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Japan 2019 . Planning and stuff.

Discussion in 'Japan' started by Donzah, Feb 27, 2018.

  1. LMB

    LMB Old but definitely not Crusty! Ski Pass: Gold

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    I don’t know about JetStar but my youngest (with no ff status in the cheapest economy tix we could buy at the time) got 30kg of luggage on Cathay - they used to be 20 or 23 if I recall correctly.
     
  2. Ozgirl

    Ozgirl A Local Ski Pass: Gold

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    Thanks - the tickets say 23kg though...

    and we *should* get the same as international since they are now ticketed together.
     
  3. LMB

    LMB Old but definitely not Crusty! Ski Pass: Gold

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    Believe the tickets!
     
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    Born2ski Part of the Furniture

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    How long are you in Osaka ?

    We had our ski bags sent from Kansai airport straight up to our accommodation in Furano, no need to store them at the airport or drag them round anywhere.
     
  5. Ozgirl

    Ozgirl A Local Ski Pass: Gold

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    Only overnight. So I was thinking blackcat would take longer than us?
     
  6. Lady Penelope

    Lady Penelope One of some lot ... Ski Pass: Gold

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    Woah! And that’s with Qantas? Great deal if I’m reading this correctly and it’s $325 return per person :eek:. Shame I’m stuck with booking during the peak of school holidays for the next nine years ...
     
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    Born2ski Part of the Furniture

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    Yes, one night is not enough. We were there four nights and even then our skis arrived at our Furano accommodation a few hours after we did.
     
  8. PMG

    PMG One of Us Ski Pass: Gold

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    Not enough time.
    What's your budget re Osaka hotel and do you want to see anything in Osaka or is it just a bed for the night?
     
  9. Ozgirl

    Ozgirl A Local Ski Pass: Gold

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    That was osaka to Sapporo only.

    Total was $1330 including the change fee of $120 to add the above flights.
     
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  10. Ozgirl

    Ozgirl A Local Ski Pass: Gold

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    We are there just over 12 hours. So probably not enough time to see anything.

    there seems to be a bunch of hotels and shopping just across the water from the airport.

    I checked work travel and can get the westin for only $200 (expedia didn't have much under that) but just wondering if it is worth travelling that far with our bags.

    And also nervous about the jstar Japan flight at 815 am. So close to the airport would ease my anxiety.
     
  11. PMG

    PMG One of Us Ski Pass: Gold

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    What date? Have you checked the Hotel Nikko Kansai website? It may be cheaper than the booking engines.
    https://www.nikkokix.com/en/
    If it's still too expensive then the Washington or the Star Gate are the closest to the airport on the mainland. The Hatago Inn looks okay too. I doubt any of them would have the room size of the Nikko though.
     
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  12. Ozgirl

    Ozgirl A Local Ski Pass: Gold

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    2nd March.

    Will take a look! Are those just across the water?
     
  13. PMG

    PMG One of Us Ski Pass: Gold

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    Yes.
    Saturday night is the most expensive night of the week as probably already know.
     
  14. Ozgirl

    Ozgirl A Local Ski Pass: Gold

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    I actually didn't :-(

    It's $290 a night. Which I am happy to pay.

    But what's the commute like from the airport?
     
  15. Ozgirl

    Ozgirl A Local Ski Pass: Gold

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    Ooooh! It's the one AT the airport!

    Yep, happy to pay for that convenience!

    If we really want we can check in and head across the water to eat and come back.

    That distance doesn't bother me. It was just lugging the bags!!
     
  16. Donzah

    Donzah Old n' Crusty Ski Pass: Gold

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    Yeah the Nikko rooms are fantastic.

    We've stayed there twice.
     
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    Ozgirl A Local Ski Pass: Gold

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    All booked, and I actually got it cheaper than through website.

    Thanks!
     
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  18. Donzah

    Donzah Old n' Crusty Ski Pass: Gold

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    A hint.
    Have dinner at Kix before you check into the hotel.
    There are some decent restaurants around. However they seem to shut early
     
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    Okay, is it worth going across the water at all then?
     
  20. Donzah

    Donzah Old n' Crusty Ski Pass: Gold

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    No.. It's weird over there.
    IMO .
     
