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Heinz

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Look I've refrained so far, but having now found out how to post pics courtesy of Darb I though I might post a few from my trip to India last year. These are fom the little ski area of Auli in Uttaranchal (NE of Delhi).

View of Nanda Devi (7800m)
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Hotel & gondola tower
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Auli ski run (note crowds)
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Road up the valley (waiting to clear landslides)
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Road landslide
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I thought NZ roads were bad. Whats the chance you were the car the slide takes out, dont think its a good way to start ski trip going 300m one way down in an old pre seat belt tin can.
 

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These pics are awesome. My next trip to India will definitely include Auli and Utterpradesh region. Heinz, was the cable car working back than? Can you hire snowboards? How is the accommodation? I heard you can either stay in some huts in Auli owned by the state tourist office or commute to Joshimath on daily basis. By using the cable car from Joshima to Auli the road can be avoided, I heard.
 

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sheesh those roads give me the willies ,
mate of ours family went on one of those sorts of roads in a bus trip in that region ..
he couldnt stand it any longer got off and walked 25 km rather than go in the bus ..
Piccies and ski area look awesome .
 

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I was there in February. The road from Joshimath to Auli is under snow and closed. You take the cable car which goes whenever there are enough people.

I stayed in a privately owned hotel (Cliff Top resort) in the snow in Auli. You have to get off the 8th? tower of the cable car and walk down about 10 mins. It's a nice looking hotel but no insulation and the power supply in that valley is very dodgy, so I usually warmer skiing than I was sitting in my room. It would be around 2700m there.

Most of the accomodation is in Joshimath where you can catch the cable car up.

Didn't see any snowboard hire. The hotel just had some 10-15 year old ex rental skis.

The skiing in Auli is actaully fairly inocuous, it was a bit of fun getting in a few turns before my heliski week, seeing a different part of the Himalaya and mixing with a few middle class Indians from Mumbai & Ahmemabad.

There's no one skiing the powder, most there are absolute beginners and there isn't anything steep. The poma lift was R25 a run and the chair was R50 a ride - whenever the guy there decided there were enough to start it up.

I'm certainly glad it did it, gives you a bit of a glance of how people live in these valleys and as you can see from the roads it's not easy. It is a two day trip up from Rishikesh and the road is pretty bad most of the way. The pics are from the trip back down when we had at least 5 stops due to landslides, a car going over the edge (and luckily hitting a tree) and a fallen tree. There are hundreds of people occupied with clearing the road to keep it open. Not a job I would want. I often looked at some of the fallen rocks, dirt and noticed how fresh they were...
 

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Some more pics from the following week of same trip. This time from a heliski week out of Manali in Himachal Pradesh.

Deo Tibba (6000m)
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a few tracks
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view from the Lama
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more squiggly lines
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Heinz

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It is expensive - a week package ex Delhi goes for around USD6000. These also get heavily booked by Europeans. Sensational skiing though, skiing between around 3000-4800m. Runs are usually around 800-1200m vertical.

http://www.himachal.com
This operation was established by an Australian Roddy McKenzie in the early 90's. He has just recently sold out to concentrate on his inventions - like his Sabre avalanche probe which was featured this year on Quantum & the new inventors.
 
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Heinz

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It's my one major indulgence.

I certainly hope to! All for a good cause.
 

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Heinz - did you have any issues with the altitude?

I would imagine that you'd have to do a bit of acclimitising before heli-skiing at 4800 metres.
 

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They normally start the week landing at around 3500-4000m then work up to 4500-4800m later in the week to get people used to it. There are areas where you can go to 5000m but I haven't been there. I was just a bit more short of breath but didn't get any of the headaches or nausea that you can get. So I usually get into making slighty wider turns. One of the guys in our group really struggled, most others were ok.
And at the end of the day you are back in Manali at 2000m.
 

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farrrrrrk. im goin there for sure after my austrian season. dumb question, but is india still pretty cheap for an a couple of weeks of fun?
 

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Is India cheap? Well yes and no. For most things yes it is ie. if you are paying Indian prices. eg. a single ski lft run is about $1 and you can get a good meal for under $5 and budget accomodation maybe $10 a night.

And great Bhangra, Bollywood & Indian classical CD's & DVD's for around $5-10 each - picked up a few in Delhi. btw it was just announced that Musafir a Rajasthani Gypsy group will be playing at Womadelaide - looking forward to seeing them again.

But for international standard 4-5 star hotels you would pay the same as anywhere else and of course as already mentioned the heliskiing is definately not cheap.
 

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And finally some non ski pics from Rajasthan. There is plenty worth seeing in India - an amazing if not easy country.

Camels on lake Pichola, Udaipur. Unfortunately the lake was dry.
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View of City Palace, Udaipur
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Sunset over Lake Palace hotel
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Jain temple, Ranakpur
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Wow, i seem to remember that the heli skiing was around $7000 us for a week about 10-15 years back cant believe its actually dropped in price. India has been on the "list" for some time. GREAT PICS>anymore?
 

