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Is there any hope for my 20+ year old MONT jacket

Discussion in 'Equipment' started by BigWaveDave, Jun 14, 2019.

  1. BigWaveDave

    BigWaveDave Hard Yards

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    So, the trusty MONT Goretex Mountaineering jacket purchased in the late 90's is still hanging in there and is an awesome jacket in snow/wind and everything except rain as the waterproof coating has all but disappeared and raindrops tend to absorb into the fabric instead of rolling off.

    With another Japan ski trip planned for January do I simply write this trusty friend off and lash out on another jacket or are the wash in/ spray on coatings worthwhile? And if so which brands (Nikwax etc) are best??

    I used this treatment before our last Japan trip (4 years ago) and although snowflakes roll off easily there was still some moisture absorbtion around seams etc which wasn't ideal and I think if I get a rainy day it just won't stand up. Thoughts/Advice?
     
  2. D-eye

    D-eye Photographer and skier Moderator

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    Contact Mont. I seem to recall there wasn't a time limit on that type of advice/help.
    That said, it's looking great for 20+ years.
     
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  3. Richard

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    Ol' mate has got a 20yr Mont hiking jacket - it's still powering but now relegated as a 2nd for fishing etc.

    Nikwax rejuvenates kinda OK if you do the Techwash first then the treatment. But ultimately the membrane is on it's way out and that's that. Fair innings but. Not many brands are good for two decades of hard yakka.
     
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  4. BigWaveDave

    BigWaveDave Hard Yards

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    Yeah it's had a good run that's for sure. Cheers
     
  5. telecrag

    telecrag Old n' Crusty Ski Pass: Gold

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    Id keep it, and wear it for gaper days!

    The boys would love to see it I reckon.
     
  6. LMB

    LMB Old but definitely not Crusty! Ski Pass: Gold

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    This!!
     
  7. chicski

    chicski A Local Ski Pass: Gold

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    I have a reasonably new Mont jacket. It’s really stiff. Is there anyway to soften it up? Or does that just happen with wear?
     
  8. BigWaveDave

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    Cheers mate hadn't actually considered that, Ive just sent them an email asking for their advice, Thanks! dave
     
  9. Richard

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    That's how they bake in the quality. Should soften a little but will always be a bit stiff compared to other products.

    Goretex Active was invented for this very reason.
     
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    linked_recoveries One of Us

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    Cool jacket. Hang onto it for bluebird days, but you're going to need a new jacket if you want to remain dry in the rain.
     
  11. Chaeron

    Chaeron One of Us Ski Pass: Gold

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    If you absolutely refuse to part with it you could potentially treat it with Bowden’s Fabratection - a waterproofing treatment for car interiors which goes for $43 for 500ml - available at most car supplies outlets.

    https://www.bowdensown.com.au/fabratection

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    Waterproof, but no longer breathable.

    It’s working (so far) on my 20 year old ski pants I refuse to part with which totally lost any semblance of waterproofing. The pants have vent-zips, so I’m OK for breathability.
     
  12. Moondog55

    Moondog55 One of Us

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    I second contacting Mont
    Next I would second using Techwash followed by spray-on Nikwax. Love the jacket
     
  13. Donzah

    Donzah Old n' Crusty Ski Pass: Gold

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    No hope at all. It's hideously ugly.

    Spoil yourself with a new jacket.
     
  14. Kletterer

    Kletterer Thredbo Doughnut Tragic Moderator Ski Pass: Gold

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    Which garment ? Thunderbolt hardshell ? DWR treatment can feel stiff to begin with .
     
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    chicski A Local Ski Pass: Gold

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    It has Hydronaute 3s written on it. It was on sale and a pretty colour. I’ve been wearing it to commute in dodgy weather.
     
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    chicski A Local Ski Pass: Gold

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    If its an XXL I'll give you $10- for postage
     
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    robbo mcs One of Us Ski Pass: Gold

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    Nikwash (not wax) and then dry in a clothes dryer on warm, or iron on gentle. You need to use heat to reactivate DWR, as per goretex’s recommendations. If that doesn’t work, then it’s toast as far as waterproofing.
    I presume you have already tried that;)
     
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    For some reason I actually prefer a stiff, crinkly Goretex jacket over a soft shell. Dunno why, but I like the crackly feel of it.
     
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  21. Snowy Joey

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    Bought the same jacket in the sale and think it’s a bit stiff too. Let’s hope they do soften up a bit with time.

    Love my mont gear. I have a 18 year old slinx 3/4 zip fleece which is still going strong.
     
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  22. chicski

    chicski A Local Ski Pass: Gold

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    The bit that bothers me is the collar and hood. Hopefully it softens. Maybe I should roll it up and pummel it a bit :D
     
  23. Snowy Joey

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    Yes me too, collar gets under your chin when done up fully. I didn’t realise the hood wasn’t detachable until I got annoyed with it and tried to see if I could take it off. Try pummelling it, might help ;)
     
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    I like old stuff too , keep it and use it as a windshell when not wet.
    I sometimes wear my Ripcurl jacket from the 80s or if it is warm a Fairisle jumper like the old days..
     
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  25. DPS Driver

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    Nikwax it and retire it for walking the dog in light drizzle, or the like.

    Get a new jacket. But with 20 years of life out of that one and potentially more in a less active pursuit, you'd have to go back to Mont. The benefit of buying quality on display with this jacket.
     
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    Glad you guys still love your Mont jackets. I had a late 90s Mont jacket - in fact I had about 3, as one delaminated Mont agreed to replace with another. My fav model had a foldaway hood that folded into a biggish collar Sir Walter Raleigh would have been proud to of! It was very cool and comfy and a great length for walking and XC skiing.

    But it delaminated too and my lady in the chain was the current Lightspeed. It's been better re laminates but At > 10 years it's now starting to show its age.

    One thing for certain, When I'm about to buy my next hard shell I'll review thoroughly.

    I like the idea of Arteryx - they appear to have a good wrap and lots of model choices for winter sports. But gee- can they charge? Definitely will wait for a big sale for one of these babies!

    Bump! (Good to ask here what people think of arteryx and as to what's a good model for skiing lifts and xc plus non prickly-scoparia day walks in Vicco).
     
  27. DPS Driver

    DPS Driver One of Us

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    I've always likes Arcteryx from a quality perspective but never owned one. Again just from feedback and picking up in shops and fondling.
    My mate who helps me with DPS demo days grabbed one in Canada two years ago, through a guiding connection. So the jacket he has is a logoed cat skiing guide jacket, brand new when he got it. He says the quality is great but the functionality isn't good at all. Pocket placement and lack of pockets is a pain in the bum for him. I must agree, putting it up against my Trew Gear jackets and it doesn't hold up on storage.
    Now this may just be the model of jacket, so ??? but it is what it is.
     
  28. Chaeron

    Chaeron One of Us Ski Pass: Gold

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    I got the Arcteryx Theta on sale via Paddy Palin - priced very competitively.

    Awesome jacket. Very highly recommended.

    Agree on the pocket placement - slightly smallish and a bit high and round the side so not optimally easy to access.

    The Theta pockets are big enough for my kicker skins, but not for the full set.

    I like the shoulder pocket for a lift pass though - very convenient going through the gate.
     
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