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Discussion in 'Alpine & Southern' started by Donza, Sep 29, 2009.
I cannot ski today ski today as the "outlaws" (parents-in-law) are here
SnowJapan forecast for Niseko Hirafu
"A bit more snow is forecast for tomorrow but then it should fine up on Wednesday and Thursday before another system will hit on Friday with plenty of snow forecast to accompany it. Winter is certainly not over yet up in the North. "
Yeah looks pretty damn tidy.
You just staying in Hirafu?
Hope it pans out for you Luvthabumps and you get some fresh stuff, I have my fingers crossed for you, how long are you there for?
Staying in at the Vale in Hirafu, will probably venture around the other local resorts and may try to sneak a trip to Rusutsu if I can swing it. We've only got 6 days on the snow, Mrs LTB has her back taped up and, as well as jnr LTB, I'll have the 6 and 10 y.o and the FIL in tow so it'll be a bit of a juggle to get away
I've got a mate who's been going there the past 5 winters so he's hooked me up with a few tips of where to go and another mate who's trying to hook me up with a buddy of his over there atm, so we'll see how it goes.
It's a free trip for me, so I'm just happy to be getting some turns, deep pow would be an absolute bonus.
Forecast for Hakuba: light to moderate rain the valley bottom for the next few days with snow higher up, not sure where the freezing line will be, perhaps near 1100m?
Should make some good turns for your alpine touring!
Yes, I'll be happy this week with some low-vis meadow skipping aound 2200m.
Perfect Spring day up here. 10cm of nice powder overnight and blubird conditions this morning. Happy days!
Stop Go Native!! This sort of nonsense is torture for those of us no longer there but still liking to pain ourselves by checking the conditions.
I think the next six days are going to epic in Hokkaido, mid-winter like conditions but with longer Spring daylight hours to be out amongst it!! Monday looks like pure filth!!
But it has to come sooner or later, the dreaded Kosa, looks like Wednesday could be the day with a strong WSW fetch rollickign in off China!! Interestingly, when we were at Sahoro in late Feb at the start of that mongrel warm / light rain period, there was what appeared to be a brown dust layer exposed by the melting in places, was like hitting the brakes everytime it touched your base, 'orrible stuff
Kousa: we (Hakuba) have had it about three times already this year. Came earlier than recent seasons. First was back in mid Feb when the NW stream suddenly stopped. Got more last week. It ruins the snow.
Great time to be in Hokkaido right now for resort skiers.
Hakuba: Snowing today pretty hard above 1600m, not much wind at all. Rain/sleet/snow at the valley floor, depending where you are. Watching with interest where the snow/rain line will be tonight as the precip picks up a lot.
It won't get consistently down below 700m until part way through tomorrow IMO.
I would disagree with that statement Damian, Hokkaido is a hell of lot more than consistently good snow conditions & 'resort' skiing, theres a lifetime of backcountry tucked away on that little island & it's not all rolling hills & poking through trees.
'Great time to be in Hokkaido for snow in general' might be a more disarming statement!!
Flight leaves at 1 am tom morning.
I know. It is also a great time to be there for backcountry - nearly always is. But it isn't the only great place to be for bc right now. At the risk of wild generalization: Resorts here currently score 2/10 for conditions, whilst in Hokkaido they probably score, dunno, 7/10?? (right now). Hence my statement. The gap in the backcountry is a lot narrower. Iâ€™d love to hit the Shokanbetsu area this week myself. But in the same breath I can think of uncountable peaks and zones within 50km of here that are [subjective] better, just as good or bloody good enough. If I were deciding where to go for resort skiing for the next week, Iâ€™d go direct to Hâ€˜do, no questions asked, no contest.
No one has to convince me of the excellence of Hokkaido BC. Starting last season Iâ€™ll likely make a 2-3 week campervan trip there every other March for the rest of my days.
And donâ€™t dismiss rolling terrain so fast! Hakuba would be much better of it had more of it (that was easy access).
/chronic off topic diversion.
It's pretty good up here at the moment no doubt about that but on a clear day like today it doesn't take long for the sun facing slopes to get totally baked. It is getting into the last week of March after all. Still plenty of snow forecast over the next 3 or 4 days so I'm really looking forward to the weekend, especially Monday. If the weather is nice enough I'm thinking of climbing Youtei on Monday.
Complaining?! We get solar bake every day after a storm. And it comes at a real cost since so much of our good terrain is solar aspect. Flip side: good weather = [relatively] frequent big terrain access.
Dumping in Niseko at the moment. Strong winds - lifts on wind hold.
Could be very good when this wind dies down. Monday will be the day I think by the looks of the forecast.
I was up the mountain this morning in Niseko and it was good. Had up to knee deep turns in Fujiwara no Sawa and boot deep in Strawberry's. There was hardly anyone skiing off-piste and every run was fresh tracks. This afternoon it turned into blizzard conditions. Should be good tomorrow if the winds die down although there's likely to be significant avi danger so doubt the top gates will open. Hopefully by Monday it will have settled.
Little clip of the blizzard from out front of my house in Kutchan this afternoon.
what a day..... the snow japan report here. Pretty accurate IMHO. I am stuffed......
