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Question Jagungal Routes

Discussion in 'Backcountry' started by skifree, Aug 21, 2019.

  1. skifree

    skifree A disciple of the blessed avi giraffe Moderator Ski Pass: Gold

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    Any field tested routes to Jagungal from say Munyang Power or Guthega?
     
  2. teleroo

    teleroo Waiting for winter... Ski Pass: Gold

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    Not too complicated is it? Just head up the hill and then you're into rolling country, mix of trees and no trees etc
     
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    telemark fred One of Us

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    Munyang to Schlink pass (road or aqueduct - your choice), or Guthega via trig and Tolling Ground to Schlink Pass - Schlink hut and up the creek to the east and along Kerries Ridge to Mawsons hut. Continue north through the saddle keeping Tarn Bluff and Cup and Saucer hill to the right, straight across Geehi and head straight to the Big J from there (you can see it once past Tarn Bluff - unless the weather is poor - so simply follow line of sight).

    We overnighted in Mawsons, and returned to there form Jagungal in a day.
     
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  4. skifree

    skifree A disciple of the blessed avi giraffe Moderator Ski Pass: Gold

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    Ta, it was the 2nd 1/2 of the route that looked to have some better or worse choices on the map. Will study your suggestions.

    No areas to avoid???
     
  5. teleroo

    teleroo Waiting for winter... Ski Pass: Gold

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    Sorry wasn't meaning to be flippant. More there is heaps of snow, creeks should be covered, so choose your own adventure. I guess trick is just to maintain position awareness in the rolling country if weather clags in. But grandma, eggs, suck.
     
  6. skifree

    skifree A disciple of the blessed avi giraffe Moderator Ski Pass: Gold

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    Didn’t cross my mind, I knew exactly what you meant, cos it sort of looks like your answer when looking at the map.

    There are some choices, like go round the Geehi or cross and go up the SSW spur or not?
     
  7. telemark fred

    telemark fred One of Us

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    Teleroo is right- with good cover and fairly flat terrain - just head in the direction you want to go.

    My route involves crossing Valentine river and Geehi relying on snow bridges. In lean cover, I'd go from Schlink pass over Gungartan pass and around to the East side of the Valentine river. Continue on the East side of Cup and Saucer, over mailbox hill and keep Bulls peaks to the right and along the upper Geehi until its crossable, then turn left and head for Jagungal from there. It's a fair bit longer than the more direct route I posted earlier. In Summer there is a trail from Big Brassy Peak to south of hte Bulls Peaks before it veers away East to Cessjacks hut.

    I've been in via Cessjacks hut too, but the Doubtful river can be hard to cross.
     
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    A good route (doesn't require getting wet feet) - from Mawsons head NW to Big Bend, rock hop across the Valentine, head up over Tarn Bluff and drop into the Geehi. Some good crossing here and stay on the western side of Geehi straight to Jagungal.
     
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  9. skifree

    skifree A disciple of the blessed avi giraffe Moderator Ski Pass: Gold

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    Thanks all, I've done some digi tracking now and you save something close to 500M in climbing leaving from Guthega, and add only a couple of km in distance. No great surprise given the altitudes of Guthega and Munyang.
     
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    telecrag Old n' Crusty Ski Pass: Gold

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    Ive gone in another way, requires a decent 4WD. Cessjacks.
     
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    If the weather is shitty and you want to get close for when it does clear up, it is pretty sheltered if you go via valentines hut from shlink pass.
     
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    Up dissapointment spur , head straight for Tin hut for lunch then maybe camp around Cup and Saucer. Easy out and back from there.
    Alternatively Cesjacks.

    If you are feeling particularly adventurous start at Burrungibugee.
     
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  13. skifree

    skifree A disciple of the blessed avi giraffe Moderator Ski Pass: Gold

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    I do like this if for no other reason than to poke about Disappointment Spur, might make that a separate day trip just for the fun of it.
     
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    Its disappointing.
     
  15. skifree

    skifree A disciple of the blessed avi giraffe Moderator Ski Pass: Gold

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    Bugger.
     
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    Off the road and actually on disappointment ridge is excellent. A great way to get to Tin
     
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    Depending on cover make your way up wherever you can. Can be woody down near the road, but once through the trees it is as @zapruda says.. but don't tell anyone.
     
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    A nice direct route, about 27km:



    Not sure that a Guthega departure is more efficient, but definitely more scenic.

