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Sandy

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I can't remember the last time I saw quite as much "lake effect" development as that, right out into the Pacific:
It means that the air is very cold.

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Snow75

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I arrive on the 26th at Hakuba. Riding 14 days, anyone know long term forecast ? I know it's not that far out
 

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Was dumping all afternoon in Kokusai whilst there today. Dumping when left too.
Trees where deep.

Niseko in need of some love tho
 

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Was dumping all afternoon in Kokusai whilst there today. Dumping when left too.
Trees where deep.

Niseko in need of some love tho
Definitely.
Nothing overnight from what I can see. Bluebird this morning.

Really pleased to see Honshu getting the goods though.
 
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pedub

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Any weather gurus able to shed any light on why so different? Niseko and Kokusai are not that far apart?
Snowforecast next week is also very different, Kiroro/Kokusai showing near constant snowfall and Niseko/Rusutsu not much.
 

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So strange how Hokkaido is quite literally missing every bit of this front. Lows develop, yet abait south. Never thought I'd say it but.. is central/costal, Japan more reliable!? Potentially restructure my trip next year!
 

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Nozawa Onsen has had 21cm in the last 3 hours(8pm-11pm), including 11cm in one hour!!!!!

Trouble with internet access...so this response is delayed...
.......but this observation would explain why we got stuck in our bus transfer from Narita to Nozawa on Friday night. As the time got later and later, I knew we were in trouble. We finally got in at 3.45 am!!!! (had to walk the last but through the village)
Still, we were up and on the slopes by 9am, and it was INSANE!!!
(And it is still snowing Sunday am)
 

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Hokkaido on a seasonal average way more reliable and consistent. Honshu gets way bigger dumps though due to position and size of lake effect fetch it gets
 

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Hokkaido on a seasonal average way more reliable and consistent. Honshu gets way bigger dumps though due to position and size of lake effect fetch it gets
 

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Been lightly snowing on and off this morning down here in Kansai.
 

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Sun has vanished again in Hirafu.
Solid cloud cover.

Edit: lightly snowing
 
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Has been snowing since arrival in Hakuba since yesterday afternoon.
Apparently its windy at Happo and the top half of the mountain is closed though not a breath of wind i can see...
Great light snow all over.
 

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So strange how Hokkaido is quite literally missing every bit of this front. Lows develop, yet abait south. Never thought I'd say it but.. is central/costal, Japan more reliable!? Potentially restructure my trip next year!
Surely trolling?
 

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Hopefully the models hold that after a lean week for parts of Hokkaido next week we see a return of low pressure off the north of the island. Some models already showing potential
 
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I'm back into the business now.
GFS 18z snow dates beyond current system.
20-23 Jan (Not good for Hokkaido)
25-26 Jan
28-30 Jan at least (still looking really tasty)

Long term things look great. But patience folks.
 
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Tanuki

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Snow this deep is exhausting. Clearly I am doing it wrong.
We are in Nozawa now, and I am almost scared to go out.
Yep, my wife and I ad an experience like that in Nozawa a few years back. Seriously dangerous on piste in places and deadly off piste and in gullys.
 

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Hey @Sandy with a system like working for Honshu and small parts of Hokkaido would Tomamu etc be getting something from the south? or am I misunderstanding winds directions currently hitting southern Hokkaido? I only ask as
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last year we were at Tomamu and got a huge three day storm from southerly winds
 

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Yep, my wife and I ad an experience like that in Nozawa a few years back. Seriously dangerous on piste in places and deadly off piste and in gullys.
Probably 2012? You didn't want to fall over that year. It was a b**** to get back up.
 
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From JAN http://www.nadare.jp/avalanche-info/alert/detail/170115hakuba/
Advice for Hakuba area
It is a dangerous avalanche conditions. Forest took a bigger margin of safety, noting the higher risk of avalanches occur and swamp-like terrain exist within the forest, where action. Please find a small place of the effect of the wind, such as forest, avoid slopes of wind slabs forming. Small avalanches and terrain traps combined with higher risk. So you don't miss that place. Dangerous condition. Even in the below treeline area, pay attention to avalanche terrain such as start zones and gullies even on terrain within the trees. Add an additional safety margin when you travel in the backcountry today. Avoid slopes with wind slab and look out for safe areas such as in dense forest where there is limited wind effect. The avalanche risk will increase with terrain traps even when avalanche size is small.
 

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Probably 2012? You didn't want to fall over that year. It was a b**** to get back up.
I expect that was the year I scared myself out of ever riding in rear entry bindings ever again.
 

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An interesting way of explaining the lake effect is an onsen.

You got 50 degree+ water with -5/-10 temps and you get a huge cloud of steam. It happens in the Sea of Japan, just like that (but only 8-10 degrees, so you need really cold winds) and on a much larger scale.
 
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Sandy

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Please restrict comments on lift status or course/run status to the resort threads.

This is the Weather Forum. Conditions reports on snow is ok... e.g. "Face shots" at Nozawa tells us that there is at least 50cm there.
 
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