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Japan 2020 / 2021 snow season planning

Discussion in 'Japan' started by Snowwww, Apr 4, 2020.

  1. Snowwww

    Snowwww Early Days

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    I wonder if there is any cancellable flights available from Melbourne to Tokyo.
     
  2. elSpike

    elSpike I am a Meat Popsicle Ski Pass: Gold

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    Just a note, the fares from SQ are complimentary changes, not cancellation. Cancellation is still subject to fare class rules. In our case it is a $200 cancellation charge. There doesn’t seem to be a limit on changes though so it’s effectively the same thing as we’ll always need to take a flight somewhere.
     
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  3. smackies

    smackies A Local Ski Pass: Gold

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    I love the optimism that comes with the purchase of a cheap airfare.
     
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    Froff Life A Local Ski Pass: Gold

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    Return flights with JAL Melbourne - Tokyo direct for $850 mid January 2021.....tempting!

    * edit - $699 with Royal Brunei with a stopover
     
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  5. skichanger

    skichanger A Local Ski Pass: Gold

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    If anyone is interested we are taking bookings at both Chalet Myoko and Chalet Madarao with a revised cancellation policy. Basically if you cannot get there or need to change dates due to Corvid-19 we will either change dates, refund or give a credit for next season. Exact details depends on the circumstances, but the message is that we will take care of you and not leave you having paid for something you cannot use.
     
  6. PiggabeenBoarder

    PiggabeenBoarder Hard Yards

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    @skichanger I just went on your website to have a quick look at bookings / price and its telling me there's nothing available when I put in dates for next Jan / Feb??
     
  7. skichanger

    skichanger A Local Ski Pass: Gold

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    Contact me directly. At the moment all dates are available unless you wanted a whole of lodge booking. Because of Corvid-19 we have not opened up the PMS for next season yet.

    Also we have done some renovations and are still dithering about how to describe some of the rooms due to the changes we have made. All the upstairs rooms at Madarao have ensuites now.
     
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  8. M_G

    M_G M_G_ = Make skiing great again Ski Pass: Gold

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    A lot of the local hotels are taking bookings now with no deposit payable until at least October with option to shift/cancel if needed. I just booked in one enthusiastic crew - 3 rooms for most of Jan in Akakura. I think once an announcement is made they'll be a bit of a mad scramble. I really can't work out why more people are not at least putting in tentative bookings TBH.
     
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  9. was June daily watching

    was June daily watching One of Us

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    I’ve stayed at the Mominoki twice and can vouch for the pleasant surroundings and the excellent staff.
    Friends have stayed at the Tokyu in the past but now prefer Mominoki.
    First time at Hakuba I stayed at La Neige Higashikan in Wadano, another great place with lovely staff.
     
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  10. LMB

    LMB Old but definitely not Crusty! Ski Pass: Gold

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    No problem for me, locked out my place back in January for the season. Sure hope I get to use it they’ve just sent me a bill for close to 15k for “Costs to take us up to start Winter season”. Sheesh!!! The doors are locked people...
     
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  11. Sandy

    Sandy Dark Sith Lord of the Pool Room Moderator Ski Pass: Gold

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    Judging how last season kept going in Japan, there will be people around, maybe mostly Japanese.
    Probably a good time for me to hit Niseko without people mid week!!! ;)
     
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  12. 2ESki

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    :crap: mid March is $ 908 ?
     
  13. LMB

    LMB Old but definitely not Crusty! Ski Pass: Gold

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    There will probably be a very empty money pit sitting idle... :rolleyes:
    Stay in touch.

    They kept the lifts turning into the end of April in Niseko, such a shame to not have been able to stay and take advantage of it.
     
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  14. Sandy

    Sandy Dark Sith Lord of the Pool Room Moderator Ski Pass: Gold

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    The last day I skied Shiga Kogen last season, there was almost nobody around.... nice to take advantage of that!! :D
     
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  15. Snowwww

    Snowwww Early Days

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    I was in Furano on 16 March It was empty. Too empty I felt sad for the resort. I like the social part of it. Talking to strangers on the lifts, admiring 5ish year Japanese kids racing down the slope. It was just me and myself.
     
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    TJ One of Us

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    15K Oz? Dodgy.
     
  17. LMB

    LMB Old but definitely not Crusty! Ski Pass: Gold

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    1000000 yennies - it’s all the outgoings plus management fees etc but yeah, rather steep. I’ll be checking the monthly statement with a bit more care.

    Did happen to note that the ANA flight Perth -Sapporo via Tokyo (13 odd hrs total) is available to book in Dec out March. When yo push the button...
     
