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Japan 2010 - 2011 Trip Plans/Thoughts/Reviews Thread

Discussion in 'Japan' started by smitty484, Mar 24, 2010.

  1. smitty484

    smitty484 Old n' Crusty

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    <span style='font-size: 17pt'>Updated Crew List</span>


    The starting point for information on Japanese travel:
    http://wikiski.com/wiki/index.php/Category:Japan


    Hakuba
    fattwins: Hakuba resident
    damian: Hakuba resident
    timmyhugecans: Hakuba resident
    HakubaBCbum: Hakuba resident
    TJ: Hakuba resident
    Dave:Feb & March
    Sandy: 07 January - 09 January, 22 January - 26 January, 19 February - 22 February
    Trekky: Feb and March
    Loklok, son, daughter, and probably +1: Early Feb - one week
    Donza: 16 February - 03 March
    mjmmjm: 09 February - 02 March
    Petesguitar1 1+: 20 February - 05 March
    BPL, 1+ & kids: 24 January - 20 February
    stovemiester: 04 February - 17 February
    Mamabear: 10 January - 18 January
    Slim: 03 March - 10 March
    AndrewR: 10 December - 26 February
    Kimski: 20 February - 26 February
    Cregs: Mid Feb - Mid March
    K@os: 18 February - 26 February
    summit_32: 29 December - 07 January
    Risca1961: 31 December - 04 January
    darkrabbit: 03 January - 11 January
    Mark102: 02 January - 29 January
    loklok: 22 February - 28th February
    sara777: 05 February - 21 February
    GSea: 11 February - 21 February
    fdxrate: 2 February - 15 February
    churchy: 03 February - 07 February

    Nozawa Onsen
    Fat Boy: Nozawa resident
    Sandy: Long weekend January
    smackies +3: 20 February - 25 February
    Slim: 24 February - 02 March
    Kimski: 27 February - 06 March
    Risca1961: 04 January - 07 January
    TotalyRottn: 14 January - 16 January
    Tommmm: 31 December - 08 January
    pigface and cin + partners: 20 February - 25 February
    Sandy: 27 January - 30 January

    Myoko Kogen
    Myoko Guy: March
    Sandy: Long weekend in February
    Born2Ski: 12 January - 29 January
    snowjunky: 02 February - 09 February
    JT & Japanuary Crew: 16 January - 31 January
    Risca1961: 07 January - 10 January

    Madarao Kogen
    TJ: 19 February for day trip

    Shiga Kogen
    Sandy: A few days in February
    snowjunky: 11 February - 18 February
    TotalyRottn: 17 January - 24 January
    pigface and cin + partners: 25 February - 29 February
    YehYeh: February 7 - February 19
    churchy: 08 February - 12 February

    Kagura/Naeba/Yuzawa
    DeesOnSkis: Late January 2011
    Sandy: Late February, and some days in March.
    Sandy: 03 January - 05 January

    Hokkaido
    Weekender 6 person crew: 07 February - 15 February (Niseko and further two weeks TBA)
    malibu: Tomamu - 29 December - 02 January (with some day trips to powder fun elsewhere)
    fifa: Tomamu, Furano, Asahikawa Feb 6th for a few weeks.
    kieranskis: Tomamu - 17 February - 22 February
    Rabid K9: Western Hokkaido - All of February

    Niseko
    Go Native: Niseko Resident
    OpTic: Mid to late January
    Mamabear's #2 bearcub: 31 December - 02 March
    pat42 + GF: Niseko and surrounds for 3 weeks in jan.
    tdc: 16 January - 22 January
    Smitty484: 12 February - 16 February
    RatherB@thesnow: 05 February - 14 February
    Tex + 5: 19 January - 29 January (WOOHOO)
    Mrstr_Chief: 18 January - 28 January
    Crispy013: 26 January - 05 February
    Weekender: 7 February - 14 February
    beexy + few mates: 10 days, dates unknown.
    Neslot: 25 January - 22 February
    Vermillion: 14 February - 21 February
    Mamabear: 18 January - 25 January
    Glider: 16 January - 24 January
    SnowDogg: 03 March - 10 March
    kieranskis: 07 February - 17 February
    PiedPiper: 24 February - 04 March
    rugbyskier: 24 January - 28 January

    Furano
    FuranoFreshPow: Resident
    spaceman347: 6 weeks from December
    Smitty484: 02 February - 07 February
    smackies +3: 11 February - 20 February (+ Kamui, Asahidake, Tomamu)
    McNads: 12 February - 19 February
    Mrstr_Chief: 29 January - 03 February
    Weekender: 15 February - 21 February
    malibu: 02 January - 14 January
    SnowDogg: 25 February - 03 March
    freddy: 3 months from mid-January
    rugbyskier: 30 January - 05 February

