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Japan 2012- 2013 Trip Plans/Thoughts/Reviews Thread

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  1. smitty484

    smitty484 Old n' Crusty Ski Pass: Gold

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    The starting point for information on Japanese travel:
    http://wikiski.com/wiki/index.php/Category:Japan


    Hakuba
    fattwins: Hakuba resident
    damian: Hakuba resident
    HakubaBCbum: Hakuba resident
    TJ: Hakuba resident
    itchy_knee: Hakuba resident
    Tackie: Hakuba resident, Christmas - March.
    Slim: 21 January - 24 January
    webberchoked: 18 January - 21 January
    Vermillion: 11 January - 27 January

    Nozawa Onsen
    Fat Boy: Nozawa resident
    FLI335: 18 January - 28 January
    Pelm1: 30 January - 26 February
    webberchoked: 01 February - 03 March

    Myoko Kogen
    Slim: 25 January - 31 January
    skichanger: Winter resident
    malibu: 29 December - 05 January
    Insaneous: 25 January - 05 February
    webberchoked: 04 March - 14 March

    Madarao Kogen
    malibu: December 23 - December 29

    Shiga Kogen
    malibu: January 09 - January 17

    Kagura/Naeba/Yuzawa

    Hokkaido

    Niseko
    sourmash: 23 December - 04 January
    Texy and family: 18 January - 25 January
    webberchoked: 18 December - 12 January

    Furano
    FuranoFreshPow: Resident

    Rusutsu

    Dynaland, Gifu

    Other - add in name(s) of resorts

    All over the shop:
    smackies (the wanderer): January 2012 - depletion of funds

    Still deciding:

    Accommodation
    http://wikiski.com/wiki/index.php/Category:Japan (search by region)

    Travel:
    http://wikiski.com/wiki/index.php/Category:Japan#Transport
    For help out calculating routes and highway tolls in English - https://www.navitime.co.jp/en/

    Snow reports and forecasts:
    http://wikiski.com/wiki/index.php/Category:Japan#Climate

    Back Country
    http://www.dancingsnow.com/
    http://myokokogen.net/nordic.htm
    http://steepdeepjapan.com
    http://nisekosnow.net/niseko-backcountry/index.php
    Hakuba Avalanche Bulletin: http://nadare.jp/alert/index.html

    Maps
    Akakan Resort
    Akakura Onsen
    Hakuba
    Nozawa Onsen

    Similar Threads
    Nozawa Onsen
    Furano
    Myoko
    Niseko
    Hakuba
     
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  2. smitty484

    smitty484 Old n' Crusty Ski Pass: Gold

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    Last of the Japanese crew thread are currently in the backcountry, so time to get next year's thread underway.

    Go.
     
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    Bloody hell Smitty, only got back exactly 4 weeks ago today.

    Still got NZ 2012 to go [​IMG]

    Anyway +1 liked Hotel Alp at Myoko, so I think we'll be back. Try and get there a bit earlier next year, maybe just after school hols are over [​IMG]
     
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    I think you should bring TOFFS thread into this one
     
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    TOFF Im kind of a big deal Ski Pass: Gold

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    i can make that happen.
     
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    TOFF Im kind of a big deal Ski Pass: Gold

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    actually, no I cant.
    i need a ski travel mod to do it for me.
     
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    smitty484 Old n' Crusty Ski Pass: Gold

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    smitty484 Old n' Crusty Ski Pass: Gold

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    smitty484 Old n' Crusty Ski Pass: Gold

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    smitty484 Old n' Crusty Ski Pass: Gold

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    smitty484 Old n' Crusty Ski Pass: Gold

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    smitty484 Old n' Crusty Ski Pass: Gold

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    smitty484 Old n' Crusty Ski Pass: Gold

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    Ok that looks to be the main bits from the other thread
     
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    TOFF Im kind of a big deal Ski Pass: Gold

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    Would have just been easier to get a mod to do it.
     
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    Jeebers. Early thread start.
     
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    Smitty you must be so busy, being unemployed and all.

    BTW I will be in a combination of Hakuba, Nozawaonsen and I am trying to get to either Shiga or Myoko. This is in the 2nd half of Jan, I am not confirmed on dates yet though.

    Peeps/residents of the forum in these towns with accomodation, come at me.
     
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    TOFF Im kind of a big deal Ski Pass: Gold

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    thought you were going to Tahoe?
     
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    smitty484 Old n' Crusty Ski Pass: Gold

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    u m4d your tax dollars pay for me to lie in bed and post on the ski forum?
     
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    Nice one Smitty - 2012/13 Crew Chief

    I know it's early but I missed this season and need something to daydream about at work.

    Me + 7
    Out Jetstar Dec 22
    Madarao Dec 23 to Dec 29 - locked in
    Myoko Dec 29 to Jan 5 - locked in

    Then unsure;
    Could be Shiga and Naeba Jan 5 to Jan 13
    Could be a Zao and Appi combo roughly same dates

    Tokyo 2-3 nights then home on around the 17th
     
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    Who wants to gift me a season's worth of accomodation in Hakuba? Anyone?

    Verm, you know there's no elephant rides right? You have to go back to Thailand for that one.
     
