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News Its offical Perisher is now owned by Vail.

Discussion in 'Perisher' started by Ozgirl, Jul 1, 2015.

  1. Ozgirl

    Ozgirl A Local Ski Pass: Gold

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  2. Marty_McSly

    Marty_McSly What a plonker. Ski Pass: Gold

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    I'll probably sit on the fence for a while.
     
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  3. Ozgirl

    Ozgirl A Local Ski Pass: Gold

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    Yeah - I have japan and then europe in mind.

    So if i got a pass it would not be until 17/18... currently not a perisher season pass holder but the boy is.
     
  4. Marty_McSly

    Marty_McSly What a plonker. Ski Pass: Gold

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    The easy money for Vail is in:

    Firstly, maintaining Perisher's $20M or so annual profit.

    Secondly, leveraging Perisher to attract Aussies to Vail US resorts.

    So I don't expect too much disruption to the current Freedom Pass offer or timing in the near future. Apart perhaps from some branding changes. Epic Freedom Pass or Freedom Epic Pass this year maybe, changing to just Epic Pass in a year or 2?
     
  5. Seth

    Seth Pool Room Ski Pass: Gold

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    Are hoards of Texans now looking to come over? :rolleyes:
     
  6. Ozgirl

    Ozgirl A Local Ski Pass: Gold

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    No way will the maintain two passes. will will be encourage to get on the Nth Hem cycle quick smart!

    ie purchase a pas now to use 15/16 nth hem and perisher 2016!
     
  7. Marty_McSly

    Marty_McSly What a plonker. Ski Pass: Gold

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    Entirely possible now...
     
  8. Seth

    Seth Pool Room Ski Pass: Gold

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    LOL
     
  9. Marty_McSly

    Marty_McSly What a plonker. Ski Pass: Gold

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    I assume you're referring to last week's Supreme Court decision?
     
  10. Ralph_implement

    Ralph_implement A Local

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    Well, the current landscape probably is familiar to a Texan.
     
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  11. rocketboy

    rocketboy One of Us Ski Pass: Gold

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    B U S - how's that for a three word slogan
     
  12. David Andrews

    David Andrews Hard Yards

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    If they don't improve access then many people from outside sydney & canberra will continue to go to nz.

    No reason why they couldn't charter or underwrite a widebody aircraft into canberra on say Sundays in ski season. If they can't find one in OZ air nz has announced they are keeping their 767 s for quite a few more years.

    Fyi air nz can fly domestically in oz without any hassles at all.

    Think air nz might be looking at using their 767s as low cost operation.
     
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    Zappa Hard Yards

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    Noticed a few more Yank accents than usual around Perisher...

    Is the rebranding starting with removal of the quaint Blue Cow posters from cafeteria...? I quite liked those quirky posters....would buy them if they were on sale.
     
  14. Marty_McSly

    Marty_McSly What a plonker. Ski Pass: Gold

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    That reminds me, I must check the Ski Brokeback Mountain website and see if it's been (ahem!) updated lately.
     
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  15. DidSurfNowSki

    DidSurfNowSki One of them Ski Pass: Gold

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    Some stuff I was reading last night off the Perisher website:

    Will my Perisher Freedom Pass with Epic Benefits card work at the US resorts?
    No, all Perisher Freedom Pass holders with Epic Benefits will receive a new, separate, card that will provide you unlimited access to Breckenridge, Keystone and Arapahoe Basin in Colorado; Park City and Canyons in Utah; Heavenly, Northstar and Kirkwood in Lake Tahoe, California; Afton Alps, Minnesota and Mt. Brighton, Michigan. Plus a total of 10 days at Vail and/or Beaver Creek, combined. All Resort access subject to certain holiday restrictions.​

    When will I receive my Epic Benefits card?
    All purchasers of the Perisher Freedom Pass with Epic Benefits will receive their Epic Benefits card prior to November 2015.​

    @Normo, put in a suggestion they link the cards for next season ! That way you could win the Northern and Southern hemisphere VM leaderboard :p

    I'm looking forward to February to try out the resorts in Colorado and Utah. I ditched the California option due to time constraints.
     
  16. Ozgirl

    Ozgirl A Local Ski Pass: Gold

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    I suspect next year's Freedom pass will be branded EPIC!

    The dates of validity is what i am wondering about...
     
  17. DidSurfNowSki

    DidSurfNowSki One of them Ski Pass: Gold

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    http://www.perisher.com.au/freedom/what-is-epic/faqs

    I purchased my Perisher Freedom Pass between August - October 2014, do I get the Epic Benefits?

    Yes, previous purchasers of the Perisher Freedom Pass will receive Epic Benefits for the 2015/2016 ski season.
     
  18. Snorkler

    Snorkler Part of the Furniture

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    As Dr Phil says, past behaviour is a good predictor of future behaviour. If that is the case, the most likely scenario is that they create multiple types of passes. A 'Locals' pass that is limited to Perisher alone and has no validity outside of that ( and possibly some restrictions) and perhaps a higher level pass that gives access to US resorts at a much reduced rate with restrictions removed.
     
