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Japan 2019 . Planning and stuff.

Discussion in 'Japan' started by Donzah, Feb 27, 2018.

  1. Fancy_Pants

    Fancy_Pants Hard Yards

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    I booked my flights a few weeks back and I'm taking a punt, winging it, accomodation-wise until the last minute.

    Heading over for my first Japan trip Feb 15 to Feb 24. Thinking a first weekend in Hakuba (I know, crowds and accom will be a hassle) to get my bearings before probably heading for the Myoko area. I have not discounted the possibility of heading to Hokkaido. Basically, this is a mission for Japow.

    I've got questions, which I'll ask here instead of a new thread (which may happen because all the info is hard to dig through):

    Can anyone recommend a good guiding company for Hakuba? I know people speak about some of the less-experienced operators in the area. Would like to avoid those, of course.

    Any accomodation tips for the Hakuba area? Looking for backpacker/ryokan/guest house vibe (I'll mix it up between comfort and cheap as I travel) with a combination of access and a bit of walkable nightlife/onsen. I'm heading to Japan to snowboard, not party (much).

    Landing in Haneda around 9am Friday. A bus in the arvo? A shink? Or some other way to Hakuba? I'd love to get there in the mid to late arvo to have a look around.

    (And if anyone else is in the area travelling solo, I'm keen for riding buddies.)
     
  2. chriscross

    chriscross One of Us Ski Pass: Gold

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    Shink is amazing experience but you need to catch a train into Tokyo, then shink, then bus from Nagano to Hakuba. Look up times for Nagano Snow shuttle (bus service) which can take you from the airport (at least, from Narita, not sure on Haneda) directly to Hakuba bus terminal, very central unless you stay in Wadano forest area. Penke Panke lodge is in this area and popular for a range of accommodation types and walk to lifts and bus but there are lots of other options in the valley which people will advise about. Echoland area is popular with young people and boarders but bottom of valley, long walk to lifts. Others will know more. Have fun! ( I will be in Myoko area from 19th).
     
  3. Donzah

    Donzah Old n' Crusty Ski Pass: Gold

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    Yeah not many direct Bus connections at 9am from Haneda to Hakuba

    Stay somewhere in Hakuba near a bus connection for your first time.
    Obviously i'm biased , but like Hakuba power lodge.
     
  4. SnowBound

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    I stayed at the Ougiya Ryokan, Hakuba last month for 7 nights with a mate and it was great. I recon it suits what you're looking for perfectly. The family who run it are very friendly too.
     
  5. Sandy

    Sandy Dark Sith Lord of the Pool Room Moderator Ski Pass: Gold

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    https://naganosnowshuttle.com/Haneda.aspx

    My mate does this from Haneda at 7:30am, Haneda direct to Happo Bus terminal. Single seat with full length recline. No changing trains/bus 3 times.
     
  6. M_G

    M_G M_G_ = Make skiing great again Ski Pass: Gold

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    My 2 bob. Head straight to Myoko. Conditions seem better than Hakuba. Then decide whether to go to Hakuba after that or up to north.
     
  7. blowfin

    blowfin One of Us Ski Pass: Silver

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    Cracking bluebird day today, working on form and park with a lack of fresh snow. Finished up with a soak at Maguse onsen
     
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  8. Fancy_Pants

    Fancy_Pants Hard Yards

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    Thanks for all the replies. Booked in at Ougiya Ryokan for the first few weekend nights – location seems good and the place seems nice, and I wanted to lock in my first few nights so I know I'll be settled.

    I've done the shink before in Japan and I know what Tokyo train stations can be like, I don't want to be pulling my snowboard bag around, that's for sure. Maybe I'll chill in Haneda and get the afternoon bus.

    Depending on vibe, I'll either spend the whole 8 days in Hakuba or get a car and jump across to Myoko/Lotte Arai. Now that I've booked my first few nights, I think Hokkaido is out, unless it's looking bone dry or pineapple in Hakuba for the whole time.
     
  9. smackies

    smackies A Local

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    If you land at 9am, you'll miss the chaos of the Tokyo train stations.

    I'm a big fan of the Monorail-Train-Shink-Bus. You're only walking short distances at the train stations, you get to enjoy a bento on the shink and it gets you to Hakuba the quickest.
     
