Thought I'd start this again away from the Buller RMB scandal thread, as it was getting interesting. I went to Thredbo twice this summer season for mountain biking, and it's certainly far from dead, and bikes are everywhere. The vibe is good. But it's not quite a golden goose. It's not that mountain bikers don't have money, in fact the opposite - we're talking high income middle-aged men with $8000 toys here. Actually, that's the problem. The family and casual market isn't there. I may get the in-laws down for a skiing weekend, but that will NOT happen for downhill mtb this century. I reckon for every single rider on the signature downhill track, there must be a hundred punters and kids riding the free NPWS valley trail on back-of-the-garage bikes, that are worth less than a single day's downhill bike rental.