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Japan 2020 / 2021 snow season planning

Discussion in 'Japan' started by Snowwww, Apr 4, 2020.

  1. Jacksong

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    Japanese sure know how to live (when not at work). They look about 10 years younger than they really are too. The nap must have something to do with it, very envious of this skill.
     
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  3. skichanger

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    ROFL
    One of my kids can nap just about anywhere. Learnt skill.
    The lunchtime nap with the tradies is pretty funny. The young guys are all on their phones. The old guy sleep.
     
  4. LMB

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    Really pleased to hear it.
    Hope you guys get through winter without it.
    A vaccine is imminent thank goodness!
     
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  5. Lord Back Country

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    COVID test Wednesday Y33,000, so around A$429.

    International clinic.
     
  6. Donzah

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    Jesus thats expensive
     
  7. Lucky Pete

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    One of the great joys of shredding in Japan is meeting people on the chairlift. Particularly weekends when they have often travelled a long way and are stoked. Its also how I met a crew from Alaska that way who are now close friends and in normal years camp on my floor for a month or 2 :) My Patron consumption goes up then ;)
     
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  8. Donzah

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    All those big ropeways in Yuzawa will be interesting with the Tokyo crowds....
     
  9. Lucky Pete

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    With the rise in C19 cases I would not be surprised if we see a partial lock down again late this year or early next. Might revert to Tokyo residents being stuck at home again.
     
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    Big queues in the morning and afternoon for sure. 10 to 15 max per trip if they're doing it properly I would think. Bit different to the usual 100/120.
     
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    There has never been a time when Tokyo residents have been stuck at home or required to stay at home. Nor has there been any mandatory partial lock downs. The central govt doesn't have the power to do so.

    There was a 3 week period in late April/early May, when people were "urged" so stay at home, there was no requirement to do so. This corresponded to cases above +600-700 per day (+9-12% per day).

    However, no action or "urging" of restraint was taken when cases rose above +600-700 per day again in July, continuing to +1400-1500 /day in August.
    The current spike above +1000-1600 /day, has not prompted any similar action to last April/May.
     
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  12. Sage Oya

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    Cancelled our flights for February 2021 today :(. Hadn't heard from Qantas so decided to get on the front foot, refunded without penalty thankfully.
     
  13. mannyk

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    Starting to look like I will need to cancel my Feb booking for Shiga accommodation :cry:
     
  14. TJ

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    Starting ROFL
     
  15. TJ

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    It will be interesting to see what Scomo comes up with after meeting Suga san but at this stage with numbers still rising in Japan I don't think any travel bubble dates will be announced. Vaccine please.
     
  16. Donzah

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    As a aside from covid.
    It sounds like a much tighter relationship between Australia and Japan.
     
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    Until our elder statesman does something that is inappropriate culturally.................LOL
     
  18. Donzah

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    He's got a new PM to bounce off
     
  19. Zimbooo

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    But in Cronulla it’s OK to touch your mates missus on the arse when saying g’day. LOL
     
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    Engadine = Saitama?
     
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    yeah I know....I was working on positive energy when I booked. So much for that..:(
    As you said, with the rising amount of cases, I cant see it happening..
     
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  22. TJ

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    Inside word is that a vaccine is to be deployed in late Jan/Feb. Logistics is being planned now. You heard it here first.
     
  23. LMB

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    Any rumours on which one that will be?
    Pfizer I assume, given the timing.
     
  24. Ecstatic

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    Be interesting how it plays out once it starts getting distributed.
    Free for all movement if you can prove vaccination?
     
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  25. skichanger

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    You don't need a test if coming from Aus.

    Sorry I misread that. Der! To many conversations with the embassy.
     
  26. TJ

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    actually edit that to a predicted late Dec to start the roll out. The whole 7 billion times 2 injections has to travel in sub zero transport around the world. Pretty big logistics challenge ahead for the big players. Book your trips for 2021/22 now :) I would assume the same LMB but not sure.
     
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  27. TJ

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    probably because there isn't one.
     
  28. skichanger

    skichanger A Local Ski Pass: Gold

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    I misread. Like I said to many conversations with the embassy. Does my head in every time I talk to them. If you don't ask exactly the right question you do not get the information you need. And they never offer more than the answer to the question you ask.
     
  29. LMB

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    Been priming family to realise I’ll be gooornnnee for 5-6 months come Nov/Dec 2021 LOL
     
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  30. Ecstatic

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    Can't tell if sarcasm or not? Everyone really think a vaccine is going to unlock everything in time for this season?
     
