with my friends who I see ripping around (I refuse to let them do pity runs with me). But I like looking at dashboard at the end of each day and seeing the vertical metres improve bit by bit.

    I've also got a better set of snowkites on loan for the season and super keen to get out in the backcountry again soon but nervous I'll strand myself too sore to skin back to base. That's my immediate goal at the moment I keep changing my mind if its a good idea or not depending on how successful my ski day has been.

    Plus I've set my sights on Park City in March next year. Whenever I'm ready to give up for the day I think about the fact they have 6 halfpipes and do one more run. I think I've probably already ticked over to the way too old to learn halfpipe category but hey, dream big!

    Keep plodding- it does get better!
     
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    Do they do a quarter pipe for beginners??
     
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  22. Sydlouise

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    Could well do! Maybe I should try that first before I break my leg again.
     
  23. JoeKing

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    Go on. Break a leg!

    :out:
     
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  24. Mister Tee on snow shoes

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    I crashed my bike and I am not allowed to swim laps until the wounds heal. I can still walk so I can still snow shoe!.
     
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    Easy as falling off a bike.
     
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    That bend was treacherous. Why did I ride down there?
     
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    I saw a new Physiotherapist today as part of the clinic.
    New stretches to do that seem to be helping a lot, but some bits of me that I never knew I had hurt like the bejezas after all the prodding,poking and manipulations
     
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    Because it was there???? o_O
     
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  29. BrianWilson

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    Great words of wisdom @Sydlouise :)

    I came off my road bike 11 weeks ago breaking my collarbone in what seemed a pretty simple break. No other injuries, no surgery required and what I thought to be a 6-8 week recovery. This included staying at home watching the walls for a week (there is only so much tv you can watch), no driving for 6 weeks (relying on public transport - have you ever felt like a lemming on a conveyor belt?), and worst of all no riding or any other sport.

    Turns out I'm a slow healer and I have an x-ray this week that will hopefully clear me to resume normal activities. When I went in for my 8 week check up and was told it would be another 4 weeks I was seriously bummed! Hard to get motivated after that news. I found that talking to others, basically displacement therapy, worked for me. Helped lighten the load and kept things as positive as possible. Not that I haven't been counting down the days ;)

    So keep at it. When you are feeling down, talk to anyone that is willing to lend an ear:thumbs: As this thread has proved, there are people going through similar issues and lots of people ready to provide support and words of encouragement.
     
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  30. Mister Tee on snow shoes

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    I am counting the days until I given the green light to swim laps again!
     
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    I was back on the bike today so at least I can get some sun and exercise that way . The bike took less time to be mended than I have.
     
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    Having these wound dressings on my knees and elbows is real nuisance!
     
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    First time in the pool in 5 months. :woohoo:
    Mostly walking, but a few tentative laps too, and a lovely soak in the spa. Will try to do weekly till the local pool opens in Nov.
     
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    Yeah, and you can't hurry the process (you don't want infections etc). But as soon as viable (ie: scab is dry or near to it, or stiches out etc) you can use Vit E oil - it helps joint wounds heal up nicely and tends to prevent cracking and what have you.

    http://www.chemistwarehouse.com.au/buy/31496/Invite-E-Vitamin-E-Pure-Oil-30ml
     
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    I think I've been in the doldrums this year, finding it harder getting by just in everyday expenses, without factoring any indulgences in. Since early last year some traumas in my mind resurfaced a bit and unsettled me a hell of a lot, which mean occasional breaks from being on the wagon. I'm looking forward to a snow trip or two doing free camping, and lending a hand to a social campaign in the Yarra council area on an issue of importance to the community, and me directly. I had a legal case that's mostly gone in my favour recently, but it had caused me lot of anxiety.
     
  36. BillyKidd

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    A good bit of skiing is ideal for reducing anxiety and all manner of ills.....Dr BK prescribes immediate snow exposure!
     
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    I'm exposing myself right now!
     
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    I'd like to get away a lot more, have been busy with personal matters needing my attention its driving me mad only got to catch up with a friend in Melbourne last month for a day and eat at Abbotsford Convent.
     
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    :eek:LOL:eek:LOL:eek:LOL
     
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    Gotta do the snow.....
     
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  41. BillyKidd

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    Even if only for a day or two!
     
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    Stay away from drugs and booze and get active with helping other people and do get out and push yourself physically in the great outdoors.
     
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    The booze? Let's not be hasty now! It's medicinal. :D
     
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    Laughing at an old acquaintance, a pathological liar he is, who used to put me up in Northcote if I could navigate the numerous empty wine bottles, days old dishes in kitchen sink and overflowing ashtrays. Somehow the cat usually got fed. Outings would consist of, after a few drinks and realising he's running out, driving (yep no joke) up to the local Aldi for more booze. After finding a good friend of his cut off financial support to him and faced with the task of making ends meet renting a Northcote apartment alone, he made am outburst that I was taking advantage of him because I spent the afternoon in Richmond, had dinner in Abbotsford Convent while his fridge stood empty except for booze and an old milk bottle. He used to eat with me at lentil as anything but eventually decided the vegan fad was a bit boring. On an earlier occasion he was hungry on payday and got dinner , tanked, from the KFC drive thru. Now I'm a light social drinker, it's just a thing I'll usually do only in good company. I say he must've been depressed for a long time and as long as I remember he's always been a bit of a drinker. The peak of this madness was his insisting on driving at night, from Mt Dandenong summit back home, after a few beers and half a wine bottle.

    Late last year I drove his car fron Sydney down to Point Cook for us to receive the hospitality of a hospitable retired Victorian state MP with a stylishly decorated big home, a bit of a drinker too he is. I was totally sober all the way, he drank 3 bottles of wine through the trip.

    Mr Tee I think I made a Freudian slip sometime when we'd met.
     
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    The sun rises in the east and sets in the west. Your point ?
     
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    Pointing north.
     
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    Any reliable over counter pain medicine like stuff with codeine will be prescription only starting next year. It's a needless incursion of the nanny state which will inconvenience the majority who need it for temporary pain etc.
     
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    Abuse of pain killers and other licit drugs is ruining health and lives. It's our biggest substance abuse problem. This is where the state normally steps in.
     
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    I don't like our nanny state and all of the restrictions but the sad truth is that the over the counter codeine analgesics don't contain enough codeine to counter pain but more than enough to get you addicted.
    I am going to have a real problem after surgery getting weaned off the damned stuff. At least I'm not yet on morphine patches or a pump
    I'll be glad when I can put on my socks and boots again, you can't ski in slippers
     
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    The script requirement is intended to stop folk from accumulating the stuff to feed a habit.

    As for analgesia, it seems that nothing much works over the long term. No surprise. Pain is a learned response.