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ok here we go.
Some more from the heliski week. Some of these were obviously taken from the back of the heli so there's a bit of reflection.

Tracks
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Avalanche
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More peaks
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Kullu valley
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I was there in February. The road from Joshimath to Auli is under snow and closed. You take the cable car which goes whenever there are enough people.

I stayed in a privately owned hotel (Cliff Top resort) in the snow in Auli. You have to get off the 8th? tower of the cable car and walk down about 10 mins. It's a nice looking hotel but no insulation and the power supply in that valley is very dodgy, so I usually warmer skiing than I was sitting in my room. It would be around 2700m there.

Most of the accomodation is in Joshimath where you can catch the cable car up.

Didn't see any snowboard hire. The hotel just had some 10-15 year old ex rental skis.

The skiing in Auli is actaully fairly inocuous, it was a bit of fun getting in a few turns before my heliski week, seeing a different part of the Himalaya and mixing with a few middle class Indians from Mumbai & Ahmemabad.

There's no one skiing the powder, most there are absolute beginners and there isn't anything steep. The poma lift was R25 a run and the chair was R50 a ride - whenever the guy there decided there were enough to start it up.

I'm certainly glad it did it, gives you a bit of a glance of how people live in these valleys and as you can see from the roads it's not easy. It is a two day trip up from Rishikesh and the road is pretty bad most of the way. The pics are from the trip back down when we had at least 5 stops due to landslides, a car going over the edge (and luckily hitting a tree) and a fallen tree. There are hundreds of people occupied with clearing the road to keep it open. Not a job I would want. I often looked at some of the fallen rocks, dirt and noticed how fresh they were...
I am tossing up whether in 2021 to attempt my thwarted trek ,again from Gangotri to Tapovan or just go XC ski some snow in Auli in Uttarakhand.The latter is very tempting. I love the food and I am 100% fluent in Hindi. I would be inclined to take my own boots, skis and poles etc..Two weeks at the end of Jan./ start of Feb. would do it for me for an Auli kind of trip.
 

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How would Auli be placed versus Manali for XC skiing?. I have been to Manali in white season but there was black ice on the road which I slipped over on while walking , freezing cold HPTDC hotels and no snow at the valley level.
12 yr old thread - must almost be a record for thread mining!
 

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Look I've refrained so far, but having now found out how to post pics courtesy of Darb I though I might post a few from my trip to India last year. These are fom the little ski area of Auli in Uttaranchal (NE of Delhi).

View of Nanda Devi (7800m)
110_Auli_NandaDevi.jpg


Hotel & gondola tower
128_Auli_hotel.jpg


Auli ski run (note crowds)
129_Auli_skirun.jpg


Road up the valley (waiting to clear landslides)
140_Rudra_Srin.jpg


Road landslide
144_Rudra_Srin.jpg
You have sold Auli in Uttarakhand to me !.It is not if but when I go !.
 
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How would Auli be placed versus Manali for XC skiing?. I have been to Manali in white season but there was black ice on the road which I slipped over on while walking , freezing cold HPTDC hotels and no snow at the valley level.

First proviso is that this is going back 14 years and I haven't been back to Manali or Auli since then and even the last India trip to Gulmarg was 11 years ago, so comments will be somewhat dated.

I would say though that Manali would definately provide more options. There is just way more setup for touring. The one thing that Auli has though will be elevation. Manali itself is around 2000m while from memory with the ropeway Auli is up around 3000m.

As for freezing hotels, that is (or at least was) the norm for all the Indian Himalaya whether Manali, Auli or Gulmarg where double 'glazing' is a sheet of plastic, heating is electric bar heaters and power outages occur several times a day. Things may have improved since though - I don't know.
 
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You have sold Auli in Uttarakhand to me !.It is not if but when I go !.

Ha. Good luck. Enjoy. Will be interested to hear if the road has improved at all. That was quite some ride - was relieved to get back to Haridwar. The trip after on sealed roads to Manali seemed liked a cruise even in an Ambassador with bald tyres.
 
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First proviso is that this is going back 14 years and I haven't been back to Manali or Auli since then and even the last India trip to Gulmarg was 11 years ago, so comments will be somewhat dated.

I would say though that Manali would definately provide more options. There is just way more setup for touring. The one thing that Auli has though will be elevation. Manali itself is around 2000m while from memory with the ropeway Auli is up around 3000m.

As for freezing hotels, that is (or at least was) the norm for all the Indian Himalaya whether Manali, Auli or Gulmarg where double 'glazing' is a sheet of plastic, heating is electric bar heaters and power outages occur several times a day. Things may have improved since though - I don't know.
I have been all over Himachal Pradesh over the years. I went trekking In Uttarakhand last year. I know India and what to expect and will always go back every few years.
 
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