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    sheesh it was Vietanm and he rode a Tuk tuk
     
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    smitty484 Old n' Crusty Ski Pass: Gold

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    I'll take some too please.....accommodation in Hakuba that is, Verm can keep the elephants.
     
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    I'm comforted the notion that your arse is getting bigger each day ..
     
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    Cripes. That's worse.
     
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    TOFF Im kind of a big deal Ski Pass: Gold

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    Haggled on the price too!
     
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    A little bit. But I am more m4d that you havent sorted out those ****ing singlets yet. Actually you are right, I am quite m4d. I think i'll cheat on my taxes a little more now.
     
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    Poor troll is poor. I did not go to Thailand.
     
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    Considering the history of his ass I would be worried by this statement.
     
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    At least I tried to imagine a better holiday for you.
     
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    I'm worried if he stayed in Japan for longer than 6 weeks his arse would be truely huge..
     
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    If he'd gone to Tahoe for 6 weeks his ass would be a different kind of huge.
     
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    Team Spaceman will be in Furano next season from Dec 20 - mid Feb.
     
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    Can't decide between going back to Myoko, or trying Niseko. Once again the availability and quality of english speaking ski schools for the kids is the biggest factor in deciding where to go. The Myoko guys were so very good this year.

    The main issue at the moment is if we go at all, I've been wasting money on the house of late.
     
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    Hey Mark - can relate to the wastinh money on house bit. So the Myoko ski school was good? We're looking at Japan for next year and as you say, ski school is probably the biggest factor in deciding where to go. We will have a 4 yo and 13 yo next year if we go. May also have friends with a 6 yo and 2 yo so would need child care as well.

    Anyone out there been to Nozawa with young kids?
     
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    Would stay up near gondola with kids that young.
     
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    Can't speak for Nozawa as I haven't been there yet, but on the basis of travelling with kids I would go Myoko over Hakuba. Nothing against Hakuba, but the Myoko Snowsports guys were great and if you are used to taking the kids to the snow in Aus, the basic format is the same. You drop the kids off in the morning they provide lunch and you pick up at 3 ish. We were specifically trying to avoid having to come back to meet up with the kids to provide lunch, lots of ski schools in Japan seem to do that. We were also looking for English speaking group lessons, private lessons are easier to find.

    I could bore people lots about how good the Myoko Snowsports guys are, but the best illustration I can give is that on our first day it was my son's 7th birthday. I had not mentioned it, they noticed from the booking form, they arranged a cake for lunch, they decorated his helmet up with a big birthday boy banner, every instructor made a point of saying a big hearty happy birthday. That evening I went looking unsuccessfully for something that resembled a birthday cake, as I returned to the hotel, there was Tom from the snow school dropping off a birthday cake for us to have with dinner, he said he thought it would be too hard for us to organise do he took the liberty of getting one for us. That was not the only example of the level of service they provided, but it was one of my favourite things on the trip.
     
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    [​IMG]

    some byway
     
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    Thanks for the info Mark. Sounds like Myoko could be the go. Can I ask where you stayed and what it was like?
     
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    Anywhere specific you would recommend FB? (I take it you are referring to Nozawa).
     
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    Best to stay in Akakura Dave6 within easy walk to MSS - Alp, Moc, etc. Check the Akakura map listed in Post 1.
     
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    I stayed at the Hotel Alp and it was very nice. The owner is very welcomming and helpful.

    I went to the Windsor for an Aussie Day celebration and it had quite a good atmosphere as well and although I didnt go inside I saw the Moc and it is very close to the gondola at Kanko.

    The Alp only does dinners if they are pre arranged, they dont open like a restaurant every evening, however you can pre book to eat there each night. The only issue we had with the littlies is that due to the amount of snow we had (3 odd metres in 3-4 days) it became increasingly difficult for them to walk down the icy road to the town when we went out for dinner. It is not a big walk, about 100 to 200 metres, but it is down a slippery road if it is snowing.

    The Windsor while being a little more out of the way (but not too much) had its own restaurant, so if conditions were bad a late decision could be made to stay in. On the other hand the Alp is situated on a ski run, so at the end of the ski day you can ski right to the door.

    Obviously ther are plenty more places to stay, but with 4 kids our choices were a little limited and based on reading the forums it appears as though the Moc, Alp and Windsor get a large chunk of the Aussie groups. If you plan on hiring a car I would probably avoid the Alp, as I saw a few cars lose control on the road up to the parking lot, but like I said 3ish metres in 3-4 days [​IMG] .
     
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    Yep, I'll be here in Hakuba with bells on. I've been riding some of the best conditions of the season over the last week and now we hit spring time so I haven't started to dream about next season yet.
    Nice story about the birthday boy MarkGC. Those type of things make a big impact on a holiday. In regards to ski schools, we have two here in Hakuba that focus on the foreign market. Hakuba Snow Sports and Evergreen. I know that HSS offer the full day for the kids including lunch.
    Just a side note. This time last year we had an empty board and inquiries flatlined. Seems that the guinea pigs were released this season and all returned without harm. Lots of inquiries coming through re accom so thankyou to all those who supported the industry here this season. [​IMG]
     
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    Address Nagasaka would be the go , brand new self contained apartments right next to gondola.Easier walking short stroll down to village for dinner rather than trying to get kids up the hill each morning with all their gear. I would have said my place but we are trying to keep little kids out [​IMG]
     
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