  31. telenomore

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    Not this season, the vaccine timing just a few months too late for this season, even with the most optimistic scenario. I must say though, last night's news (Pfizer Vaccine is go!) seems not to be getting the joy it should. For me that was a ground breaking, although mostly expected, announcement. Felt a little light headed today. Accordingly, I started locking in my late summer/autumn bicycle tours for 2021 now with positive hope they will go ahead, but not the coming winter. If @TJ is correct, certain at risk and health groups will be first cabs of the rank for the vaccine as we all know. I don't expect tourism to start up till the vaccine is in widespread general use, and again, reading the tea leaves, I'm thinking 5-7 months from now. Just my assessment of the situation.
     
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  32. TJ

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    21/22 season refers to the winter of.
    Sarcasm of course but looks promising. So many more things have to fall into place before travel goes back to anything resembling the past.
     
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    True.
    But many of us here don’t need it to go back to the past, just the green light to leave one country and get into the other, and probably access to a vaccine (as I expect that’ll be a requirement). All the other stuff can be worked around.

    It’s great news!
    Pfizer, Moderna and now AstraZeneca as well. All showing upwards of 90% effectiveness. All to be ready to roll in the first part of 2021 (or before). It might be Sept/Oct before people like me get the jab, but that’s in time for Season 21/22
     
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  34. Hyst

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    More and more vaccines will turn up soon and a number of them will be better
    distribution wise than the above.

    https://www.who.int/publications/m/item/draft-landscape-of-covid-19-candidate-vaccines
     
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    The Astra Zeneca one is adenovirus base - so won’t need the specialist Arctic transport temperatures of the other two. Also production has already begun in Australia, so that’s a positive.

    Has there been news of Japan locally manufacturing any of the vaccines? That’s be beneficial for fast deployment. I expect Japan will be wanting to aim for large scale coverage before the Olympics.
     
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  36. Ecstatic

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    ahhh... everyone talking the following season.
    Knowing the way things work out, this year = record powder year, next = record slush year.
     
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    I doubt it will be a record year but Im thinking/hoping it will be average or above average which means many epic days. Most of us here have social media so will be posting on many days just so you guys dont feel left out.. ;) :) :)
     
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    See, I have always said, going to live in JP does have a stange affect on one's brain.:whistle:
     
  39. ojisan

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    If true I wish I can blow raspberries every time you post.....
    Nah.. I'll just be jealous as ****.


    My wife desperately needs to go to Japan to see her mum as she missed her dads funeral a few months back and by the looks of of it, we will be waiting another 12 months.
     
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    Oh man that must have been tough. My wife lost her Dad this year too. Very difficult times and still ongoing obviously. My sincere condolences!
     
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    Very sorry to hear about your loss in these difficult times.
     
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    Sorry to hear about that, just wondering why she is not allowed back into Japan? Or is the quarantine on return the problem?

    I'm wondering the best ski resorts to visit this winter. Have never been to Hokkaido.
     
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    Sorry to hear that....
    She will be allowed back in, but doesn't she want to travel alone?
     
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    How long have you been in Japan? And how many season have to been snow riding in Japan?
    Which resorts have you visited?
     
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    I have been in Japan since 2012. Not all year round. I have usually skied the more popular resorts around Nagano/Niigata and a few smaller ones in other nearby prefectures. I usually don't like really big ski areas, especially if I am going for a short trip. Would prefer to ski 3 or 4 smaller resorts over a week and really get to know them.

    Never even considered Niseko for obvious reasons. This season could be the only chance to get it uncrowded. Otherwise other parts of Hokkaido.
     
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    He passed a few months back and she would have had to quarantine upon arrival in Japan.
    And then in in Australia.
    28 days in quarantine and missing the funeral.
    Add to that the time spent away from the children
     
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    It usually ends up that I ski at bigger resorts because friends flying in from Australia tend to want to do that. However, I'm always looking out for smaller places to ski.
     
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    I have always met the nicest locals at the smaller ski resorts. Hoping to get to a few new ones this year, will all depend on the forecasts. At the same time, it's hard to beat showing up to a place knowing exactly where you are going. Have definitely missed out on a few very good days by taking the punt and going to an unknown area. The whole day enjoying it, but in the back of the mind knowing how much better the other spot would be. I'm trying to train my mind to not do this..
     
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    Go here for forecasting:
    https://www.ski.com.au/xf/threads/snow-forecasting-tutorial-for-japan.63512/
    And for specifics, go to the season Japan weather thread.
     
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    @Sandy
    I'm daring to dream about an Easter trip to Japan. I understand it's unlikely at this point but perhaps still some hope.
    It would be a tourist trip with a few days of skiing rather than a ski trip. I understand powder skiing would be very unlikely. Ripping groomers would be the order of the day.
    Where would be a good hill for that time of year (very early April)? Obviously somewhere with some elevation and north facing. Shiga Kogen?