Joisus! You had it pretty good in NSW last winter. At least compared with Vic!It is what it is. Making up for last year.
Joisus! You had it pretty good in NSW last winter. At least compared with Vic!It is what it is. Making up for last year.
$3450 for 2 people 7 nights, ski in- ski out , 3 meals per day at Charlottes Pass. Love the idea of short ski in for Lunch.
$3450 for 2 people 7 nights, ski in- ski out , 3 meals per day at Charlottes Pass. Love the idea of short ski in for Lunch.
A factual comment would be, "anyone notice a huge price increase this year?"Can't you handle factual comments about pricing. It affects a lot of people who budget to enable them to go skiing. OK if your filthy rich I guess.
You have a bed here anytime.The prices are insane. $350 a night for a room at the LJ. I hesitate paying that for a 5* hotel in the city, but have done. It’s greed. They know people will pay so they charge ridiculous prices.
Aww thanks appreciate the offer.You have a bed here anytime.
i'd be in trouble if she knew where you were really sleeping!Aww thanks appreciate the offer.
I keep getting in trouble from another friend too. But I really like my tent and bedi'd be in trouble if she knew where you were really sleeping!![]()
It's not greed @jabsy, when insurance costs consume over 40% of your revenue you have no option if you want to provide accommodation to the general public.-PERSONAL ATTACK DELETED-as my post suggested in the very opening line - just testing the thoughts on the increase. Yes some have good deals but the prices are so inflated (despite your insurance costs - maybe you should shop around) that I personally will ski New Zealand next year. There is a limit to greed.
To put the cost of accomodation matter into perspective...
Our small family club lodge in Perisher took a massive dive in revenue, as did all other lodges, in 2020. Our occupancy rate was a ridiculous 2% for the winter season.
We have negotiated (finally) a rent relief deal with NPWS. While it's ok, it's only just OK. I won't go into details but we are now required to pay the 2020 rent (because it was deferred until the rent relief decision was made...just in the last few days) AND we have to pay for 2021-22 in advance. Thankfully our bookings have bounced back to pretty much normal. But even so, as a small not-for-profit club lodge we are struggling.
There are enough people to always fill. When the gates open back up to students/immigration and foreign tourists. Lots of our airbnb bookings came from mainland China, Malaysia and Singapore alone.It will be interesting to see what happens once O/S opens up again. (Not the BS opening that could end up costing you an extra 2 weeks quarantine). Yes we live in a capitalist market and yeah many got smashed last year with COVID but if you smash the budget traveller too much they may just keep saving and end up O/S once it opens up again. And you know most of the people willing to pay the crazy prices will def be spending O/S so what sort of a issue is this going to create down the track?
Hell yeah. That sounds like what my old club (Snowbird) would be doing. Loved it. Now that all the kids have grown up I just get to go down for a 5 day mid week blast with the daughter so Thredbo suits more, but I love CPV.$3450 for 2 people 7 nights, ski in- ski out , 3 meals .. at CPV
If Unzud is open for business next year, don't be surprised if their price levels are well into gouging territory. And you won't get anything like discounted flights. Start saving now.-PERSONAL ATTACK DELETED-as my post suggested in the very opening line - just testing the thoughts on the increase. Yes some have good deals but the prices are so inflated (despite your insurance costs - maybe you should shop around) that I personally will ski New Zealand next year. There is a limit to greed.
Oh I will gladly head to NZ next year if the prices in Oz continue to be this high and so will a lot of others. No - I'm NOT an ignorant fool as you suggest - just a person who looks for value for money and one who does not endorse greed (like a lot of other people). There has to be a balance.It's not greed @jabsy, when insurance costs consume over 40% of your revenue you have no option if you want to provide accommodation to the general public.
And you think we haven't shopped around you fool? Please, head to NZ, we don't tolerate ignorant fools.
You don't get it do you? We are a not for profit registered organisation. We need to cover our running expenses, so charge accordingly. You clearly have no idea on how to run a business entity. Personal Attack Deleted.Oh I will gladly head to NZ next year if the prices in Oz continue to be this high and so will a lot of others. No - I'm NOT an ignorant fool as you suggest - just a person who looks for value for money and one who does not endorse greed (like a lot of other people). There has to be a balance.
It's not greed @jabsy, when insurance costs consume over 40% of your revenue you have no option if you want to provide accommodation to the general public.
And you think we haven't shopped around you fool? Please, head to NZ, we don't tolerate ignorant fools.
We're a timber clad building at the top of a heavily vegetated slope, classed very high risk. There 30+ buildings in the same category. My understanding is that even buildings like the Arlberg, all brick and in a lower risk area are having trouble getting insurance.Interested to hear how lodge insurances can rack up to that 40%. Genuinely out of interest. My holiday unit (one in a strata block of 4) has a building insurance policy and then I have my own short stay policy in place.
Combination of both is nowhere near 40% of my revenue. More like 5-7% depending on how much summer use.
My unit is in jindy. I understand on hill building insurance would be higher but wouldnt have thought so much.
Try a less combative approach to your posts if you wish to avoid a thread ban.Oh I will gladly head to NZ next year if the prices in Oz continue to be this high and so will a lot of others. No - I'm NOT an ignorant fool as you suggest - just a person who looks for value for money and one who does not endorse greed (like a lot of other people). There has to be a balance.
Insurance is a weird bit of business. Even my low risk home insurance in Perth has gone up substantially because of the East Coast fires last year. The underwriters will need to recover those payouts via increased premiums on everyoneWe're a timber clad building at the top of a heavily vegetated slope, classed very high risk. There 30+ buildings in the same category. My understanding is that even buildings like the Arlberg, all brick and in a lower risk area are having trouble getting insurance.
