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Japan: Hakuba 07/08 Trip reports, photos

Discussion in 'Japan' started by Sandy, Dec 14, 2007.

  1. fattwins

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    Getting up is never easy thats why it stays fresh, lol!
    Lets hope things start to settle!!!
     
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    Yesterday was off the dial again. Waist deep in many places and full face shots. Again the local knowledge payed off thanks to TJ. Certainly picked the right mountain due to the high wind gusts. Sounds like it has died down now and the wind should be a lot less today. Should be sweet up there today with all that fresh sitting there.
     
  3. Tim Craig

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    Sli, I enjoy the walk up too (not as much as the ski down!!) and hiking through the trees at the back of Tsugaike is a pretty nice area to skin through (obviously not when you are behind 6 snow shoers!!!). The terrain and spacing of the trees through there is really good too if you pick the right sections. I agree it is hard to get a level group especially with 9 clients. In my brief experience I think the best experience is to get a group of your friends together of equal ability and organise a guide for your group (this is obviously only possible if you have a few people). This lets you gain more BC experience in a safer environment with a guide. I think it also good to bear in mind that nature is in essence very variable and it sounds like you had a good time on your trip despite some small problems which is great. I feel sorry for those older guys too and I guess my only problem is that maybe the guides could have forseen their fitness being an issue before the tour and puting them in a different group?? I probably have too high expectations of the BC being like the ski movies all the time!! which is unrealisitic. My second day on North face happo was my last ski day in Japan last year and everything came together for a perfect tour and I went home very happy with Evergreen and Hakuba!!

    Sounds like it would be nice to be there this morning!! 1 more month wait for me [​IMG]
     
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  4. TJ

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    Some pow for you today as well I see [​IMG]
    Blue sky powder day.
     
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    looks sweet. where?
     
  6. Cham

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    If we told you we would have to kill you! ;).......or Tony would kill me.

    Looks like in that pic I have the pose with the palm.. "Oh behave".

    This trip has been a cracker. We have been here for 7 days and every day we have found powder and 5 of those day's have been off the dial, as good as it gets...bottomless powder full face shots. It's all most to the stage I need a solid blue ice day to put things back into perspective because it feels like it's just the norm here. Actually...no..will pass on the ice.

    We finished today with all day long bombing down pow runs from start to end. My mate said he has had more pow days here than what he has had in a month in other area's around the world. Maybe it was all timing....but certainly if you know the area you can ski fresh lines a week or more after the last storm if you know where to go. It was good as what you can get Heli boarding snow wise if you know where to go. This place certainly rocks. Im hooked and coming back. Thanks TJ for an awesome trip. Local knowledge is priceless. The bar is certainly high now....will be interesting to see how Niseko compares.

    If your looking for an ace place to stay in Hakuba...whitehorse hotel delivers in every aspect. In the words of arnie...."I'll be back".

    Im off to the bar now for the SIC party.
     
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    Think i know where that is cham, but wont guess cos that might give away something else. Agree with the fact that you can find freshies anywhere atm, although a bit windpacked it is all still good. Nice to see your giving your guide a plug [​IMG]
     
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  8. Sandy

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    Anyone guess the location??? [​IMG]

    HEAPS of people there as you can see!!!! [​IMG] [​IMG]


    [​IMG]
     
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  9. TACKIE

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    No idea Sandy, but i did keep an eye out for you at Goru/47 on Monday. No luck though, looked for the yellow pants with black knees, but only say that on some-one with a yellow jacket as well.
     
  10. Sandy

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    Ahhhh..... sorry!!

    In the end, I wasn't there!!! Was at the place above, on the suggestion of someone else. I'll be back in about 4 weeks, and again in March. We can make a firm day, and I'll meet you there!!
     
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  11. fattwins

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    Sun Alpina the far side in the back, do i get beers now?
    Kashimairi
     
  12. Sandy

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    [​IMG]
     
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  13. loc

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    anyone going to be around from the 18th to 22nd of Feb

    would be keen to catch up for a slide
     
  14. TACKIE

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    Alas, i'll be back in the land of reality by then (working).
    The family will all be around(lucky them). Back in July, should try to catch up in Tokyo maybe. Have a great year.
    Was good meeting some of the crew at tony,s. I sure will miss Goryu.Leaving end of next week(work is calling).Hopefully next year plan a bit better and get at least 3 months instead of 2.
     
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  15. John Deere

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    Anyone know details of the shuttle??
     
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  16. John Deere

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    Whats the cab fare worth from Tsugaike to Cortina?? What about a cab from the minamiotari station? How far is Cortina from there?
     
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  17. Sandy

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    Happo:
    [​IMG]
     
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  18. fattwins

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    cortina 3600 yen lunch onsen and ski that is the best deal. That said it got raped on Sunday and the patrol arent happy at the moment.
     
  19. John Deere

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    Getting there is the hard thing!

    BTW, ripper powder on the hill today!
     
  20. Sandy

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    Surely there's not that much powder there today??? Are you there?
     
  21. John Deere

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    Rode Happo with knee to thigh all morning.
     
  22. -Waterboy-

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    Hakuba looks awesome. Keep up the trip reports. Only problem ive got now is there are two many choices Hakuba or Canada next year, and im goin to be at uni so thats only half the problem i still have to find the money. At least its a good dilema to have though [​IMG]
     
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  23. Sandy

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    In the trees, or out in the open?? There wasn't 40-50cm of snow since Monday night, was there??
     
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    There was about 30-40cm in the trees today and about 25cm on the open runs which got chopped up pretty quick. It did snow all day at happo yesterday and was still goin well after i left. There would have been plenty up above mid-mountain. Definately knee deep in spots at 47. Not sure about thigh deep but then again, i wasnt at happo. Was really good because it fell with no wind so it was beautiful powder to ski in. Hopefully tonight delivers the same.

