No car.
Big group.
Range of abilities, but none of them expert/high advanced.
Not able/not willing to hire and use car.

You want to go to Niseko. Your point about the lifts being faster is moot, who cares? They are mostly gondolas or detachables anyway, it's not an issue. Do you realise that driving from Cortina (northern end of Hakuba) to Goryu (southern end of Hakuba) takes over 30mins most days? And the shuttle buses wont be any quicker.

Niseko is going to suit your group a lot more.

 

Yeah, there's definitely that to consider - but Annupuri is a lot cheaper. I'm having a hard time finding something cheap in Hirafu.

 

I've been skiing in Queenstown before, so I guess I'm a little used to having to sit on a bus for forty minutes before hitting the snow I guess it would be nice to avoid, though.

My biggest concern with Niseko is the crowds. But I suppose it's a resort I'll end up visiting sooner or later, so I may as well go there first.. Plus you can ski from resort to resort.

The only thing I would be disappointed by is that Niseko is less steep than Hakuba's resorts. I love schussing down the steeper runs. How does Niseko's steepest compare to, say, Perisher? If anyone's skied there.

 

Steeper and longer.

 

Niseko is easily steep enough for your stated abilities.

 

I ski Perisher every year and went to Niseko,staying at Grand Hirafu this Jan. Trust me there is way more steeps than at Perisher and runs are at least twice as long if not further. If you find Perisher crowded then Niseko when we went from 12th jan was quiet. Never more than 5 minute on a chair wait or maybe 10 on gondola if it's busy......just go to Niseko for first trip to Japan. We found it easy to get around and no language barriers not to mention the insane snow quality......

 

Thanks for the replies everyone Niseko it is.

Has anyone stayed in Annupuri before? Are there any buses that run to Hirafu? We'd like to experience the nightlife once or twice but it doesn't have to be at our doorstep.

 

Decided to go with Hirafu For proximity of rental stores, ATMs, supermarkets, as well as everything else.. Plus the difference between Annupuri and Hirafu only came to $100 in the end. And With Annupuri we'd always run the risk of the lifts at the top closing and being stuck on that side of the mountain, which would be downright silly.

Thanks for your advice Crispy.

 

I haven't stayed in Annapuri but I would do so in a heartbeat. If I was single and/or wanting to head to bars of an evening I would stay in Hirafu though. Once or twice in the week you could easily manage by bus or taxi and your lodge manager may also drop you off.

There are buses but I don't know about the frequency.

 

Stayed in Annupuri this winter just gone.
Agree with the sentiments as above. I was by myself, but had a car and wasn't really interested in nights on the grog.
The buses run about every 30-40 minutes, and take about 40 mins. Cabs to Hirafu are approx ¥4500 each way.
Important to note though for the return journey, cabs in Niseko finish at 12-1 am (can't remember which) and a lot of bars shut at this time, which means you will be fighting for a limited number of cabs with quite a few ppl. U don't want to leave it too late or it will be a very long/ uncomfortable walk!

 

Check Full Note or one of the other pensions

 

Hi guys I have had a look and can't see much but if we were to head to Japan with the family 7 and 13 yrs and plus one. Is there anywhere for the 14th Dec onwards where it is worth skiing. Normally go Thredbo Perisher Falls. First time OS. We are skiers however the two 13 year olds will be trying boarding for the first time. Thanks

 

We went to Hakuba last season at the time you have suggested and we had great snow (plenty of POW days) and loved the overall experience of the town. We used Evergreen for son who learnt to snowboard there and was up and proficient within the first few days. We are heading back at the same time this year.

 

Thanks so far. Happy for snow that we can ski and good choice of runs. Not looking for 6m deep POW off piste. Unless it's on offer.

 

Niseko up on the north island of Hokkaido would be a safer bet at that time of year

 

Best chilled out, true Japanese, Backcountry place to go??? ie not Niseko

 

Kagura IMO

 

Thanks look interesting

 

as @Sandy would attest to... if you go in January, don't expect many blue bird days...

When I went, which was during mid January... it was pretty much white out all the time & the snow did not stop falling

 

And people complain about this shit

 

My sister complains incessantly.Lets go to Furanver and over and over.There is sun there she says.She cant understand that we dont want sun we want snow.But she always gets outvoted .Except for last season when we went to Furano but she couldnt go!

 

The Hakuba Snowsports team would be worth reaching out to as well if you havent already tried as they may still have staff around the for privates

 

Hi all,

Any recommendations resorts wise for a first ever ski trip to Japan, to be done next March (probably late in the month)?

 

Thank you.

A further question: so why was Hakuba so highly rated for spring?

 

For touring the terrain above the lifts - there is a lot of it.

 

This. Hakuba in the spring is all about outside the resort.

 

Kagura. You could even try the Heli skiing. Though it is a bit different to what you would expect in other places.

 

I'll be going with a wobbly intermediate so no gnarly off piste/back country required. Just some nice nibbly bits to go along with general atmosphere and good instruction preferably.

 

Niseko, naeba/kagura or shiga kogen

 

If you are after English Language ski school the choices are limited. Definitely Niseko, Hakuba, Myoko Kogen or Madarao but there is also some English language instruction available at some of the Yuzawa resorts. You would have to investigate which ones. And maybe Nozawa?

 

After many trips to Niseko I went to Myoko this year and had a hoot, now for 2018 I'm planning on skipping Niseko to return to myoko for 8 days and then after a few days resting up in Nagano or even back down to Osaka I'm looking for suggestions on where to go for an additional 5 days. My first thought would be to head back up that same area and check out Nozawa Onsen. Not really interested in Hakuba so any other areas that are recommended?

 

Hire a car, base yourself at say myoko and spend the 5 days checking out the smaller lesser known resorts around the place.

 

Why arent you interested in Hakuba?

 

Just after spending so much time in Niseko I felt that Myoko had a more traditional, low key feel to the place, similar to when I first went to Niseko 12 years ago. I enjoyed it so much with so much new terrain to explore, little english to be spoken and empty snow fields, it was exciting.

Although not having ever been to Hakuba i feel it would be a similar busy vibe as is Niseko, but with bigger mountains ;-]

 

Depends where you go... If you have wheels, you can get away from that busy vibe

 

Any of the fields around Nagano will fit the bill. I haven't been to Niseko, but the Nagano/Nagiita area has a lot to offer. A car is a must to make the most of it. You can see several ski hills from any of the resorts you choose, its a smorgasboard.

 

Mmmmmmmmm..........I like a smorgasboard, both food or skiing wise!!!

 

As an example, looking form Mt.Keashi (Nozawa) you can see 6 or so other resorts. Myoko (all 4), Ryuoo, Shiga, Kijimadaira, Togari Onsen, Madarao, and that's just looking 90deg from South to West. Looking East all you can see are snow peaks after snow peaks. Hundreds of them. The photo doesn't do it justice

 

Yep, once in that area it's easy to visit many skiing, food and culture options. We like!!!!!!

 

From the highest point of Shiga........................

 

HI all been a while since i was on here, looking to book a trip this/next year early feb in the Hakuba Valley, have been to Niseko 10 years ago an this time will have the kids 10, 6 in tow. We are looking for a Hotel thats budget and has an onsen? would be staying for 10 days or so. Any help would be great.

 

My daughter and self have booked into the Hotel De Laile which has both indoor and outdoor onsen and seems well priced , hopefully someone has something good to say about the place as its our first overseas trip skiing :[

 

Where is this hotel De Laile?

 

The hotels up in Wando 4 min from the sakka lifts ojisan so I hope its alright