Insurance went through the roof. Also just generally difficult to get/renew insurance in the first place at any price since last year. My source: Two lodges in Perisher plus a chap I surf with once or twice a week does - among other things - insurance inspections of ski lodges (NSW and Vic).Interested to hear how lodge insurances can rack up to that 40%.
This.The earlier you book, the cheaper it is. You would have to be blind to not see that prices and demand were going to be high this year. My partner and I booked a tiny house in Kalkite for mid August back in January and its only costing us $1200 for a week.
A lot of these places are also subsidized by the Feds in the form of negative gearing , so people should be grateful that these rental properties are providing a service to the the local tourism market and thus making ski holidays more affordableThe earlier you book, the cheaper it is. You would have to be blind to not see that prices and demand were going to be high this year. My partner and I booked a tiny house in Kalkite for mid August back in January and its only costing us $1200 for a week.
Which one?I'm disappointed that nobody has posted that pic of the line at Perisher that did the rounds yesterday.
Excuse the ignorance, but what's the drive time between Kalkite and Thredbo/Perisher each day? Wouldn't that be a pain the arse?The earlier you book, the cheaper it is. You would have to be blind to not see that prices and demand were going to be high this year. My partner and I booked a tiny house in Kalkite for mid August back in January and its only costing us $1200 for a week.
Which one?
Today's look worse.
Better to stay indoors
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Snow shoe or snowboard ? No que where Im going !
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The V8 queue was cycling through reasonably, the quad queue though was horrid. 10am.
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Excuse the ignorance, but what's the drive time between Kalkite and Thredbo/Perisher each day? Wouldn't that be a pain the arse?
So whats the primary cause for the mega long lift lines.I'm disappointed that nobody has posted that pic of the line at Perisher that did the rounds yesterday.
Skiing is popular, and will be more so this year due to no travel last summer and most likely no travel this coming summer.So whats the primary cause for the mega long lift lines.
Lack of snow on the ground to open more lifts or staffing problems and an inability to open more lifts due to lack of staff.
Google says its only 15 mins to Jindabyne. So whatever it is from there plus 15. This will be my first time.Excuse the ignorance, but what's the drive time between Kalkite and Thredbo/Perisher each day? Wouldn't that be a pain the arse?
Google says its only 15 mins to Jindabyne. So whatever it is from there plus 15. This will be my first time.
We knew 4 months ago that this season was going to be like no other with forward bookings .Skiing is popular, and will be more so this year due to no travel last summer and most likely no travel this coming summer.
Have you ever been to Copper Mountain? Skiing in the USA can be cheaper than you think, for those "in the know".Just testing opinions out there as to the crazy over inflated prices for accommodation in Jindabyne and Perisher this 2021 season? Hotel owners have gone rank with the most expensive prices this year ever. I have been booking accommodation every year for the past 20 years and what I am seeing now is just insane prices and most is booked out. Lucky I booked 3 months ago but still paid way way more than previous years. Must be taking advantage of skiers and boarders unable to travel to NZ (which I usually spend a week over the ditch every year). Very ordinary lodges charging $7,200 for 5 days for 2 people is crazy. Well known lodge in Jindabyne charging $900 per night for a studio apartment is mad. Lucky I have booked already to visit NZ next season - at a LOT LESS cost than Australian ski fields. Won't this cause a hastle if lockdown occurs in Jindabyne or Perisher.
Total terrain open for the customer load.So whats the primary cause for the mega long lift lines.
Lack of snow on the ground to open more lifts or staffing problems and an inability to open more lifts due to lack of staff.
You plan staffing 4 months in advance. Since most are itinerant workers coming in for the season at a specific time, you can't just ask them to come 2, 3, 4 weeks earlier than scheduled at a moment's notice, where do you put them?We knew 4 months ago that this season was going to be like no other with forward bookings .
You would hate to think that they have not sorted out staffing issues with getting lifts open
Actually they don't want to pay them, and every single weekend will probably be like this due to massive demand from customers this year.You plan staffing 4 months in advance. Since most are itinerant workers coming in for the season at a specific time, you can't just ask them to come 2, 3, 4 weeks earlier than scheduled at a moment's notice, where do you put them?
And it's all for just 1 weekend.
if it didn't snow last week, do you think that it would have been so busy? Lots have driven down just because of this snow fall.
This. Worst thing for those people too is to be in Jindy “early”, not getting any hours of work, and burning money at Jindy winter rates… Leads to bad results all round.Since most are itinerant workers coming in for the season at a specific time, you can't just ask them to come 2, 3, 4 weeks earlier than scheduled at a moment's notice, where do you put them?
Well there is/was a steady stream of requests/queries for accommodation for "staff" on Facebook saying they were starting/needing accommodation from mid next week.Actually they don't want to pay them, and every single weekend will probably be like this due to massive demand from customers this year.
I spent most of my 20s chasing the snow in France and Australia and usually the really quiet time for work was in between the summer season and waiting for the winter season to kick of.
The summer resorts would have well and truly laid of their staff.
You just sit around waiting for the snow to start falling, oh wait that's already happened !!
Back in those days many companies provided accommodation for their winter staff, but the bean counters figured out years ago they could rent the rooms out to paying guests and the workers sorted out their own accommodation.
Now customers are paying the price, because they dont have the staff available to open up when the demand is there.
Yup.Well there is/was a steady stream of requests/queries for accommodation for "staff" on Facebook saying they were starting/needing accommodation from mid next week.
Yeah , its a bit late for that , especially if the accommodation isn't there .Well there is/was a steady stream of requests/queries for accommodation for "staff" on Facebook saying they were starting/needing accommodation from mid next week.
No overseas staff had proven to be a difficult hurdle to overcome.We knew 4 months ago that this season was going to be like no other with forward bookings .
You would hate to think that they have not sorted out staffing issues with getting lifts open