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Japan 2020 - planning and stuff.

Discussion in 'Japan' started by Donzah, Feb 27, 2019.

  1. Any

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    Good point. I hope people don't try to copy it :/
    You could get permission with a license when I was in Americaland. I suppose it works the same in Japanland.
    The gear required to film 8k at 60fps at these higher than normal altitudes and large ranges suggests someone with a big expensive drone. That drone is booking it too, its faster than the traffic in some shots. A full Red Weapon drone setup like that is supposedly around $100k retail (according to a pro drone pilot youtube channel i watch). So I think a relatively easy to get license is probably not a big stretch.
    All that effort and youtube recompressed and downsized it to death too lol.
    The channel has 3 more Japanese city clips, but I find even this one boring after a few seconds. To me its like when 3d movies came out where they point objects at the audience, its interesting cause its new, not because its interesting footage.
     
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  2. Donzah

    Donzah Old n' Crusty Ski Pass: Gold

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    Anyone on here been to Shirakawago?
     
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    I've been... lovely little village.
    we stayed in a ryokan right next to the big onsen.
     
  4. Donzah

    Donzah Old n' Crusty Ski Pass: Gold

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    It looks pretty busy when we want to go (just after coming of age day).
    However I presume staying nearby may be a option
     
  5. ojisan

    ojisan Part of the Furniture Ski Pass: Gold

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    it is also prone to heavy snowfall...

    When I went, it was mid-feb
     
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    PMG One of Us Ski Pass: Gold

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    Yep. Gorgeous, just don't get your eye poked out with a selfie stick.
     
  7. PMG

    PMG One of Us Ski Pass: Gold

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    You can always stay in Takayama. Will you have a car?
     
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    PMG One of Us Ski Pass: Gold

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    One of my phone backgrounds.
    IMAG1227.jpg
     
  9. Donzah

    Donzah Old n' Crusty Ski Pass: Gold

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    Yeah hiring a subaru Levorg tourer ... fancy hey?
    Actually Takayama is a good idea
     
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  10. jjs

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    Hey guys, planning and stuff question. Will be flying out of Haneda Airport after a week's snowboarding, but plan to spend about 3 days exploring Tokyo before we leave.

    Will be myself, wife and 8 year old, and with our luggage want to make things as easy as possible. We can get a shuttle from our resort straight to Haneda. Is it pretty easy to explore Tokyo if we stay in a hotel out near Haneda?
     
  11. Tanuki

    Tanuki A Local Ski Pass: Gold

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    Highly recommend staying in Tokyo. You'll have easy access to Haneda for departure. Transfer your luggage from the ski field to Haneda by Black Cat.
     
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    Froff Life A Local Ski Pass: Gold

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    Tokyo has one of the best metro systems in the world, meaning you don't need to stay out near Haneda airport unless you have a very early morning flight? Stay in one of the more happening areas like Shinjuku or Ueno and use a luggage forwarding service to send your bags from the ski resort - Haneda.
     
  13. jjs

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    Thanks for the replies.

    We don't fly out of Haneda until 3pm so don't need to be there early. Also the from our resort to Haneda includes our luggage.

    We can get off the shuttle in Tokyo (Kajibashi Parking station) so will have a look at one of the more happening areas you mention.

    Does this mean though that getting from Tokyo to the airport with our luggage will be a hassle?
     
  14. Tanuki

    Tanuki A Local Ski Pass: Gold

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    Potentially if you have to catch a connection to the Haneda train. I'd hate to card kids and luggage on the Metro.
     
  15. Donzah

    Donzah Old n' Crusty Ski Pass: Gold

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    It may include your luggage , but that doesn't mean it has to include all of your luggage.
    end the majority from the resort to the airport. Travel light to Tokyo and then airport.
     
  16. jjs

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    Nah the shuttle definitely includes all our luggage.

    What are taxi options like?
     