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  19. Ozgirl

    Ozgirl A Local Ski Pass: Gold

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    Yes i know that for this season... its next season (which you raised) that i am curious about!
     
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    Snorkler Part of the Furniture

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    The other question is when is the 10 visits and the pass open for use in the US, ie; for the summer of the season prior to the Perisher season (15/16 for 2016 pass) or for the season after (16/17 for 2016 pass) or then again perhaps for a NH season either side of the SH season?
     
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  21. DidSurfNowSki

    DidSurfNowSki One of them Ski Pass: Gold

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    True that. Also, if they hike up the costs of a season pass (or Epic pass or whatever they call it) next year then one would need to consider ones options.
     
  22. DidSurfNowSki

    DidSurfNowSki One of them Ski Pass: Gold

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    You would think an annual pass would be for a year from which you got it.
     
  23. Ozgirl

    Ozgirl A Local Ski Pass: Gold

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    Exactly!
     
  24. Ozgirl

    Ozgirl A Local Ski Pass: Gold

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    I think all the aussie resorts will be waiting to see what the timing is too...

    One way i thought it might work is that you pay your deposit in sept/oct for the next season in Australia. IF you want to use your pass for the coming northern hemisphere you will need to pay for the entire pass upfront before you use it.

    So this Sept they could announce it and potentially capture people who want to ski this 15/16 season in America but didn't get a freedom pass before the 31st may deadline.

    And those that did only have to pay the deposit for next years aussie season... and this will be the pattern for future years.

    But yes not sure what restrictions will continue to be in place for Epic benefits.
     
  25. dawooduck

    dawooduck relaxed and comfortable Ski Pass: Gold

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    Kosciusko Road is to be renamed the I70 south fort next season.
     
  26. sixty_eight

    sixty_eight One of Us

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    Will that get the Wilson's Valley cam back online?
     
  27. cold wombat

    cold wombat Twitter Contributer Social Media Mod Ski Pass: Gold

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    The pass starts at the beginning of the Perisher season for which it was bought. The following Nth winter it can be used. If you want to do it the other way around, buy an Epic pass from the US (in $US). It will then be valid for the following Perisher season.
     
  28. DidSurfNowSki

    DidSurfNowSki One of them Ski Pass: Gold

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    And Vail buses from The Station to the resort ? (h/t rocketboy)
     
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    BlueHue One of Us Ski Pass: Gold

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    Had an idea about putting Perisher on the map in summer.

    Yeh I know its pipe dreaming, I know my idea is probably not commercially viable and probably will never get through enviro approvals but......... a ski tube accessed descending mountain bike trail. Start at Perisher Village, topo map tells me its about 1.5km mostly on road/fire trail to get to a hill top high enough to start an all mountain style descent that would continue all the way to the Thredbo River. At this point link it up to the TVT for return to Bullocks Flat. Run one or two trains each day to get people back up to the village.
     
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    skichic A Local

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    The concentration is now on extending the TVT all the way to link up with the Jindy MTB trails. Top of Thredbo all the way to East Jindabyne. Perisher has missed the boat on this one.
     
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    hatto One of Us Ski Pass: Gold

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    It appears from all the trip reports this season that through the week the crowds have dwindled a little but the weekends have been brutal for crowds. Any thoughts on vail adjusting ticket pricing etc to try and get more saturation through the week.
    My thoughts are that if people have to endure big waits for lifts too often they will look elsewhere (thredders etc)
     
  32. DidSurfNowSki

    DidSurfNowSki One of them Ski Pass: Gold

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    :eek: From a few years back :eek:

    Chairlift mishap strips US skier

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    A skier was left dangling from a chairlift at an American resort after he became stuck upside-down with his ski trousers round his ankles.

    Photos show the man naked from his waist to his knees, swinging from one leg, and still wearing both skis.

    He became entangled shortly after boarding the Skyline Express lift.

    The lift was stopped and reversed about 12ft (3.6m) before he was freed by the Vail Ski Patrol, Vail Resort said in a statement about the 1 January incident.

    The resort operator said the 48-year-old man was suspended for about seven minutes, but was uninjured.

    http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/americas/7816336.stm
     
  33. sara777

    sara777 A Local Ski Pass: Gold

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    There were quite a few threads about it on here back then. Even one of the first miniSIC photo had this poor guy in :nerd:
     
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  34. DidSurfNowSki

    DidSurfNowSki One of them Ski Pass: Gold

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    Dangerous place Vail.
     
  35. benchives

    benchives Part of the Furniture Ski Pass: Gold

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    This is the flip side of the 'it's so awesome I can also ski at copper mountain' effect
     
  36. absentskier

    absentskier Old n' Crusty Ski Pass: Gold

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    Wot?
     
  37. benchives

    benchives Part of the Furniture Ski Pass: Gold

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    I think the benefits of the pass that allows you to ski Perisher and vail's North American resorts is a bit overdone, especially if you value things like wait times and sparsely populated ski areas.
     
