Yeah I know I know. Some people haven't even gone yet. However i'm starting to see posts appear re next year. I'm getting keen as. This last season being put to the side as a result of injury, surgery and no $$$. Just doing some basic framework and ideas for a normal 14 day trip to Honshu. Which could potentially involve 3 families Few things I noticed. - Most hire car companies now offer a snowtyre "plan" from major airports/train stations in Tokyo and other non snow areas. With this in mind it might be more economical to drive to the destination rather than other methods like train, bus Chuo etc. Eg for us (2 adults 1 child) its roughly 43,000 yen return via trains... vs 7500 yen in tolls and a tank of gas or so (one way) -Karuizawa has the cheapest hire cars... A small Car is 3200 a day and a bigger corolla wagon around 4300 yen a day. Snow tyres inc. Karuizawa has a big DFO type thingy. Which may be a good or bad thing I guess.