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Japan 2015

Discussion in 'Japan' started by hatto, Mar 19, 2014.

  1. Sandy

    Sandy Dark Sith Lord of the Pool Room Moderator Ski Pass: Gold

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    But what I'm saying is that if you want powder, think outside the box.... or you will probably be disappointed.
     
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  2. M_G

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    Yep agreed. I suggested to some people last week that they hit up Ikenotaira. They were the only guests that came back happy that afternoon.
     
  3. Born2ski

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    Over 500 resorts in Japan. Head to the resorts that most Aussies don't venture to and when it snows you'll have endless powder runs.

    My 1pm lines.
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  4. Born2ski

    Born2ski Part of the Furniture

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    Yes Ikenotaira is like the piggy in the middle that many powder hungry westerners ignore. They hit up Kanko or head over to Suginohara but forget little Ikenotaira.
     
  5. DPS Driver

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    So true Sandy.

    I've skied great quality untracked knee deep powder 10 days after the last snowfall, in Niseko. You've just got to know where to go and work a little and the rewards are there.
     
  6. mannyk

    mannyk One of Us Ski Pass: Gold

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    Today its my turn, wheels up, :woohoo:
     
  7. BoofHead

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    Enjoy
     
  8. 1dayasalion

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    Queenstown to Aukland this arvo, Aukland to Narita tonight. Absolutely frothing with anticipation!!!!
     
  9. Crispy013

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    Trying out Charmant Hiuichi today before I fly out tomorrow. Place is amazingly beautiful, but absolutely tracked out since last weekends dump. On it's day, I think this place would be off the chart. I'm about one of 8 on the hill today :p. Still some nice sneaky stashes to be found though. The bc looks unbelievable. Some much potential here. Looks like this place is going to be pumped Sunday and Monday - so jealous I couldn't stick around. Some piccies from this morning below:

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  10. BoofHead

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    Stunning
     
  11. M_G

    M_G M_G_ = Make skiing great again Ski Pass: Gold

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    Yep, when it's on, it's really on! Went there with Malibu a couple of seasons ago and it was absolutely pumping. Came back to Myoko and .... nothing.
     
  12. Crispy013

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    Found some unbelievable side country runs skiers right of the top lift. Got in 3 beautiful untracked runs before being told off by ski patrol. Damn!! :tany:

    On the right aspects, the snow is lovely and creamy. Couldn't ask for a better day to finish the season on.

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  13. DPS Driver

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    Base stability in that area has obviously settled? Otherwise I would be questioning my route selection if things are still dicey. Just sayin'. Classic terrain trap.
    Apart from that it looks awesome.
     
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  14. blutek

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    Tomamu was empty too today
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    'do not ski out of bounds warning' at Gate1
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  15. M_G

    M_G M_G_ = Make skiing great again Ski Pass: Gold

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    With tracks leading straight past the sign!
     
  16. blutek

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    It's going to be -17C tonight. Could be a late start tomorrow.
     
  17. dawooduck

    dawooduck relaxed and comfortable Ski Pass: Gold

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    No words can describe the stupidity of posting stuff like this
     
  18. mick chopps

    mick chopps Pool Room Ski Pass: Gold

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    Got this photo yesterday from a mate who received it from friends in Niseko currently.
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    Can somebody pls explain to me why I should want to go here, ever....
    Yuck. Do not want.
     
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  19. Vermillion

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    Because you ski like this:
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  20. mick chopps

    mick chopps Pool Room Ski Pass: Gold

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    That's generous, I can't ride switch to save myself... ;)
     
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  21. Vermillion

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    At least you're trying.
     
  22. essjaywhy

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    well annupuri summit has some challenging terrain and tours off it. no real steeps but.
    those lovely photos above - pretty tepid terrain
    so most of the talk on this web is all about pow, which is fine for a little while annd for intermediates,
    but the golden ratio is : weather / sno quality / adv terrain / low # punters / access and affordability
    you can find it pretty well in japan; but i will never return to a field if the terrain is lame ~
     
  23. MisterMxyzptlk

    MisterMxyzptlk Old n' Crusty Ski Pass: Gold

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    You like dentists?
     
  24. M_G

    M_G M_G_ = Make skiing great again Ski Pass: Gold

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    At least the boot packing is easy...
     
  25. mick chopps

    mick chopps Pool Room Ski Pass: Gold

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    And there's a couple of hundred people to dig you out after they bury you...
     
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  26. Heinz

    Heinz Old n' Crusty Ski Pass: Gold

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    Back in 1990 there were probably about the same number of people doing that 15-20min walk. The main difference was back then all but one ;) skied back down the groomed trail after taking a few happy snaps,
     
  27. Sandy

    Sandy Dark Sith Lord of the Pool Room Moderator Ski Pass: Gold

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    And meanwhile, in a less crowded part of Japan:

    A bit of steep and deep:
    2nd set of tracks are mine, + 4 mates next!! :D



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  28. Black Mountain

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    I don't usually like to have a go online but this post makes me mad. There is a reason the patrol told you off (I wish they had a policy to pull passes too). That area you mentioned is half a turn away from not making it back to the resort. It's a massive trap that you'd have to be pulled out of (like the gulley skiers right of the top lift at Akakan). To get there you either had to duck ropes or go straight past signs telling you to stop. All of the 'side country ' and BC that you can see from the top leads into a huge river (or dam if you go far enough). Being so close to the sea you also get weather moving in very fast and it goes from peaceful to furious in a heartbeat. Stay on the resort there or go with a local guide. That place is one accident away from tightening the screws big time. They constantly have stuff posted on their FB page in Japanese about the idiots who disobey the signs. Also, on a powder day there are a lot more people than just 8 on the hill. It gets packed in a hurry.
     