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    Its not that much of a hassle to get from anywhere in Tokyo to Haneda with a couple of suitcases. However, if you have snowboard or ski bags with you it is much easier to use the Black Cat service to send your ski gear straight to Haneda for about $20 per bag then just take a small bag with what you need in Tokyo with you when you transfer from your ski resort to Tokyo. Hotel rooms in Tokyo are usually quite small so this also means that you will not be stepping over piles of luggage for 3 days. If you have not already booked our shuttle transfer I would also highly recommend travel by Train to tokyo rather than bus. Popular places to stay in Tokyo include Shinjuku and Uneo - I would book early though as hotel rooms with 3 beds are few and far between. We stayed at Citadines Shinjuku Tokyo which worked well for us https:https://www.citadines.com/en/japan/tokyo/citadines-shinjuku-tokyo.html with 2 adults and a child. The Train system is very easy to navigate. Taxis are plentiful and not too expensive but the train system is easier and well worth experiencing. Which resort are you going to? We can then tell you the pros and cons of all the different transport options. From personal experience - I will never take the airport to resort direct buses again unless absolutely necessary. The Train was a much better experience even when lugging snowboard bags, suitcases and with a tired child in tow. Bus trip was horrible.
     
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    We're staying at Bandaisan Onsen Hotel at Bandai Alts in the Aizu region. Shuttle bus is a really easy option as it's direct to the hotel from the airport.
    So if taxis are plentiful and not too expensive I may just look at that option for convenience sake; we'll be travelling with two snowboard bags and probably one suitcase so not an overly excessive amount of luggage.

    Sounds like getting an apartment in Shinjuku may be the go; check out day we have all day to get to the airport in a taxi :thumbs:
     
  19. Donzah

    Donzah Old n' Crusty Ski Pass: Gold

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    I meant, send your luggage (large snowboard/ski bags etc via Black cat to the airport) They will hold them there near the departure area .
    Just take a suitcase on your transfer.
     
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    Donzah Old n' Crusty Ski Pass: Gold

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    You won't get a ski bag in a taxi in Tokyo.

    They aren't that cheap either IMO
     
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  21. jjs

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    Oh really? Are the taxis small cars? Here I just lower the front passenger seat and they slide right in.
     
  22. silva

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    We have done both - last time we spent time in Tokyo a storm meant that the Black Cat luggage service could not guarantee our bags would get to the airport in time for our flight so we carted them with us (Train to Shinjuku from Hakuba arriving at 6pm - dragging 2 board bags and a suitcase through Shinjuku in peak hour was entertaining for many).
    We had a peak hour timed morning flight so caught a Taxi as we had the board bags with us - Taxi from Shinjuku to Haneda was about $150 (was a couple of years ago). They laid the front seat down and put the board bags in there - you could not do it with 3 adults but we had 2 adults and a small child so we squished into the back seat. The taxi trip took about 1 hour. Train and monorail to the airport would have cost about $20 plus 2x$20 to Black Cat the board bags - much easier, quicker and cheaper.
    In general the Japanese people don't travel with baggage - they use the Black Cat service so public transport is not really set up for baggage.
     
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    I really don't see the issue. It is pretty simple as others have suggested already. Send ski gear from resort directly to Haneda airport by the luggage delivery service. Then you can travel how ever you want to Tokyo with just stuff you need for 3 days, so should be very light. If you are travelling light you can stay pretty much anywhere in Tokyo - public transport system is excellent and you aren't concerned with ski gear on trains. Ueno or Shinjuku as suggesetd are good. Somewhere around Hamamatsuchō like Shimbashi or Shinagawa would be convenient for the monorail. No need to stay out at the aiport itself or need a taxi.

    Travelling by trains in Tokyo is a doddle if you are travelling light without ski gear.
     
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    Froff Life A Local Ski Pass: Gold

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    • avoid taxi's
    • you never see Japanese travelling with lots of bags, there is a reason for that, use the amazing luggage forwarding system!
    • AirBnB in Tokyo is great for apartments
     
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    That's what we did. Stayed at J-Hoppers in Takayama and toured around with a car. You can also get to some off the radar places that way.
     
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  26. Donzah

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    Yeah i'll never stay in a hotel in Tokyo again
     
  27. Heinz

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    Send your ski gear by luggage forwarding service from Bandai to Haneda and catch the train rather than the shuttle - much better.
     
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    Sweet! Just booked an apartment in Shinjuku, sounds like luggage forward service is the way to go!
     