  21. Sandy

    Sandy Dark Sith Lord of the Pool Room Moderator Ski Pass: Gold

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    I've noticed in recent times, that whenever I book between Japan and Australia on Qantas, it's always 30kg these days.
    Jetstar is always 23kg if you go with a booking site... if you book via Jetstar, you can add what you like as usual, and I usually pick 25 or 30 kg, depending on what I need to take.
     
  22. PMG

    PMG One of Us Ski Pass: Gold

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    We haven't stayed at the Nikko for a few years now but from what I remember there were a couple of okay restaurants at the airport.
     
  23. Donzah

    Donzah Old n' Crusty Ski Pass: Gold

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    Yeah. Best okonomiyaki I've had was there
     
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  24. LMB

    LMB Old but definitely not Crusty! Ski Pass: Gold

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    Massive massive hotel that’s going up in Hanazono!

    I knew it was being built but until seeing it I didn’t realise how massive it would be. Quad lift going in to top of Shinya, then gondola to Weiss. Perfect terrain free from people bombing it for beginners.
     
  25. xuěboarder

    xuěboarder One of Us Ski Pass: Gold

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    Any single chair chairlifts in Hakuba? Have always wanted to give one a crack.
     
  26. Sandy

    Sandy Dark Sith Lord of the Pool Room Moderator Ski Pass: Gold

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    No single chairs. I think the last one was on Tsugaike.
     
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    xuěboarder One of Us Ski Pass: Gold

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    Dang, thanks Sandy.
     
  28. LMB

    LMB Old but definitely not Crusty! Ski Pass: Gold

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    A stroke of unplanned luck means our last day and evening at Tsugaike tomorrow means we will get to be here for the 48th Tsugaike Snow Festival which we only just heard about.

    Hope it doesn't mean trains back to Tokyo on Sunday will be packed, a bit worried as I didn't reserve any seats on the Azusa Express.
     
  30. shepski

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    We've had 30kg with Cathay, Qantas and Singapore Airlines in the last 3 years.
     
  31. travelislife

    travelislife One of Us Ski Pass: Gold

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    You know you can get fixed 10,900 yen domestic fares on ANA and JAL as a foreigner, have posted about it a few times in here.
     
  32. Ozgirl

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    Yes, I know. I ha ve posted about it before.

    But I could get it with two weeks notice. Though q had got it for me, but got J*.
     
  33. LMB

    LMB Old but definitely not Crusty! Ski Pass: Gold

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    For those following Hirafu conditions:

    Was a clear and chilly day in Hirafu yesterday after it snowed pretty much all day the day before (more than expected).

    (Me and the youngest cub)
    Started light but constant and the turned to big fat flakes by afternoon.

    We were far from first at Strawberries, due to coming over from the Ace Quad, but snow quality looked alright despite a fair few tracks.
    (Strawbs entrance)



    It was only a small freshen up on crust, but it was fun. Bit harder riding than bottomless, the boys found themselves stacking it where they usually wouldn’t.



    Heading back over to Hirafu in the afternoon the wind was hectic and had completely scoured all vulnerable surfaces. (Top lifts were closed all day due to wind). The very last pitch down to the Ace Quad was just starting to slush up by late afternoon (enjoyably so), however the Family run was in full shade and was literal dust on smooth concrete - I really felt for the new beginners learning on that!

    No new snow overnight or anticipated today (which suits me as I’m driving to Chitose). However snow the day after tomorrow afternoon/evening is expected - followed by a warm patch.

    It might not be powder but spring riding is still pretty sweet!
     
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    Because I have post trip depression after coming back from Europe I’m already looking ahead to 2020.

    I’m trying to decide on the optimum time to go with cheapish flights, not too crowded, decent snow depth and still cold temperatures. I though I had the perfect dates only to find that CNY was right in the middle of when I would have been skiing :(

    So now I’m looking at leaving Australia at the end of January and skiing around the first week of February. It will probably be a Honshu trip with a couple of days in Tokyo at the beginning and around 8 days on snow, probably staying in one resort.
     
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  35. LMB

    LMB Old but definitely not Crusty! Ski Pass: Gold

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    Avoid CNY at all costs unless you’re coming for a month.
     
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    I thought so. Is just after New Year (Jan 25 next year) likely to be okay?

