Is Charlotte Pass weak or strong market?

SilentSki

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I just ask a question about Charlotte Pass. Is CP strong market?

I was puzzle how CP can manage the finance very well for many years. Never crush or closed down.

Have any old topic similar like this?
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Tree Breaker Bob

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Have skied/boarded there for eight years but am finding that with the kids that are getting older but still at school the prices getting too expensive. No five day pass with a weeks accomodation like can do at PB or Thredbo. Plus can buy student season pass for kids for same cost as one weeks lift pass at CP, therefore making extra weekends cheaper. Our group of 15 people all feel this way so next year probably PB with the crowds but will save $800. When kids grow up probably come back as I love the place, Cappachinos in the pub for morning tea I will miss
 

Nebulous

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i am aiming for CP in september if the spring snow is good...i am pysched...pity about the tows...will have to ski as I cant use tows with snowboard!
 

Roastie Harry

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Nebulous said:
i am aiming for CP in september if the spring snow is good...i am pysched...pity about the tows...will have to ski as I cant use tows with snowboard!
The chair gives access to more than half of the resort.
 
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Nebulous said:
i am aiming for CP in september if the spring snow is good...i am pysched...pity about the tows...will have to ski as I cant use tows with snowboard!
I will be there from the 8th to the 10th of Sept. I booked the second last room at the Chalet. But there may be a couple more places floating around up there.
 
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Nebulous

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there is a chair at CP? Yay! I thought it was tow only...serves me right for assuming and not researching! Thanks D'Eye for the heads up. Yay yay yay i am really excited now, my bro is coming too!
 

wiggle

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Cappuccinos at the pub at 11?? Elevenses is when we have our first real drink of the day!
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Nebulous

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i can ride a tow with skis but i have never made it far on a snowboard. I never know where to put my weight and so forth. Never had a lesson snowboarding either. Skis its a breeze...actually quite nice.
 

Triple B

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Learn to ride a T ya plonker. The T accesses the best terrain there.
Whilst I don't disagree with your sentiment, he should learn to ride a T, the top of the T can be easily accessed from the chair, so the 'best' terrain you speak of can be accessed from the chair, although once you are there, the chair is admittedly no longer an option.

This best terrain is Guthries I presume?

PS. Nebulous, once you go to Guthires or ski that lovely little bowl between Guthries and the T, the chair is no longer an option so get a lesson on how to ride T's and if Guthries is open, definately get a lesson so you can ride the Guthries poma, you'll kick yourself if you don't.
 
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schnaxl

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CP is closing on the October long weekend and won't be open for the next school holidays- ie, no lifts and Chalet will be closed.
 

schnaxl

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only the lodges are open then - we had a great few days there at Easter - it snowed heavily the week before Easter and there were lots of snow patches around (about the same as now I guess!)
Chalet is closed from end September till July. Stillwell Lodge, which is commercial is open most of the year, I think.
 

Sago

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Village closing 24/9,not long weekend.Village now has denied lodges of 3 weeks trade 2 weeks at the start and 1 week at the end.Why they just don't put up closed for the season i have no idea.I don't think they want to make money despite us having the most snow.Leny please sell out
 

Sago

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Also would like to know why village management refuse to open lifts despite muched improved snow cover.Other resorts strive to open lifts while here they strive to keep them closed.Please open chair to top at least for the advanced riders and you might sell some tickets.Stop coming out with excuses and start providing a service or reduce your lift price to a third as that is all you have open.Stop jerking people off Cp
 

wiggle

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Sago, the village closes early because CPV management feel that it is not in their economic interests to stay open till the long weekend. It's mostly chook-footers who ski that late in the season, and they don't buy lift tickets.
As you say, Lenny is a cheapskate. The more lifts open, the more lifties he has to pay. As for the chair, there may not be enough snow to use the back or front trails, so skiers who aren't up to using the first few chutes would struggle. You generally need a base of about 1 metre to open Guthries. The problem is not getting down, but getting up! With the snow-makers applied to the bottom, you can get away with less snow.
I don't think anyone will buy CPV until the lease issue has been resolved. It has been for sale for years, but the price is prohibitive.
 

Sago

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Congrats chair now open.As to closing village early they are denying the lodges of a source of income.Yes they do get more chook footers but only mainly to 2 lodges.I also think charging full lift rates don't help their cause.As we all know there is only about 3 hours good skiingin late spring.Its about competion.Lodges reduce their prices what about the lift companies
 

schnaxl

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thanks Sago for letting us know that CP is closing earlier (24/9) - I have had to change our booking , but we will be chook footing (as you so delicately put it) anyway.
 

Sago

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Have no prob with chook footers i have a pair.They still pay for food and acc.It's just that CP hates them.No lifts, no hire ,no lesson's and no transport
 

schnaxl

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I haven't chook footed for 20 years,(I have been downhilling at PB since the days of leather boots) but my partner has equipped himself with all the latest gear.
Even if there isn't much snow, CP is I think the most beautiful of the alpine resorts. It is just a pity that it is run in such a miserly fashion.
 

BrockF

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Even if there isn't much snow, CP is I think the most beautiful of the alpine resorts. It is just a pity that it is run in such a miserly fashion.
!!! Totally agree
 
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churchy

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i can't remember who said it, but i reckon the way to go would be to build a cut and cover ski tube line underneath the existing roadway from PB to charlotte and then PB should buy the resort. It would give them a reason to charge $91 a day for tickets and kick them past the 60 lift mark. it would then be run as just another part of the resort, much like the cow and smigs.
 

SilentSki

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churchy said:
i can't remember who said it, but i reckon the way to go would be to build a cut and cover ski tube line underneath the existing roadway from PB to charlotte and then PB should buy the resort. It would give them a reason to charge $91 a day for tickets and kick them past the 60 lift mark. it would then be run as just another part of the resort, much like the cow and smigs.
I agree with churchy but I heard from gossip that CP is the most windy than any ski resorts in OZ.
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wiggle

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Can't agree, Churchy. The beauty of Charlotte Pass is the lack of people. Opening it up would ruin it. Also, there isn't a snowball's chance in hell the the NPWS would allow it.
Paying ridiculously high lift prices is the concession that we make to ski uncrowded slopes.
I also agree with Sago about prices. For years the lodges have been asking Lenny to reduce lift prices at each end of the season. No go.
And Schnaxl, it is the most beautiful of the resorts, partly because of its isolation. Hope I didn't offend by using the term 'chook-footers' - not a derogatory term.
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schnaxl

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No offence taken - although you wouldn't want to use that term at my club (hint: the large one next to the Chalet) - some of the old timers would probably bbq you...and then go out chook footing.
 

Sago

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It is more relevant this season than any to reduce prices.Can't afford to loose the current customers we have.This applies to all resorts.Show some direction make Sept memeorable rather than forgetable.Lodges have attractive prices resorts please follow suit.
 

wiggle

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Sago, I agree with you 100%, but Lenny is the one you have to convince. The rest of the valley has been trying to lead him down that track for years. Good luck.
 

wiggle

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Schnaxl, I know your club well. I am with the auld enemy, but no hard feelings.
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schnaxl

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I have actually stayed at your club as well - in PB and Thredbo. Tomorrow we are off to PB and to CP in September - good bushwalking by then, I reckon!
No offence taken...
 
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