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    Bandaisan Hotel looks really nice - great onsen.
    If you do decide to ditch the bus and go with the train option its really easy - you catch a shuttle bus from Bandai to Koriyama Station then jump on the Tohoku Shinkansen to Tokyo. I would suggest you then get off at any of the stations on the Yamanote loop JR line (Uneo or Tokyo) and from there transport to just about any area of Tokyo (including Shinjuku) is easy. We found this map useful: http://ontheworldmap.com/japan/city/tokyo/tokyo-jr-map.jpg
    To get to Haneda airport you just jump on the Yamanote loop and get off at Hamamatsucho station and catch the monorail to Haneda.
    I guarantee any 8 year old will enjoy the bullet train experience its amazing to watch the world fly by.
     
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    Just get the Airport Limousine Bus to Haneda Airport, from Shinjuku. They run from the bus terminal at the southern end of Shinjuku station. Will cost maybe 1200yen pp.(adult)

    Taxi will cost 9000-10,000.
     
  31. Donzah

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    Yup... Once you find this terminal. Its a breeze .
    LOL
    Edit. It moved between trips to tokyo
     
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    Thanks that's an awesome tip - Airport Limousine Bus from the bus terminal!
     
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    Tanuki A Local Ski Pass: Gold

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    As usual experience matters and Sandy is correct. Just make sure you've correctly identified the terminal on a map.
     
  34. Donzah

    Donzah Old n' Crusty Ski Pass: Gold

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    That end of Shinjuku station is confusing
     
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    World's busiest train station?
     
  36. Donzah

    Donzah Old n' Crusty Ski Pass: Gold

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    I think so.
    I've come out of the south exit and south exit all confused .
    Where for the bus you need to be on the south terrace side . On the top.
     
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    I got lost in Shinjuku station for 3-4 hours last year :p
    I had stored my luggage in a locker earlier that day, and no matter what I did I couldn't seem to find my way back there.
     
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    Even for someone who has been there near 50 times. It's confusing
     
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    50 times may be a bit of an exaggeration but it is certainly confusing and somewhat overwhelming due to how busy it can get. One of the first times I went there in the 80's I think I was looking for a particular connection but the huge flow of people in one direction barely gave me a chance to stop and get bearings, let alone change direction. So I ended up going with the flow quite some way out to an exit before I got a chance to re-assess and work out where I needed to go.

    Another reason why I prefer to stay in Ueno - a very user friendly station and environment overall.
     
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    Still gets me...
    Agree with Ueno. It's a normal station
     
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    You mean south and south east?
     
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    Donzah Old n' Crusty Ski Pass: Gold

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    Yes
     
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    Just chiming in here and to clarify, the Black Cat service has a holding area at Haneda Airport and picking up the bags is hassle free?
     
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    That end used to be confusing until they created the new southern part, south of the main road. Now it's a lot easier, because it's like a new separate part of the station.
    https://www.google.com.au/maps/plac...278e86ab62a71f!8m2!3d35.6885493!4d139.7006615
     
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    Sandy Dark Sith Lord of the Pool Room Moderator Ski Pass: Gold

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    It took me a little while to understand Shinjuku Station... now I know it like the back of my hand.
    Shibuya Station is more confusing for me, since they started the new development.... it keeps changing almost every month. I recently found a new route out!!!
     
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    Sandy Dark Sith Lord of the Pool Room Moderator Ski Pass: Gold

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    Yes, Shinjuku is the busiest by a long way....
    1.26 billion /year = 3.45million / day

    I regularly negotiate the 3 of the 5 busiest in the world, (1. Shinjuku, 2. Shibuya, 5. Yokohama) and travel through another 5 of the top 20.
    Yokohama is actually pretty simple.
    Japan has the 23 busiest stations in the world, followed by Paris Nord at 24th spot, and has 45 of the 50 busiest.
    Ueno station is 23rd, and is actually more complex than Yokohama.
     
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    The key to Shinjuku Station is knowing which part of the (JR) platform you need to exit. If you need to get to the bus terminal, you go to the far southern platform exit, going up. If you want to go to the main station south, you get off at the middle platform going up. If you want the northern end or central west, you go to the northern end exits going down. (so north down, south up)
    If you want Tokyo Metro subway, go north, and for Toei Subway, go south.
     
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    Me three.
     
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    Helps if you have some sense of direction. My internal compass is broken.
     
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    Ok, then all you need to know is that on Shinjuku JR platforms, up is south and down is north.