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  10. elSpike

    elSpike I am a Meat Popsicle Ski Pass: Gold

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    Agree with this totally. I literally just did the reverse of this yesterday with four of us. Easy as pie.
     
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  11. Fancy_Pants

    Fancy_Pants Hard Yards

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    You had me at bento.That settles it – shink it is. I like the idea of getting into town while the sun is up.
     
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  12. Skywalker572234

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    Help needed. Planning my 4th trip now to Japan and dragging 4 other families along for the ride. Im looking at lodge style accomodation that would cater for approx 18+ people. Whichever area we stay needs to have English speaking ski instructors for the kids. Has someone got some insight?
     
  13. Tanuki

    Tanuki A Local Ski Pass: Gold

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    Are you looking for self catering or traditional lodging with breakfast and some communal areas?
     
  14. M_G

    M_G M_G_ = Make skiing great again Ski Pass: Gold

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    Myoko Snowsports.

    I think you've contacted me about this group (SC?). I've cc'ed them in on the most recent email.
     
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  15. Slowpony

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    Haven't done it for a while, can someone remind me the easiest route to get to Haneda from Yuzawa via Shinkansen etc
    Thanks
     
  16. elSpike

    elSpike I am a Meat Popsicle Ski Pass: Gold

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    Shink to Tokyo, Yamamote outer loop to Hamamatsucho, Tokyo Monorail to International terminal.

    HYPERDIA.com is your friend.
     
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  17. Donzah

    Donzah Old n' Crusty Ski Pass: Gold

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    Shink to Tokyo station. Yamanote line to Hama. Monorail to Haneda
     
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  18. Tonester

    Tonester One of Us Ski Pass: Gold

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    People routinely underestimate the ease with which you can get about on public transport in Japan. It doesn't have to be a horrible lottery, as it is in some other countries (**cough cough** australia **cough cough**)
     
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  19. 2ESki

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    We did just that last year, landed at 5am was in the acc by 9.30 from memory :thumbs:
     
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  20. LMB

    LMB Old but definitely not Crusty! Ski Pass: Gold

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    Well, I’m safely “home” in Hirafu.

    Flying in this evening on Cathay it was just beautiful to see snow right up to the shoreline again. Never gets old.


    I felt like I got a lot of sleep on the first flight Perth to HK (which was quite delayed as usual), but my Fitbit says it was not even 3 hours :eek: so after driving straight from the airport I’m pretty shattered and tomorrow will be a very soft start.


    I booked a Serena through Nissan but they “upgraded” me to a fancier car (can’t remember right now what it actually is - el grande maybe), but I don’t think it’s going to be as practical getting gear and people in as the Serena, when the others get here sadly. Nice car to drive though.


    There is an abundance of snow in Hirafu, I’m delighted. So far we have had an absolute ball just me and my youngest hanging out and navigating our way here in the dark, I’m looking forward to Mum and Boy time over the next few days before our friends arrive. Relating to him as an adult and friend one on one is fabulous.

    Bring it on.

    Meanwhile PB is far far away climbing mountains in Argentina.

    He’s the one in the white cap and yellow boots.
     
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  21. Ramenman

    Ramenman One of Us

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    Sugoi!, Aconcagua, nearly 7000m, he is climbing to the peak:rolleyes:!?
     
  22. LMB

    LMB Old but definitely not Crusty! Ski Pass: Gold

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    Hopefully.
    They are on ascent now.
    It’s quite a weather dependent beastie.
    At completion he flies from Mendoza to Santiago to Sydney to Tokyo to Sapporo, so I expect he will be one exhausted human when I I pick him up at Chitose.
     
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  23. Ozgirl

    Ozgirl A Local Ski Pass: Gold

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    Throwing our hat in the ring for Japan!

    Booked flights to Osaka (still have to find some to Sapporo), we leave in two weeks! I think thats a new record fro us! (Last year was 6 weeks til heels up for the US).
     
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  24. Donzah

    Donzah Old n' Crusty Ski Pass: Gold

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    We stayed at the aeroporte hotel at KIX
    then early as flight next morning
    very very worthy
     
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  25. LMB

    LMB Old but definitely not Crusty! Ski Pass: Gold

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    A typo or are you throwing your hat in the tele ring too LOL
     
  26. Telemark Phat

    Telemark Phat Pass the butter Ski Pass: Gold

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    2 weeks for me as well.
     