Sunday 28th March 2010, 9:54AM
Weather conditions: Partly cloudy
New snowfall: 40cm+
Snow depth: Current Official Snow Depths: Grand Hirafu: Top - 360 Bottom - 190 Niseko Village: Top - 345 Bottom - 150 Annupuri: Top - 350 Bottom - 200
Well it might be near the end of March but Spring couldn't have seemed further away yesterday. What started off as fairly light snow first thing yesterday just got heavier and heavier until the afternoon when a strong storm band hit the region causing blizzard conditions. The strong winds and heavy snow abated later in the evening but lighter snowfalls have continued through into this morning. All up we had in excess of 40cm of snowfall. The very strong winds late yesterday though caused a lot of drifting and snowdrifts of more than 1.2m developed in lee slopes in the last 24 hours. Avalanche danger is high as a result all peak gates will remain shut today.
Currently the snow and wind has eased and there's even a little sunshine coming through. Conditions in the trees should be awesome today with what I suspect will be bottomless, deep powder turns. Deep powder turns in sunshine....it really doesn't get any better than that does it?
We can expect a bit more snow to return later today. If winds remain light I'd think the peak should be able to open tomorrow. If it does it's going to be epic.
Next week looks like it's going to warm considerably but lets not worry about that now. Let's just enjoy what may well be the last deep powder turns of the season.
Ha ha, great stuff luvtha, checked that report before and I knew you'd be happy right about now! Days like you scored today is what it's all about.
And the 'bit more snow later today' has turned out to be a lot more than a bit. Dumping outside currently. Tomorrow is going to be sweet.
yep, still pumping down, should be a great day tomorrow.
Does it ever end on Hokkaido......Looks like it was a pretty solid March.
Could you ask for anything more than Niseko this morning? It looks awesome.
Back end of march for sure..once that high pressure over Siberia got re established.
March is not really spring in Hokkaido. Late April is really spring
Sapporo's mean average daily temperature:
A good indicator of Spring in Japan is when the cherry blossoms open.
Tokyo: March 22nd
Kyoto: March 19th
Matsumoto: April 3rd
Sapporo: May 2nd
At the risk of turning a Wx discussion into a resort-hype thread, which it seems to be aside from Sandy's DATA....
Yes. Hakuba for the last three days, today, tomorrow and the next day. Tomorrow in particular will be exceptional for weather and snow. This of course said from the perspective of us backcountry skiers moving across a huge variety of terrain at the moment.
Well this morning was pretty awesome in Niseko. More good falls of powder late yesterday followed by bluebird conditions this morning and the peak was open! About half the people on the mountain took advantage of the conditions to climb the peak and they weren't disappointed with around knee deep powder in all the bowls. Did a couple of laps myself before hitting up some of the lower runs in the trees. Happy days!
Same down south in Hakuba. Cold and deep here with blower rushing over the shoulders, turn after turn after turn. [From 1900m in the "backcountry" close to lifts, but not accessible at all to anyone boot packing as it requires a very deep 300m climb - not that there was anyone there anyway].
The storm continues with more snow and cold temps tonight and dangerously bluebird conditions tomorrow. Should be about 70-100cm of storm snow at 2000m tomorrow morning, depending on where you are in the valley.
I know this is weather so I'd have to say the weather couldn't have been better for the past 3 days. Lots of pow and now blubird. What a great first trip to Japan. I don't know what all the fuss is about Aussies here - there's no-one here in late March....
You have so scored the goods. Not a bad place in late March hey! You mustn't be able to get the off your face.
March is the goods, i'll trade a wee bit of snow quality for sweet fa crowds
Dumping here in Echoland at the moment. It has been snowing on and off all day. First lifts today was very good, tomorrow will be excellent.
So far Kutchan has recorded 30cm more snowfall in March than it got in Feb. Up around 215cm this month. It's been a good March.
30-60 cents around the reports say.
full on surprise.
Not totally a surprise for me. Yesterday was cold in Tokyo, fresh northerly breeze, max 8 degrees, but clear and about 2 degrees overnight. Perfect for snow in the central Japan mountains.
As I was walking to the station this morning, I was thinking that it probably dumped overnight....
Dark Sith Lord you'd have to concede that it was probably a surprise for mere mortals.
Naww epic stuff
An awesome morning of non stop powder lines and no one around. Another bluebird powder day to put on my list for this season. Let off a couple of little slides down low. Nothing that would bury me so all good fun. Conditions once again come up trumps for late March when the mountains are deserted.
A dusting of snow at village level in Niseko this morning, a bit more up higher.
Asahidake though is looking very nice this morning
Not that I think anyone cares anymore, but 1cm on the ground at 800m here. Only of note because it is April 8th.
Magnificent spring morning up north. Fairly cool overnight getting down to -6 in Kutchan.
Webcam view of Youtei from Kutchan.
bloody magnificent *sob*
Cool, weather reports in the form of pictures. Iâ€™ll go for that.
Hakuba yesterday, below freezing at 2000m, totally windless, totally blue. 5-10cm of powder on the smoothest corn Iâ€™ve seen. Probably the fastest most rewarding day of skiing this season. 8 April 2010. Today was perfect corn.
Our highest peak, 2932m. I saw one person ski it. One track. Perfection.
Happo backcountry â€“ mumezawa north chute entrance. Some of Fattwinsâ€™ friends skied it and were glowing.
One of my three descents. 800m vertical of not one single other human being for a few kmâ€™s. Perfection.
Seldom in condition, perfect yesterday and today. Unskied both days. An 800m couloir gone to waste.
Blizzard conditions up north this morning!
Some sensational lines to be had in there Damian. Damn nice!
This April has been odd so far. Unlike the usual in Tokyo, where you get a gradual increase in temperatures(14-20 degrees max), punctuated by the occasional colder days (say 10) or warmer days (say 22), this April has been all over the place!!!
Sunday was 24, today the forecast is 7. It's currently 5.5 degrees, raining and getting colder!!!!