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  29. Rush

    Rush Pool Room Ski Pass: Gold

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    I'll be there next week.
     
  30. Rush

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    Seriously though, what's the big deal? Reminds me of boot packing up to Spanky's ladder at Blackcomb. Should be awesome (but not as steep).
     
  31. Crispy013

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    Maybe I should clarify. Looking up at the top lift I went out the back past the little restaurant and took a right back towards the bottom lift. The visibility was excellent and there was no chance of storms rolling in on the day I was there. The terrain was also very mellow and fed into a natural half pipe that eventually ended at a small dam structure. I was very careful to test the stability of the snow pack on my first run and also to see that I could exit back to the bottom lift. At no point was I barning down loaded slopes in excess of 30 deg or those baking in the sun. I must admit that the temps were warming up, but that side of the mountain was in shade which held the snow in good shape. Those initial photos I posted were looking out to the backcountry skiers left if that makes sense. There was no way I'd go down those slopes without the proper gear and guiding services.
     
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  32. TJ

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    The terrain you are talking about is skiers left. If you send people skiers right as you mentioned, they will die. FKN HELL.
    Lets start with lessons on skiers left or right or lookers left or right. If you don't know that you should not be giving directions for anything.
     
  33. Black Mountain

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    That's why I was upset TJ. Skiers right from the top lift is skull and crossbones territory. BC at that resort is no joke.
     
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    Still not many in madarao born2ski?
     
  37. Born2ski

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    They are there but didn't see as many this trip, they are well and truly outnumbered by Japanese school groups.
     
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    Only 3 days until I finally hit the slopes..

    I must say, I was pretty happy with the days Japan served up for my visit to Fuji Kawaguchico. Perfect views of Fuji-San from my Onsen yesterday arvo, and then topped off with today where I think I took my best photo ever (pity it was only on the Iphone)
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    That's epic. On an iPhone? Sheesh
     
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    and a shitty old iphone 4s as well :eek:
     
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  41. almontyrat

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    Sorry for the dredging of an old post.....How do you find the hotel or ryokan email address Verm? I've had a dig through some listings on Rakuten Japan site but can't find any direct contact information. I'm in the process of planning my next solo trip and would like to contact various accommodation providers for some preliminary information.
     
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    If you try to contact direct you may not hear back at this time of year. Either their English is not good enough or they haven't made any plans for next season yet.
     
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  43. Vermillion

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    Zaoonsen today. Saviour it, it doesnt look like this very often:
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    Great pic! My +1 and I are considering a day or two there next year (as part of a bigger trip to Japan, of course).
     
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    speaking of Zao, how sensible and feasible is it to include it within a 7-10 day ski trip which would also include Myoko? Do you reckon given the limited time ( 7-10 days) it is best to do one or the other bearing in mind the logistics of having to go back to Tokyo to get to them (assuming one is relying on public transport)?
     
  46. Bluebird

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    We are looking at doing similar but over 14 days!
     
  47. Heinz

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    Feasible but not really sensible as you do have to track back to Tokyo. If you had 2 weeks it would work ok to break up the skiing but not 1 week. Better to combine Myoko with Nozawa or Hakuba or combine Zao with Alts Bandai, Inawashiro or places further north.
     
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    That would make more sense.
     
  49. Vermillion

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    This.

    It's not impossible but a little impractical to leave great snow in Nagano to get to great snow in Yamagata. I'm sure Heinz will agree with me, Zao is like Mt Buller. It's a big mountain in the middle of smaller mountains and the pic above happens approximately twice per season (a proven calculated statistic).

    If you want to do 2 weeks it's more feasible, but even then you're pushing it. If I was going up that way for a week I would be going to Aizu (nango for some touring and Takatsue for general awesome skiing) then going to Inawarshiro for at least a few days to go through the 3 or so decent resorts in that region. Then you can go to Zao but the chances of a day like the pic above are slim, trust me, so you want 3 days minimum here (even that is no guarantee). There's a few things to do in and around Zao, and also a trip down to Yamagata is possible, along with a few other smaller resorts, but i'm talking 2 weeks right there already, at least. And for the trip you've made you want to make the most of it.

    The only reason I get up and around this area is because I am based very close to Nasushiobara shink station, so it's relatively close for me. Otherwise, I would find it would make absolutely no sense to leave Hakuba + the surrounding hills (Seaside, Charmant etc), Myoko, Madarao, Nozawa, Shiga and surrounding hills, just to go up to Yamagata/Fukushima. I personally believe they are separate trips, unless you have a month+

    On the other hand, I have planned in the past to just chase snow being based in Nasushiobara. This has meant overnight/late night trips on the shink to get into Nagano or Gunma to get the best snow when it's off tap there but not so good in Fukushima.

    It's a bit like people wanting to go to Hakuba and also Gifu in the same trip. Yeah, you can do it, but if you only have 2odd weeks I wouldnt recommend it.
     
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    Whats the feeling on Appi Kogen for those who have non-skiers with them.Anything for them to do?
    I like what I read about that place.