    Rusutsu
    Smitty484: 07 February - 12 February
    RatherB@thesnow: 02 February - 05 February
    McNads: 05 February - 12 February
    tdc: January 11 - January 16

    Other - add in name(s) of resorts
    Sandy @ Minakami: 06 January

    All over the shop:
    Annago +3: Jan 11 to Feb 2 - Hakuba, Nozawa, Myoko
    Mamabear +3: 12th to 25th Jan. Hakuba and Niseko
    DeesOnSkis: Jan 10-25 Yuzawa, Minakami, and Katashina
    K@os: February 12 - February 17: Honshu
    SkiandRideGuide: All over Hokkaido and Honshu in February

    Still deciding:
    Petesguitar1 +1: Mid Feb, back in March
    Ceecee: 01 February - 21 February
    ianski: 10 days in March

    Accommodation
    http://wikiski.com/wiki/index.php/Category:Japan (search by region)

    Travel:
    http://wikiski.com/wiki/index.php/Category:Japan#Transport

    Snow reports and forecasts:
    http://wikiski.com/wiki/index.php/Category:Japan#Climate

    Back Country
    http://www.myokokogen.org/mbss/english/index_e.php
    http://myokokogen.net/nordic.htm
    http://steepdeepjapan.com
    http://nisekosnow.net/niseko-backcountry/index.php

    Maps
    Akakan Resort
    Akakura Onsen
    Hakuba
    Nozawa Onsen
     
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  2. M_G

    M_G M_G_ = Make skiing great again Ski Pass: Gold

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    Nothing like an early start Smitty! [​IMG]
     
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  3. d15812

    d15812 Guest

    I've booked the Sydney - Tokyo leg already. Got in early to secure business class return on FF points [​IMG]
     
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  4. smitty484

    smitty484 Old n' Crusty

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    [​IMG] how long you going back to Furano for? Im thinking of basing myself there for part of the trip next year, but use it to get around to the other resorts in the area...I am planning on having a car.
     
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  5. Donza

    Donza Pool Room

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    Wake me in November..
    Or if there is a good sale on seats.
     
  6. smitty484

    smitty484 Old n' Crusty

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    Never too early to start dreaming about the snow again [​IMG]
     
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  7. Donza

    Donza Pool Room

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    Not sure if this has been posted
     
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  8. McNads

    McNads One of Us

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    I'll be going back to Hokkaido to do virtually the same trip as the last 2 - 1 week at Rusutsu & 1 week at Furano. Considered multiple other options including Canada, but the most important thing to me is as many relatively uncrowded pow days as I can get for my buck. That being said, I don't think there is any more safe option then 'the other' resorts in Hokkaido.

    Added to this, I now know the resorts very well, where to find a plethora of hidden gems. I may not know them all, but I certainly know of enough to keep me satisfied. Will be there from Feb 5 through Feb 19.
     
  9. d15812

    d15812 Guest

    I'll be there for approx 6 weeks again. I've got friends there now and I love the noodles from Ramen Corner [​IMG]
     
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  10. Mark102

    Mark102 A Local

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    I'll probably be heading back to Hakuba again. Would be pretty keen to try some other resorts though If I can get some more time off work.

    Already bought some new skis in preparation for Japan BC lines so I have to go now!!! [​IMG]
     
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  11. bdenny4

    bdenny4 One of Us Ski Pass: Gold

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    Yeah still deciding but it looks like the following for 2011:

    Feb: Nozawa Onsen and Shiga Kogen for a week

    Sept: Canada autumn sightseeing trip
     
  12. damian

    damian A Local

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    What did you get?
     
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  13. seekandstrike

    seekandstrike First Runs

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    Id say we'd be going back. Id like to go to Hokkaido this time though, any thoughts/recommendations where to stay? Or it will be back to Shiga Kogen for a week or so.
     
  14. smitty484

    smitty484 Old n' Crusty

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    Take some time and read up on the Japanese resorts in Wikiski
     
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    seekandstrike First Runs

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    Yer, Ill do some reasearch. Thanks smitty for the site. But can anybody recommend an area that has steep terrain, and good powder runs (depending on snowfall) on the north island from previous experiences?
     
  16. Heinz

    Heinz Old n' Crusty Ski Pass: Gold

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    Hokkaido is a big place, but basically there is a choice of two main regions.
    1. Niseko and surrounds including Rusutsu which is pretty well documented.
    2. Central Hokkaido with Furano being a good place to base. Furano itself have some steepish runs and you can sample a number of different areas on day trips eg. Asahidake, Kamui, Tomamu, Sahoro and Tokachi for BC.