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  18. tot

    tot Hard Yards Ski Pass: Silver

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    yeah flight wise booking Feb seems do-able, $1200ish. Will we see a fight sale do you think?
     
  19. LMB

    LMB Old but definitely not Crusty! Ski Pass: Gold

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    I reckon that’s bottom line for ANA in a normal world...who knows if they’re trying to fill the flights.
     
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    Lucky Pete One of Us

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    Its going to be an interesting winter. We are taking bookings now but have relaxed our cancellations policies etc and rates. In November we'll start making decisions with our guests about how likely it is that they will be able to come. Some operators are already refusing to refund bookings made before C19. We think that's very poor form and have been refunding the guys asking as we understand the situation is fluid and some people are hurting. Most guests are waiting though and we hope to see them as often we have become friends with our return guests.

    As of today my gut feel feel is some inbound will happen and we'll also get a mega season snow wise, the best in many years. The aussie dollar is also working against higher visitor numbers as is the overall economic outlook in Aus with many people suffering for the impacts of C19. Whilst not good for business its quite possible we might be back to crowd levels similar to 10 or so years ago, not that there are lift lines mid week now (Except Cortina or elsewhere at the start of the day or delayed lift openings). I can see us turning up at Cortina at 8 am and only a few folks being in line :) :) In fact Im in line now LOL.



     
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  21. Sandy

    Sandy Dark Sith Lord of the Pool Room Moderator Ski Pass: Gold

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    Well, in fact it may be worthwhile turning up to Cortina first thing in the morning on a powder day again.... last time for me was about 6-7 years ago.
     
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  22. Sandy

    Sandy Dark Sith Lord of the Pool Room Moderator Ski Pass: Gold

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    Insurance!!!

    https://www.japan.travel/en/coronavirus/

    Also if you scroll further down you can find this:

    Insurance
    The following two companies offer insurance that foreign visitors can apply after arriving in Japan. Both insurances introduce medical facilities, interpret between you and the doctor, and have cashless medical services. You can apply for insurance on their websites. For details, please check the following pages.
    Sompo Japan Insurance Inc.
    Tokio Marine & Nichido Fire Insurance Co., Ltd.

     
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  23. LMB

    LMB Old but definitely not Crusty! Ski Pass: Gold

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    Awesome!!
     
  24. Pat42

    Pat42 One of Us

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    Do they mention coverage for coronavirus specifically?

    This was the only real worry for me
     
  25. Budgiesmuggler

    Budgiesmuggler A Local Ski Pass: Gold

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    We’re seriously looking at getting flights. So cheap on ANA and also get a cancel any reason travel policy.

    May be a good Niseko year given numbers will be down. Nice and quiet.
     
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  26. LMB

    LMB Old but definitely not Crusty! Ski Pass: Gold

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    I am thinking the same. Although I was always planning on going anyway (just need the stars to align with travel permissions).

    I fully expect Japan to refuse entry to people coming from countries that don’t have Covid at controlled levels - so numbers have to be down even without factoring in people being reluctant to travel and financially disadvantaged.
     
  27. Budgiesmuggler

    Budgiesmuggler A Local Ski Pass: Gold

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    Flights for under $1000 and $250 for a family cancel any reason policy... plus super quiet resorts...

    Oh, and it’s a significant birthday for me in Jan!!
     
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    teleroo Ignored Member Ski Pass: Gold

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    Hmm this idea is interesting. I've got airfares for
    a euro trip booked for Dec - Jan, but no travel insurance. Really, the only bit I want insurance for is medical. Not really fussed about lost luggage or fare insurance at this stage. Will look into Euro medical-only insurance.
     
  29. LMB

    LMB Old but definitely not Crusty! Ski Pass: Gold

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    At my age EVERY birthday is a significant birthday :pLOL

    But yes, I think you deserve acres of the finest Hokkaido POW back at early nineties traffic levels for your significant birthday!! Why not?!

    And if you’ve bought an Epic Pass you’ve got your 5 days free at “the zoo” too.
     
  30. M_G

    M_G M_G_ = Make skiing great again Ski Pass: Gold

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    This. I really can't work out why most people are not starting to book yet. One can easily pull the pin.
     
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  31. smackies

    smackies A Local Ski Pass: Gold

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    Maybe some people won't be able to handle the disappointment when it has to be canned...
     