    Was there any wind up top by the end of the day JD?
     
  25. TACKIE

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    Yep. Prob about 20-30 cm at Goryu overnight and early morning. Got very warm today though, 8c at the house today. Has just started snowing again now.
     
  26. Mark102

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    Hey guys

    Paedde and I are thinking about coming to Japan a couple of days earlier than expected now. Can anyone have a guess what the snow is going to be like from next Wednesday onwards? We were going to start skiing next saturday but we could start next Thursday if there is going to be some pow. Getting sick of groomers in the Alps....

    I struggle to read the charts below but it looks like next weekend could be warm. After that I wouldn't have a clue whether things would get better or worse. I guess it's a long way out and things can change fast.

    http://www.weather.unisys.com/gfsx/9panel/gfsx_500p_9panel_easia.html

    Hope you guys keep getting some decent pow.

    [​IMG]
     
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  27. TJ

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    Hey Mark
    I have been riding bottomless the last two mornings and there is still plenty around. The wind yesterday afternoon should have filled everything back up and it is snowing lightly this morning. Snow is really dry as the temps have stayed cold. You will notice a massive difference when you rock into town this year. Looks like snow is due on Sunday and pretty much right through next week. I can definately recommend coming in earlier if nothing is on the horizon for Europe.
     
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    Mark who knows a week in advance. Right now the snow is resetting everyday boot to knee deep.
     
  29. John Deere

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    It's nice /boorat voice!
     
  30. Sandy

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    So JD, do you ski anywhere else apart from Happo?
     
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    Well, I have skied 5 resorts on this trip so far and will be six tomorrow plus BC, however we are camped at the base of the Happo gondola and know the resort pretty well for the powder days (plus being at it makes it pretty much the only resort we can get first lifts with no car), plus the off piste policy is nice.
     
  32. Mark102

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    [​IMG] My flight has been changed now. Just need to confirm it once Paedde has changed his flight. So we should be arriving Wed arvo/night. [​IMG]

    I don't know if we'll score any decent fresh by coming early but there is nothing really on in Europe worth staying for after this weekend. One 10cm pow day would be about it if we stayed the extra 2 days. I guess we'll be able to find some untracked in Hakuba if it doesn't snow but the snowpack does sound pretty dodgy. Buried surface hoar, lovely! <img src="https://www.ski.com.au/xf/styles/graemlins/smirk.gif" alt="\:\/" title="smirk" height="15" width="15" />

    FT, I messaged Charlee the other day but I'll send you a proper email later today.

    I can't wait to see Hakuba in a decent season. [​IMG] See you all soon.
     
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    if u guys are there on the 20th of FEb come past Tracks bar. I'm playing a gig there and some aussie crew there would be sweet!
     
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    I'll be there on Friday. [​IMG]
     
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  35. TJ

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    20cm overnight and still snowing. Visability looks good from my office. Today will be awesome. I am guessing knee deep up high.
     
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    Werent wrong there TJ, knee deep in places in the morning and knee deep almost anywhere in the arvo with some thigh deep pockets. Still snowing lightly so hopefully there is enough to cover todays tracks and tomorrow will be epic. Gotta love surprise dumps!
     
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    Went out from Tsugaike today, its plain dangerous! Three people buried inbounds at Tsugaike today. If you going in the trees, also be careful, big slough everywhere today. Enough to bury people.
     
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    3 buried at tsugaike? Avy risk must be crazy over there at the moment, hope it stabilises sometime soon! Looks like a little more on the way next week too - just the right timing for us.

    Any of those 3 hurt at tsugaike?
     
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    The new reports (tsugaike) that one girl has now died while another is still in a Coma.

    The pack at teh moment is wiating for a trigger really. Wheather, People, falling snow from trees etc. I wouldnt venture into areas that you dont know about.

    That said some of the trees yesterday were outstanding! Sluff everywhere meant that you needed to ski off fall line or you would be sking sluff. where I was it wasnt enough to take you down but it sure made for tube like sking. Called it quits though once the snow started to break over the thighs and the sluff was starting to really run fast.

    This season is insanely dangerous so please be carefull in any open or treed areas in the hakuba region.
     
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    what will help the pack to stabillise fattwins?

    is it bad enough to consider carrying a transceiver inbounds?
     
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  42. John Deere

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    We carried gear in bounds but not for piste. It is silly not too if you are hitting the trees. Best to use your head at the moment though, the gear might not save you.
     
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    Sounds pretty sketchy. Looking forward to having a chat about it when I get there in a couple of days FT.

    Definitely should have gear if skiing pow in the trees. Especially if the snowpack is as dodgy as it sounds. Doing everything to avoid avies is better though as it might tickle if you hit a tree at 50kmph when heading downhill with the avi.

    The current charts look like there could be some serious dumpage coming in just over a week.
     
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    in bounds no poaching trees yes!
     
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    I'd say at the moment mark that it'd be no skiing trees until the powder has packed down from the sounds of things.
     
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    I reckon some trees would be OK.
     
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    The top of Happo was stable yesterday and I ran 2 biglines down Happo!
     
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    Just spent the last 2 hours in Hummingbird eating FANTASTIC food watching the snow absolutely puke down outside. Footprints are being covered up in about 10 minutes at the moment...sorry...not!
     
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    Should be great tracks in Nagano and Niigata tomorrow!
     
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    Today was nuts in Hakuba. Found some really deep stuff on the main runs first thing. The trees rocked too.
    We skied Iwatake today due to a little wind so Happo couldn't get the Gondola open until later. Should be good up there tomorrow.
    No time for pics sorry. As they say no friends or pics on powder days.
    Thumbs up for the Blue Dragon too. They make the call every day and they make it right.