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  27. Untele-whippet

    Untele-whippet beard stroker Ski Pass: Gold

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  28. Ozgirl

    Ozgirl A Local Ski Pass: Gold

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    wheels up!!
     
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  29. Ozgirl

    Ozgirl A Local Ski Pass: Gold

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    cant find

    Currently best price is a JAL flight at 9.30am - total Rtn is $435ea

    j* is over $500
     
  30. Donzah

    Donzah Old n' Crusty Ski Pass: Gold

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    Hotel Nikko kansai
     
  31. Ozgirl

    Ozgirl A Local Ski Pass: Gold

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    Woot just held forEVER for Qantas. Added the flights for only $325 more. instead of $435. Worth the hold time!
     
  32. Ozgirl

    Ozgirl A Local Ski Pass: Gold

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    this one :eek:

     
  33. Born2ski

    Born2ski Part of the Furniture

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    Do you have any Qantas FF points ? We got four flights from Osaka to Sapporo for just over $20 in tax plus points, flying with JAL.
     
  34. Donzah

    Donzah Old n' Crusty Ski Pass: Gold

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    Yeah
    I think we paid 160 usd
    BIG rooms

    I see jstar have some deals
     
  35. Donzah

    Donzah Old n' Crusty Ski Pass: Gold

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    260 on jstar?
     
  36. Ozgirl

    Ozgirl A Local Ski Pass: Gold

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    No JAL

    And it was $360 with change fee.

    But JAL have a $1,000 yen fare when you book with INTL flights. thats what fare class they were able to use to add our flights.

    Try and find me something cheaper! (3rd to 16th KIX to CTS)
     
  37. Ozgirl

    Ozgirl A Local Ski Pass: Gold

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    Blew them on flights to Chile and upgrading one of these intl japan legs.
     
  38. JoeKing

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  39. Donzah

    Donzah Old n' Crusty Ski Pass: Gold

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    I see 9900 yen flights on jstar japan
     
  40. Ozgirl

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    I didn't and there is bags onto of that
     
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  41. Donzah

    Donzah Old n' Crusty Ski Pass: Gold

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    checked the japanese site?
     
  42. Ozgirl

    Ozgirl A Local Ski Pass: Gold

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    plus bags - ouch!
     
  43. Ozgirl

    Ozgirl A Local Ski Pass: Gold

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    Yep its was the same as google flights.
     
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  44. PerthBoarder

    PerthBoarder Hard Yards Ski Pass: 30 Day

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    Have u look at the JAL explorer pass?
     
  45. oldgeezer

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    So I'm on the bus to Rydges Sydney Airport this afternoon. It seems that Tuesday night into Wednesday will be the peak of the warm spell, so much so I'm reckoning on cancelling our stay back in Tokyo early the week after this one coming to have another two or three days on snow, maybe even using Sunday to transfer to Shiga Kogen.
     
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  46. Ozgirl

    Ozgirl A Local Ski Pass: Gold

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    I did! But I think because it not much of advance purchase, it was high over $580. Feel free to check using the dates above.

    But return on any airline was over $500pp. That's why I called Q - I was hoping they hadn't ticketed it. But even with the change fee it was heaps cheaper! jAL have a fare class that works out about $100 ea leg that's only available with International sections. But you can typically get it yourself if you don't get it at purchase time via the saukura (or however you spell it...) fares.

    We could get a cheap flight up. It was the return leg that was $$$ and blew out the cost.
     
  47. Donzah

    Donzah Old n' Crusty Ski Pass: Gold

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    Tried Kobe?
     
  48. Telemark Phat

    Telemark Phat Pass the butter Ski Pass: Gold

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    Pics or ban.
     
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  49. Ozgirl

    Ozgirl A Local Ski Pass: Gold

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    Im all booked! $325ea rtn.
     
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  50. Ozgirl

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    Okay so does anyone (besides Donzah) have an Osaka hotel rec?

    Also depending in hotel location, does anyone think we should leave or bag at the airport?

    Also peeved because the stupid agent on the phone the other night insisted it wasn't a Jetstar japan domestic leg... it is.... how do these people not know about codeshare?

    She is adamant we get 30kg baggage allowance though. Which is bull! On what planet do we get 30kg flying to japan, let alone domestic. I might call on Monday and argue the point... surely they have a tapped recording...

    I really really want minimal stress for this trip.
     
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