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  32. Budgiesmuggler

    Budgiesmuggler A Local Ski Pass: Gold

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    This year I was evacuated from the bushfires and cut my summer holiday short. A week in NT - cancelled. Long weekend in Canberra - Cancelled. 5 weeks in Europe - cancelled. And a week in Hotham - cancelled (but May rebook).

    so cancel is my default position!!
     
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  33. smackies

    smackies A Local Ski Pass: Gold

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    The triumph of optimism over experience!

    Or is that second marriages?
     
  34. LMB

    LMB Old but definitely not Crusty! Ski Pass: Gold

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    Gotta have something to look forward to right?
    Its the requirement of optimism and a better day tomorrow that keeps humans going through the tough times.

    Going through some serious stuff with my youngest brother right now and all hope and reason for living has been stripped away systematically, resulting in a descent to madness and involuntary psych commitment. I suppose its helped me to really understand root of the BLM movement that when all hope of a better tomorrow is lost the human psyche takes a pounding.

    I'm making bookings tomorrow.
    A bright light on the horizon. Something to get out of bed for and work towards. I can deal with the disappointment of a delayed or failed travel bubble when we get to that date, but for now it will give hope, a future, something way better than the current depressing mire left and right.
     
  35. LMB

    LMB Old but definitely not Crusty! Ski Pass: Gold

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    Oh and on a positive note re: Japan travel.

    A few months ago I received a very negative forward projection from HTM/Niseko Central regarding the ability of foreign tourism into Hokkaido. Yesterday we received a much brighter picture with the expectation that SOME countries will be able to visit as tourists starting from early December.
     
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    sn0wbunny29 One of Us Ski Pass: Silver

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    Sorry to hear that LMB. Hugs coming your way. Snowbuck and I are looking to book our return to Japan this weekend too!
     
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    Ok screw you bad influencers in this forum! Now I've got the itch and have been looking at flights for Jan 2020. Might book some flights this weekend, I have some Qantas FF points saved up and the deals are pretty well priced.
     
  39. ratherb@thesnow

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    Received the following email from JAL yesterday, I’ve booked flights for early Jan, if it doesn’t come off I will amend the dates for a time to be defined

    12 June, 2020

    Dear Valued Customer,

    Thank you for your patronage of the JAL Group.
    To provide our customers with as much flexibility as possible with the current travel restrictions,
    we have updated our reservation policy so that you can change your travel dates without penalty.
    Reservation dates may be changed free of charge, irrespective of the standard fare rules, on all current international fares.
     
  40. skichanger

    skichanger A Local Ski Pass: Gold

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    That makes it a lot less stressful to book.
     
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  41. tot

    tot Hard Yards Ski Pass: Silver

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    It’s still full price flying ANA Perth direct.. was thinking they would discount to entice, I’m ready to book asap!
     
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  42. M_G

    M_G M_G_ = Make skiing great again Ski Pass: Gold

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    Tried Qantas? I booked last week and got a super price ex-Adelaide.
     
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    Budgiesmuggler A Local Ski Pass: Gold

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    This is on their site too. For me ANA is a lot cheaper for my dates but still restrictive cancellation conditions and I can’t find insurance that will cover is the current travel restrictions remain in place.
     
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    Have a look at post #72 in this thread for possible insurance.
     
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    Budgiesmuggler A Local Ski Pass: Gold

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    thanks - I want cancellation insurance not medical insurance
     
  46. Budgiesmuggler

    Budgiesmuggler A Local Ski Pass: Gold

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    Just booked!!
    Found some frequent flier flights. Not quite the dates I wanted but will work. Free cancellation before November so if we find something better can cancel and rebook.

    flight to Sapporo is via Hong Kong which I’d prefer to avoid as it potentially puts more risk into travel arrangements (ie they may not allow entry from HK).

    Plan is to get epic pass - fly Sapporo ski Rusutsu. Fly to Osaka/Kyoto for sight setting, Hakuba, Tokyo, home. Will be about 3 weeks.
     
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    Sbooker One of Us Ski Pass: Gold

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    Just musing about a hopeful trip in December/January. Would there be anywhere in Japan that would offer some kind of Christmas atmosphere?
    I’m thinking of about 10 days in Hokkaido and then a couple of days in Tokyo before skiing for a week or so on Honshu.
     
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    Christmas isn't really a thing in Japan. You can get a special meal from KFC haha. Snow can be touch and go on Honshu at that time.
     
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    Sbooker One of Us Ski Pass: Gold

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    Thanks. I would likely be on Honshu after new year.
     
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    Budgiesmuggler A Local Ski Pass: Gold

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    Yes- isn’t kfc the Christmas thing to do in Japan? A bit like we have turkey, they have KFC.
     
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