    There are plenty of other small resorts about the place with a few near Sapporo but the above two options would be the first options.

    oh and it is Hokkaido, so you are always going to find powder.
     
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  17. Heinz

    Heinz Old n' Crusty Ski Pass: Gold

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    As for myself, I have no idea this far out, Japan or elsewhere.
     
  18. damian

    damian A Local

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    Anyone thinking about doing a full season here, the proper way - with no work, just skiing/boarding?

    For me: there is still 2 months of good skiing to go, with a few scrappy days in June. Next winter still seems like a lifetime away but I aim to hit Hokkaido in late March with the campervan for a few weeks
     
  19. smitty484

    smitty484 Old n' Crusty

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    damian a full season of just boarding would rock! Unfortunately my money tree isn't that big [​IMG]
     
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  20. damian

    damian A Local

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    My guess: 60,000 yen per month for accommodation. 60,000 for season ticket. 60,000 yen per month for food and limited booze (more than enough!). Living in Japan for 3 months for 100 days on snow = about $5500, and you could do it far cheaper. Plus flight and travel expenses.

    Solution: Only get drunk once a month for the next 9 months. Don't go to the snow in Australia this winter. Don't buy anything new. Save every cent.

    Oh, add on $1000 for beacon, shovel, probe, backpack, snowshoes and hiking poles. Essential in this country if you want to make the most of it for a full season. Thats not a season expense, it is an investment in your future (trust me). But it will lead to a splitboard, and they are not cheap.
     
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  21. smitty484

    smitty484 Old n' Crusty

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    You make it sound very tempting. I was actually looking at 2 months next season (Jan and feb)I have to be back in march for uni. However a friend and I are going to go to Europe the following June so I had to postpone it. However the costs you just posted are very doable indeed!!
     
  22. damian

    damian A Local

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    Uni student, and I assume no wife, mortgage, kids or oppressive debt. It doesn’t really matter where you choose to do a season of fulltime riding, now is a very good time to do it.
     
  23. Mark102

    Mark102 A Local

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    [​IMG] 192cm DPS Lotus 138 [​IMG]
     
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  24. Snow Addict

    Snow Addict Part of the Furniture

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    Back to snowboarding eh Mark? [​IMG]
     
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  25. zhenjie

    zhenjie Hard Yards

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    An uber cheap Jetstar sale.....http://www.jetstar.com/au/en/cheap-flights/2for1-japan.aspx?utm_source=jq_home&utm_medium=banner&utm_campaign=japan_2for1_sale_20100325

    oh wait. NADEALS I'd love for you to comment on this sale? I thought JAL was going bankrupt and other airlines weren't going to have sales this year? I think Jetstar have had 3 sales since you posted that comment.
     
  26. smitty484

    smitty484 Old n' Crusty

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    Still a little too early for pow turns, but it is a step in the right direction. [​IMG]
     
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  27. damian

    damian A Local

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    Well, they should be big enough for the big days! (Keep in mind though, Happo backbowls are not always powder, or at least not powder+stable+good vis at the same time – in fact they are far less reliable than areas not quite as accessible from the lifts).
     
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  28. Donza

    Donza Pool Room

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    If anyones keen to goto Hokkaido it seems the flights are better timed now.
    See below
    Flight 1 Monday, January 17, 2011

    Departure: 9:20AM Sydney, Australia - Kingsford Smith, terminal 1
    Arrival: 5:10PM Tokyo, Japan - Narita, terminal 2
    Airline: Japan Airlines JL772 e
    Aircraft: Boeing 777-200/300
    Operated by Jalways

    Change of plane required. Time between flights = 1:30.

    Flight 2 Monday, January 17, 2011

    Departure: 6:40PM Tokyo, Japan - Narita, terminal 2
    Arrival: 8:25PM Sapporo, Japan - Chitose
     
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    rangerider A Local

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    The 777's are great I reckon except there is no aircon thingy above your head. I'd prefer a777-200 to a 747 any day of the week, in cattle class anyway.
     
  30. Donza

    Donza Pool Room

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    JAL's 747's are very old and tired. Especially the ones that used to fly Osaka - Syd
    So yeah 777 all the way.
     
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  31. rangerider

    rangerider A Local

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    I love it that Japanese don't go looking for the spare seats. Geez they're great. We're always all over it.
     
  32. Donza

    Donza Pool Room

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    I don't love it when find a spare seat or three -while your wife is asleep..
    she wakes up and panics and can't find you....
     