  38. Normo

    Normo Mostly Harmless Ski Pass: Gold

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    My observation is that there has been no dwindling of crowds at all. Perisher has been busier from day one of the season, initially dragging people from other resorts that had no cover, but then powering along on the back of multiple visits by season pass holders. There's been a noticeable increase in small tour operators bringing new snow customers by targeting ethnic groups not usually identified with snow sport participation. The provision of a free toboggan/ snow play area by Perisher seems to be a winner in introducing newbies to the snow experience. Those of us who ski constantly throughout the season have been amazed at the size of the crowds have continued to turn up day after day, long after school holidays, long weekends, bank holidays, Interschools etc. have occurred.
    I think record season pass sales are producing record crowd numbers on a daily basis and the fact that Perisher are putting everything they can into snowmaking/grooming/lift improvements means that it will grow in stature as the premium ski resort in Oz. That may result in a drift back to other resorts as people look for a different, quieter experience but..........the best resort will always have the capacity to improve facilities and infrastructure. Perisher seems to be coping well with current (high) demand.
    Happy to share!
    :)
     
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  39. Nidecker

    Nidecker One of Us Ski Pass: Gold

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    I skied both Sat and Sun last weekend at Perisher, mountain apparently had ~14k visitors on Sat (according to a mountain ops guy on a chair with me) I never really waited anywhere except in the punter areas - FV HV PV - Guthega was fun, Blue Cow was no waiting apparently, Smigs was empty ish on Saturday. I don't know where other people were. My feeling is that those who complain about crowds, turn up late 10am ish onwards, and ski front valley etc.
    I am actually amazed at how well perisher handles large crowds. As for Thredbo, its been my "home" mountain for the last 20 years, but its no place to be when its crowded.
     
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    absentskier Old n' Crusty Ski Pass: Gold

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    Copper ain't a Vail resort though! ;)
     
  41. Donza

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    Cause Perisher is 1365 Hectares
    Thredbo is 166
    Perisher spreads out people cause they are on links, on lifts , spread across such a huge area.
     
  42. benchives

    benchives Part of the Furniture Ski Pass: Gold

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    Haha I thought it was cause that David Andrews guy keeps flogging it!
     
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    Astro66 Still looking for a park in Thredbo Ski Pass: Gold

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    My 2 cents re Vail Group USA,

    Family of 3, all classed adults. 4 weeks in USA in highest peak period.. Rental car entire time. 3 weeks skiing. 2 weeks ski in / ski out at Park City and Breck.

    Under $10K all up. Why would you not do it ?

    My 2 cents re Perisher.

    Perisher has a bumper season, more cash to invest in keeping this season going longer, and next season opening earlier.

    For us season holders who commute to the mountains on weekends. Just more opportunity to get better bang for your buck.

    If you're on first lifts. By 10:30 you're ready too deal with larger queues. But options are still varied, if you're prepared to move around, and avoid peak areas at peak times.
     
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    They have sold ALOT of passes
     
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    Marty_McSly What a plonker. Ski Pass: Gold

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    And so it begins:

    Smart skiers and riders know that now is the time to plan your US winter holiday – no one can beat the variety of mountains, towns and terrain you can explore as a Vail Resorts guest.

    From the perfect apartment rental with a full kitchen to the hotel suite with breathtaking views of the world-famous Rocky Mountains, now's the time to book to ensure that you get exactly what you want and where you want.

    Visit our specials page for more information, it’s just for Australians. It’s here you can also explore our resorts and make sure you lock in the best rates of the season. Don’t miss the best accommodation deals – book before 7 September.​
     
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    Nidecker One of Us Ski Pass: Gold

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    From the Perisher Website Epic Tab
    "All purchasers of the Perisher Freedom Pass with Epic Benefits will receive their Epic Benefits card prior to November 2015."
    Does this line refer to the little piece of cardboard we received in the mail this week, or are we actually going to get RFID passes? Does anyone know yet?

    Edit: Astro, we will probs see you in Beaver Creek,
    just trying to figure out how I might recognise you on the mountain #bumblebee #astroisunmissable #ohmyeyeshurt :woohoo:
     
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    dawooduck relaxed and comfortable Ski Pass: Gold

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    $AU = 70US ..... savings
     
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    I got the little card too, with Lindsay Vonn pic lol. It says to go to any Vail Resort ticket office, show ID, sign a form , get pic taken, then hit the slopes. Doubt they would mail RFID cards to everyone as they don't know who is going to the states?
     
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    Lady Penelope One of some lot ... Ski Pass: Gold

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    I've signed up for the 2016 Epic pass but haven't received any little cards in the mail yet! Perhaps they're sending them out in alphabetical order (my surname is closer to z than a), or only to those booking US holidays.
     
  50. K_Bird

    K_Bird One of Us Ski Pass: Silver

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    I got the Lindsay Vonn card too, which does seem to directly contradict what the website said.

    I actually thought it was a really clever idea to mail out the proper RFID pass. It's a real tangible item in your hand to encourage a purchase decision. From a marketing point of view, these kind of tangibles are a huge factor in convincing the customer that they "own" something, and gloss over the fact that they need to spend more money to actually use it.

    Also, snow sports can tend to have a tribal mentality about them, so having a Vail card in hand makes the punter feel like part of the Vail family ... and that means booking the trip.
     
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