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Japan 2020 - planning and stuff.

Discussion in 'Japan' started by Donzah, Feb 27, 2019.

  1. Crispy013

    Crispy013 One of Us

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    Anyone flown in/out of NGO (Nagoya) before. Seriously contemplating Singapore flights at Christmas for circa 1k. Access to Hakuba seems straightforward with car pick up in Matsumoto.
     
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    Yes nagoyas a great airport very quiet.
     
  3. Kimski

    Kimski One of Us Ski Pass: Silver

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    Have found some cheap flights but need to get the okay from work re leave before I can book. 95% chance it will be fine if I just book anyway but I really don’t want to be ‘that’ employee who thinks the rules don’t apply to them and have to end up begging HR for time off.
     
  4. LMB

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    NFI what we are doing next season - too many plates spinning on sticks to make a decision just yet. But I have blocked our place out from August - April (RWC, ski trips, who knows).
     
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    We got return flights from Perth in Jan this year for $746 per person with Singapore Airlines, so definitely possible. Stopover was 90 mins or so.
     
  6. Donzah

    Donzah Old n' Crusty Ski Pass: Gold

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    I'm keeping a eye out for that
     
  7. tr+h

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    We’ve done that in HK and also Singapore
     
  8. japower

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    I'm thinking Asahidake in the end of February. Have been salivating over all the pow videos for too long. The thing is the weather at the mountain is very unpredictable (more miss than hit from what I've read). So I'm thinking about staying in Asahikawa for about a week and just wait for a good day to go up. If the weather is bad, there's always Kamui, Pippu, Canmore, etc. My main concern is the logistics regarding the gear. We'll be renting, but I don't know whom I should rent from in this arrangement. If we rent from every ski area we visit, it'll be time consuming. If we rent multiple days from a place in the city, it'll be hectic to haul the gear from place to place. (We'll be taking public transport.) So still don't know if this plan could work. Your thoughts?
     
  9. Donzah

    Donzah Old n' Crusty Ski Pass: Gold

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    Hire a car
     
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  10. Ozgirl

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    Hopper!

    It's how I found our flights for this trip.

    Didn't show on google flights .
     
  11. Lady Penelope

    Lady Penelope One of some lot ... Ski Pass: Gold

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    So how is Japan (Hokkaido?) so far, @Ozgirl ?
     
  12. Donzah

    Donzah Old n' Crusty Ski Pass: Gold

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    I'm on five... But I'll add Hopper.
    Child wants to go to Disneyland.
    Wife wants to as well.
    Hong Kong stopover it is.
     
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  13. Ozgirl

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    I was contemplating it too, when via HKG came up in Hopper.
    @Lady Penelope I wrote a response but then realised it would be better written in the current niseko thread!
     
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  14. Donzah

    Donzah Old n' Crusty Ski Pass: Gold

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    Wifey has done Europe, Orlando, Anaheim, Tokyo sea. Wants to add HK.
    HK is a pretty rad place. For virtually no extra $$ for flights
     
  15. Ozgirl

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    Yeah did it on the way home from Living in london
     
  16. japower

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    I've skied in Japan for six years. Always stuck with public transport. Driving in snowy Hokkaido is uncharted territory. I'm still hoping to rely on buses.
     
  17. LMB

    LMB Old but definitely not Crusty! Ski Pass: Gold

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    I did the same for probably a similar amount of time. Wouldn’t do it without a car now. But we do like to get out to different resorts, shop in Kutchan, and do a bit of backcountry.
     
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  18. Ozgirl

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    Yep, second trip with a car.

    soooo much easier!
     
  19. tr+h

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    Car in Hakuba best thing ever. Skied 4 resorts one day until we gave up coz couldn’t find any visibility
     
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  20. japower

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    I actually feel pretty confident about driving in the snow. My fear is not being able to dig the car out of the snow or drive out of the carpark after a big dump.
     
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    @Donzah
    Honk long Disneyland is good, more for the younger kids. The Disneyland hotel is A++
     
  22. M_G

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    Yes, flexibility is good. I planned for one day only and the weather was crap that day.
     
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  23. Crispy013

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    Crispy's are locked in for 19-20. 24th Dec - 7th Jan.
    In/Out of Nagoya. $950 pp on SIA.
     
  24. Donzah

    Donzah Old n' Crusty Ski Pass: Gold

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    Where did you see these flights?
     
  25. Crispy013

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    SIA website....it was originally circa $1050...but after going incognito and signing into my Krisflyer, did the search again and bang, $950. Odd. Too good to say no to.
     
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    Trying also to plan next years dates. Chinese New Year 25th January(Saturday)Japanese foundation day 11th Feb(Tuesday). We usually go for 2 weeks, sometime in the last 2 weeks in January to the First 2 weeks in Feb. Thinking of Hakuba for a week and Madarao for a week. I know Madarao is Chinese owned now, so is it a fair assumption that this will be the busier of the 2 resorts for the Chinese New Year? Will many Japanese take a sicky and have a 4 day holiday weekend for foundation day?
     
  27. hotsaki

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    Was at Changi last night.$21 dollars for a Kirin at one of the bars!Spoke to a young bloke,fellow Darwinite,he said he was buying cans of beer for $6 at some sort of conbini.Will be hunting that down in June.
     
  28. japower

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    Chinese ownership is not an issue. It's not like they'll give special discounts to Chinese people. It's still a Japanese resort. Also, I think a week in Madarao is too long. I'd allocate a few days over to Hakuba.
     
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  29. Froff Life

    Froff Life A Local Ski Pass: Gold

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    Definetly hire a car, you won't regret it.
    Why are you set on hiring gear? Surprisingly gear hire at Asahikawa isn't that great, and a weeks hire will set you back a couple of hundred dollars. Kamui has a decent Fischer ski rental shop with top of the line Ranger skis, but the longest they stocked was 178cm.
     