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    zairaong First Runs

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  34. Petesguitar1

    Petesguitar1 Hard Yards

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    Just waiting for the Jet* birthday sale [​IMG] Reckon we'll do minimum 2 weeks next year, sometime around Feb. Now where did I put that credit card?
     
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  35. bdenny4

    bdenny4 One of Us Ski Pass: Gold

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    Looking at this years paperwork - I booked my Jet* 2 for 1 deal on June 16th June 2009.

    So, maybe they will release a similar deal in just under three months time.
    If so, I'm booking!

    Nozawa back I come
     
  36. smitty484

    smitty484 Old n' Crusty

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    Been spending this morning getting some ideas together for next winter. Looks like I will be in Japan from 21 Jan to the 5th Feb with 14 nights on snow. Thinking we fly into Chitose, pick up a car...spend 2 nights in Kiroro Snow World, 4 in Niseko, 5 in Furano and 3 in Tomamu. Then I can hit up other places as day trips with the car.
     
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    Looking at three weeks in Feb. My mates want to go back to Nozawa. I want to check out Zao and somwhere in Hokkaido.

    Lots of planning time ahead.
     
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    smitty484 Old n' Crusty

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    Updated Crew List

    Hakuba

    Nozawa Onsen

    Myoko Kogen

    Shiga Kogen

    Kagura/Naeba

    Hokkaido
    Smitty484: Jan 21 - Feb 05 (Kiroro Snow World, Niseko, Furano, Tomamu and places in between) Possibly 6, could end up with just me. Haha.
    McNads: Rusutsu Feb 5 - Feb 19

    Niseko

    Furano
    spaceman347: 6 weeks from December
    McNads: Feb 5 - Feb 19

    All over the shop:
    smackies: February for 3 weeks

    Travel
    http://www.hyperdia.com/cgi-english/hyperWeb.cgi - Train timetables and fares
    http://keinanbus.com/english/index_e.htm Transfer bus - Myoko and snow resort transfers
    http://myoko-nojiri.com/access/
    http://www.jreast.co.jp/e/eastpass/
    http://www.jreast.co.jp/e/charge/index.asp

    Accommodation
    http://myoko-nojiri.com/hotels/ - look for the links to each resort area
    http://www.naganogo.com/nozawa-onsen-accomodation/
    http://www.ski-resorts-japan.com/resort-accommodation
    http://nozawaonsen.com/english.html
    http://hakubaconnect.com/
    http://www.whitehorse-hakuba.com
    http://www.penkepanke.com/english/ (Hakuba)
    http://www.hakubalunahotel.com

    Snow reports
    http://myokokogen.net/weather.html
    http://www.naganogo.com/places/nozawa-onsen/
    http://www.snowjapan.com - look for [Resort Name] Now! reports

    Snow forecast
    http://www.snow-forecast.com
    http://myokokogen.net/snow_alert.html - snow reports/forecast by email

    Back Country
    http://www.myokokogen.org/mbss/english/index_e.php
    http://myokokogen.net/nordic.htm
    http://steepdeepjapan.com
     
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  39. smitty484

    smitty484 Old n' Crusty

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    Feel free to edit the list, I just thought I would get the ball rolling.
     
  40. skiflat

    skiflat Old n' Crusty

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    You are heading back again smitty [​IMG]
     
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    Cham One of Us

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    Man....already.....you don't waste any time ;-)
     
  42. smitty484

    smitty484 Old n' Crusty

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    [​IMG] Well normally i'm not this anal, but with possibly a few people coming on the trip, I wanted dates set so that if Jet* sale fares pop up we can all just book at once.
     
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    M_G M_G_ = Make skiing great again Ski Pass: Gold

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    Still life in this season - bucketing down with snow today. Japanese school holidays at present so you should see the crowd at Tangram.
     
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  44. Poppy

    Poppy Hard Yards

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    Noticed Jet* have 2 for 1 fares to Melb&gt;Gold Coast&gt; Osaka today offers ends on the 31st MARCH!!
     
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  45. smitty484

    smitty484 Old n' Crusty

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    Yes I'm hoping they extend the offer to cover next winter. Fingers crossed
     
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    Annago Hard Yards Ski Pass: Gold

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    Hakuba-Nozawa-Myoko is the current plan Jan10-31. Four of us this time.
     
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    stovemiester First Runs

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    Niseko - Hakuba - Nozawa - Shiga for three weeks in Feb i hope.
     
  48. sli1

    sli1 One of Us

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    Kiroro sucks. Nice modern base facilities, english signs, english speakers and just sooooo flat.
     
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    damian A Local

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    Got some nice backcountry though.
     
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    sli1 One of Us

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    Damian, we did go backcountry there and yes, an afternoon tour outside the resort was fantastic. The snow quality was excellent:

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