    Wish I could come for a month :D
     
  37. Chowder11

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    What dates are CNY next year.
    We are planning on going again next year but earlier than the week we just have been to try avoid that potential mid feb warm that can happen. Idea was 2 weeks last week Jan 1st week Feb, we in the clear for avoiding CNY?
     
  38. Donzah

    Donzah Old n' Crusty Ski Pass: Gold

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    CNY ain't that bad
    just avoid a resort chinese people go to
     
  39. LMB

    LMB Old but definitely not Crusty! Ski Pass: Gold

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    True, but they are REALLY getting the travel bug.

    I really don’t like racial profiling, but as a nation they are fairly new to snowsports, don’t take as many lessons as they should and are a bit unaware of space and staying in control. Many exceptions to that of course, and they will, as a group, get better over time. But en masse, I’d avoid CNY if you can.

    I say this with a bit of personal bias...I got hit yesterday by a Chinese guy - completely out of control.

    I was stopped, on my knees looking back up the piste waiting for my group, and right at the side of the piste next to a tree (taking all the precautions). He came from the middle of a wide section straight at me - back foot, fear in his eyes. Impact was with his board that he raised up - nose hit my chest, narrowly missed my neck because I dropped my head to protect it, then hit my face and helmet. Tail of the board squashed my hand. The force of the impact sent me flying over the top of him and left him lying crossways to me under my thighs. He raised his hands, quickly and quietly said “sorry sorry” then sped off equally out of control.

    My heavily biased opinion may lessen when the swelling in my finger goes down.
     
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    Didn't even notice CNY this year in North Hokkaido although did last year while at Appi. Its easy to avoid. Jeez the 'dry snow cold season' this year seemed to favour the Sandy adage of last 2 weeks of Jan first 2 weeks of Feb although Hokkaido had a week longer IMO. If you can't be flexible around where you ski go high both in altitude and latitude ( Shiga, tengendai, geto , there are others) or the higher ones in Hokkaido (kokusai, kiroro, furano and even dare i say niseko if you go touring).
     
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    LMB Old but definitely not Crusty! Ski Pass: Gold

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    Kim’s not into touring. It’ll be resort based.
     
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    yes I noticed a bit of, to put it politely 'enthusiastic beginner' stuff at appi last year. From what i understood it was Chinese boarders mainly. Interesting when they get more into surfing it could be problematic IMO.
     
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    sorry all those resorts (except niseko) would be good for resort based trip. I'll add Grandeco and Tazawako too for something different.
     
  44. Donzah

    Donzah Old n' Crusty Ski Pass: Gold

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    Just avoid places with shops
     
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    They are just a very difference race of people, culture based mostly, not racist, it’s fact.

    On our flight from Manila to Melbourne last night there was a Chinese man sitting across from us, coughing clearing his throat and spitting into a spew bag as loud as anything probably 50 times on a 7 hour flight and he was doing it like it was a normal thing, it was absolutely disgusting to the point Mrs Chowder moved seats, lucky our plane was relatively empty and a few spare rows at the back of the plane.
    At the oversized baggage collection after the flight the OS luggage was taking a bit longer and the same Chinese man was being very impatient, he started pressing the buttons in the conveyor then tried to open the access door to get out the back of the bagging area which had a clear no entry sign.
     
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    Foundation Day (11th Feb) weekend was quite busy this year because the holiday fell on the Monday. In 2020 it's on the Tuesday.
     
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    That’s a Japanese public holiday however
     
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    PMG One of Us Ski Pass: Gold

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    Yes I know. And where we were was really busy! Like Donzah I've always thought CNY crowds in Japan were exaggerated unless you're somewhere that attracts Chinese tourists like Niseko. Or Zao. Or Kyoto. Or Shirakawa-go or... You get the picture. Somewhere that has a famous attraction.
     
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    True, kinda like a Presidents’ Day in the states or family day in the Canada, unavoidable crowds pretty much anywhere
     
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    At Sydney Airport when coming here went down to Arrivals and an Asian guy was pushing his luggage trolley along then paused to blow his nose into his fingers, then proceeded to grab the trolley with both hands again and continued on. No wonder new influenza strains spread rapidly there.
     
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