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  30. tot

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    Hi all, well after a very, very long time reading, dreaming and wishing I am going to get there for 2020.
    I have been looking here at Japan trips since 2004/5/6? sometime ago. Think i missed the Hakuba and Niseko boat many moons ago but changes in life have now made it possible to get a trip happening.
    Was looking at a late trip this season but work wont allow, self employed but too much on atm, and have to work next to a employee who just spent 3 weeks there...prick!
    I like the idea of moving around a bit but may look at Furano as a base.
    Well aware of the Chinese New Year situation.
    Have read most TR's and Sandy's awesome advise over the years.
    My last time in snow was 2005 doing a follow up trip after working 3 seasons as a Smigg Pig.
    Despite all that Q's will be flowing still I'm sure but for a start - when's the best time to look at airfares please?
    Thanks K.T.
     
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  31. Ozgirl

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    Hah! I'm not the best example! We booked three weeks ago (15 days prior to departure!)
     
  32. tot

    tot Hard Yards Ski Pass: Silver

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    I have no problem with that , is that a better option with sites around now like - I know the pilot?
     
  33. Ozgirl

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    I used Hopper.

    I think it depends on when your trip is.

    Last year we booked the US with 6weeks lead time.
     
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    Depending where your nearest airport is , I’ve found Jetstar ( aka crap*) is the cheapest and shortest ( even for CTS via NRT) if you get a 2 for 1 or return for free deal or even just early standard fares. I’m guessing due to an increasing number of punters peak time specials are reduced now though. This year we paid $750 au for ool to cts return with xtra bags and oversize bought about 4 months out. We have never had any issues with cancellations etc.
     
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    That is actually a great pleasure in Japan. Park sensibly, have the relevant equipment at hand, is heaps of fun.
     
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    No matter where you stay the car is king, particularly Hakuba. Make sure its 4WD/AWD and with snow tires. Stop at the hardware store or supermarket and buy a brush/scraper for the windows and you will be fine. Your accomm should clear the snow for you in the morning, at least we (I) do but always appreciate some help :) Anywhere else you will be fine.

    Start planning your accomm too, we have pretty solid bookings and based on some conversations with others here we are not alone especially those places highly rated. Use booking.com etc to find a place then reach out direct to them as you should save some money!
     
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  37. japower

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    That IS surprising about Asahikawa. Good to know. Do you know if Kamui has powder skis? I'm not a tall guy so don't have to worry about ski length. :)
     
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    That word "heaps" is what troubles me.
     
  39. japower

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    Now I'm persuaded. Will look into hiring a car. The good thing about Asahikawa is that it's a city, unlike rural Hakuba.
     
  40. Rabid K9

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    Much of Hokkaido is pretty quiet & very rural compared to central Honshu, part of the attraction. Asahikawa is cold, properly cold. Hakuba is like a tropical valle in comparison. You'll certainly get to see a lot more with your own transport. All the vehicle hire places I've used supply a scraper brush, always have my own shovels in the car, but frequently Hokkaido fluff you can just blow it off or drive straight through it anyway.
     
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    I can second Lodge Scole. Nice atmosphere, friendly staff (altough they got the lifts mixed up) and spacious rooms. We had a room with en-suite shower but toilet down the hall. They prefer if you book directly via their own website.
     
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    LMB Old but definitely not Crusty! Ski Pass: Gold

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    One of the many joys of a season in Hokkaido - we all fought over who would do the snow clearing. I’m sure it’s a super annoying chore if you have to shovel it each morning before work, but if you’re on a ski holiday then it simply means it’s dumped snow and you’re about to have an awesome day.
     
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    Plan on going to Europe in 2020. Never been, better do it while the legs are still in reasonable working order. Only problem is Mrs. PMG wants to go to HK on the way there (what is it with Hong Hong in 2020?) plus get her Japan fix for a few days on the way there or back as well. :rolleyes:
    I'm getting the feeling airfares for this sort of itinerary could be prohibitively expensive. Anyone done anything similar?
     
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    LMB Old but definitely not Crusty! Ski Pass: Gold

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    What about an around the world ticket?
     
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    PMG One of Us Ski Pass: Gold

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    Thought about that but not sure it qualifies. Will look into it though.
     
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    Yep Kamui had the Fischer Ranger 108's and the new 102 Free Ride skis. I was pleasantly surprised with the quality of their rental gear. You could possibly rent from Kamui for the week, and just take the skis around with when skiing surrounding resorts.
     
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    Yep. Great for getting legs warmed up in oriental powder, then into the big vertical of the Alps.

    Cost wasn't out of control from memory, some flights on FF points, went Perth - Asahikawa via Singapore & Narita, three weeks to get legs going in Hokkaido & Gunma. Toyko - Dubai - Milan, four weeks in Austria & Italy.
     
  48. PMG

    PMG One of Us Ski Pass: Gold

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    Singapore and Emirates?
     
  49. Crispy013

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    Just did our honeymoon past winter with almost this exact itinerary....Syd - Hong Kong - Tokyo - Hong Kong - Milan - Paris - Hong Kong - Syd.
    Australia to Europe return was cheap ~$1200 on Cathay....we then wanted to add on Japan for 5 nights. HK - Tokyo was an expensive 5 hr flight ~$1200 return. But all up $2.4K wasn't too bad considering the stop overs. All on Cathay.
     
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    PMG One of Us Ski Pass: Gold

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    Thanks Crispy. That Japan sidetrip is the bugbear isn't it. Great fare otherwise.
    May have to ask Mrs PMG to make a contribution if she is that keen to include it. That'll test her resolve. ;)
    All out of ff points after upgrading this year.