    I concur with Disappointment Spur exit suggestions; a beautiful ski. Bridge near carpark has gone so a wade at the end.
     
  19. skifree

    skifree A disciple of the blessed avi giraffe Moderator Ski Pass: Gold

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    Looks good, ta muchly.
     
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    In low snow years/spring you might have trouble finding a snowbridge at The Big Bend. An alternative is to wade the Valentine at a ford just down from Mawsons Hut and follow the eastern side of the Valentine. We take a pair of light Crocs to protect feet from the rocks during the wade, much quicker to get across.
     
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    For fast and quick go the Jagungal Hwy
    GPS - Schlink - Mawsons - Big Bend - J
    Heaps of variations on the side roads.
    GPS to Schlink via either Disappointment Spur or the Horse Camp aqueducts.
    Schlink to J via Tin or Valentines Huts
    Schlink to J via Greymare or Cesjacks.
    There should be heaps of snow with good snow bridges.
    Enjoy!
     
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    The Big Bend route has an easy rock hopping crossing - definitely nicer than the compulsory wade at Mawsons.
     
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    How late into the season is the Horse Camp Hut aqueduct skiable?
     
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  24. skifree

    skifree A disciple of the blessed avi giraffe Moderator Ski Pass: Gold

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    Very very variable.
     
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    skifree A disciple of the blessed avi giraffe Moderator Ski Pass: Gold

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    Can anyone provide a recent condition report for Mawson Hut?
     
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    I was looking at the Map . The Fire trail up to Cesjack's hut looks like a good way to get close to the Big Bogong and the area in general. I must investigate in the coming green season.
     
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    Recent Obs- The direct route between Cesjacks and Jagungal Saddle involved a substantial amount of scrubby thick bush, some of which was head high. I would go a different way if wanting to do it this Winter. Possibly follow Doubdtfull Creek or follow the nice open ridge that Bulls Peak Fire Trail runs along before heading across. The Doubtful Creek tributary just below the saddle had one short scrubby section where the creek drops down steeply - coming down from J Saddle this spot can be seen a long way off ( large boulder on left where creek drops steeply ). Greg H reports that Tin Hut area now has become scrubbier to the West, South and some of the Northern areas near the Hut. I will be having a look around there and down Disapointment Ridge tops later this week. Things have been growing profusely with all the recent rainfalls.
     
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    Greg is right. The area between Tin and Gungartan Pass is full of really annoying thigh high scrub. I've walked between the two areas many times and haven't ever found a line I've been happy with. I have come across the remnants of an old road but its all but lost now. I walked it just last week and it was as bad as ever.
     
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    Bugger, Was going to try Horse Camp - G Pass to Tin on Thurs. Tin Hut was the objective. Can only manage a late start Wed so the goal was Horse Camp overnight Tin Hut Thurs, Disapointment Ridge Fri. Open to alternative suggestions with a late start ( about 4pm ) tomorow.
     
  30. telecrag

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    Thigh high is not chest high!
     
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    Kletterer Thredbo Doughnut Tragic Moderator

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    Yeah.Builds character.
     
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    I still think it’s still doable! It’s only a short section of scrub down to Tin. You have definitely had a lot worse. It’s just very annoying. Harder coming up it than down it as well.
     
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    Cool.Will do a Motion X record. If the line gets realy squiggly it will indicate the going was easy :D
     
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    skifree A disciple of the blessed avi giraffe Moderator Ski Pass: Gold

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    That’s not scrub.
     
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    Kletterer Thredbo Doughnut Tragic Moderator

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    Some of it was waist high on Thursday.
     
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    Short arse.
     
  37. skifree

    skifree A disciple of the blessed avi giraffe Moderator Ski Pass: Gold

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    Still not scrub.
     
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    If i wanted true scrub i would have gone to Back Range Creek.
     
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    Don’t be a pedant. “Scrub” is a descriptor. Nothing worse than a pissing much between bushwalkers trying to prove how tough they are.
     
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    skifree A disciple of the blessed avi giraffe Moderator Ski Pass: Gold

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    Disagree, just looking to improve the accuracy of information.
     
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    Great. Report back with accurate info when you have actually walked that section
     
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    skifree A disciple of the blessed avi giraffe Moderator Ski Pass: Gold

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    Good call, but if the progress rate was more than 250M /hour then it’s medium scrub.

    If I get the sack I’ll have time to venture that way this Winter.
     
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    One does not “walk” scrub!
     
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