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Advice needed Jindy to Thredbo Conundrum - Buy carrier pod or drive up in another car?

Discussion in 'Snow Talk' started by jaydesu, Aug 1, 2019.

  1. jaydesu

    jaydesu First Runs

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    I'm travelling up with 5 mates to Thredbo later in the month and we have booked accommodation in Jindy.

    We have 1 problem, we can't carry all our gear + everyone in 1 car.

    We have a Jeep (Grand i think) without roof racks and a Toyota 86. As I see it, our options are;
    1. Bring both cars on the first and last day up the mountain and keep the boards/skis in storage up at Thredbo.
    2. Buy roof racks and either a pod or ski/snowboard clamps and everyone can travel in the Jeep while the gear is on top.
    3. 4 people travel with all the gear on the first and last day while 1 person takes a bus (or something similar).

    Those are all the scenarios I've thought of. We just want the most cost effective and safest solution (we're not going to have all 5 of us dangerously packed with boards and skis around our heads inside the car).

    A few things I need to consider;
    • Can the 86 make it up the mountain in chains?
    • How do I organize a bus up the mountain?
    • Is it worth renting roof racks v. buying them?
    • How much storage is for the duration of our trip (3 nights of storage in Thredbo)?
    • Are there any other options?
    • Is it worth investing in roof racks (the Jeep is a relatives car, none of us actually own this car).
    If you guys have suggestions or know of the cheapest option - open to hearing.
     
  2. Sage Oya

    Sage Oya Like the herb, lover of Pabst, cup ramen devotee Ski Pass: Gold

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    Can you not just take both cars up the mountain? You have a 4 seater 86 and a Jeep Grand Cherokee. Load 4 people into the 86 and then put a driver, 1 passenger and all the gear inside the Jeep. I would imagine it would all fit in the back of the Jeep with the second row seats folded down. Snowboards are short.

    The drive from jindy is tame and 95% of the time chains arent needed as there isn’t snow or ice on the road
     
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  3. Sage Oya

    Sage Oya Like the herb, lover of Pabst, cup ramen devotee Ski Pass: Gold

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    Ps I don’t think you’ll get 6 snowboards on the roof of a car without multiple racks which would be more expensive than paying the national park entry fee for 2 cars over 3 days
     
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  4. Snow Blowey

    Snow Blowey Old n' Crusty Ski Pass: Gold

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    And racks and a pod will cost heaps and stuff your driving pleasure and fuel economy.
     
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  5. telecrag

    telecrag Old n' Crusty Ski Pass: Gold

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    there are ski and board lockers, no idea on cost or availability. @Townsend
     
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  6. jaydesu

    jaydesu First Runs

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    To confirm numbers we're looking at 3 boards and 2 pairs of skis.
    The 86 will not be able to hold 4 adults - 3 max and it's a tight squeeze.

    I haven't driven the roads up to Thredbo from Jindy in the 86 so not too sure if any of the same type of car has made it up in snowy conditions. I haven't driven in snow before. We've also seen pretty bad conditions up at Thredbo on 1 or 2 trips up and not sure if the 86 can make it if it buckets.

    Edit: Really appreciate all the comments btw.
     
  7. telecrag

    telecrag Old n' Crusty Ski Pass: Gold

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    Can you fit chains to the 86?

    There are threads on driving in the snow (should you have to, not very often on Thredbo road). Basically go slow, dont brake or accelerate, its not that hard.
     
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  8. DidSurfNowSki

    DidSurfNowSki One of them Ski Pass: Gold

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    This. How many days this year have you had to put chains on to get up to Thredbo? 5?
     
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  9. Sage Oya

    Sage Oya Like the herb, lover of Pabst, cup ramen devotee Ski Pass: Gold

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    If the Jeep’s second row of seats do a 60/40 split I’m confident you’d be able to put a driver, one passenger in the front and one sitting in the second row on the 40 split seat with the boards and gear occupying the 60 split area plus the area behind the 40 split seat which would be upright. Put 3 in the 86 and job done.

    If you can fit snow chains to the 86 in the unlikely event that you’ll need them then you’ll be fine. Be aware though that if you have nice bbs or watanabe rims etc with low profile tyres that rental snow chains might scratch them up etc
     
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  10. telecrag

    telecrag Old n' Crusty Ski Pass: Gold

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    One, and they were not actually even close to being needed, bastards!
     
  11. jaydesu

    jaydesu First Runs

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    There are some Toyota 86 chains for sale online, just need to know if I can hire them in Jindy. I'll search up the snow driving threads - might provide me with some confidence.

    Couldn't tell you. We've always headed up in a 4wd. First time with 5 people.

    I have stock GTS rims. They're not outrageous but I think they're low profile.
     
  12. gareth_oau

    gareth_oau Pool Room Ski Pass: Gold

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    Except there’s a guy living in Thredbo called Murphy, and he has a law
     
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  13. Sage Oya

    Sage Oya Like the herb, lover of Pabst, cup ramen devotee Ski Pass: Gold

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    Best check the owners manual for the 86 and see what it says re snow chains.
     
  14. Sage Oya

    Sage Oya Like the herb, lover of Pabst, cup ramen devotee Ski Pass: Gold

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    Most of the chains for hire around jindy are either the hoop style ladder chains or the v2 traction diamond chains.

    www.xswinter.com suggests you can get 12mm size 80 V2 chains for a 215/45/17 tyre but not sure if there will be enough clearance for the 86 specifically to use them.
     
  15. Hermannator

    Hermannator One of Us Ski Pass: Silver

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    What??? You're entertaining taking 2 cars from Sydney (or some other far away from-snow location) just so you can avoid getting roof racks? How much fuel will the 86 use? Then the extra parking permit...

    Just buy some roof racks (2nd hand maybe?) and sell them off again?
     
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  16. jaydesu

    jaydesu First Runs

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    Will look at the manual but @Hermannator has a point...

    Yes coming from Sydney but youre right. 3.5 days is $100 odd per car which I'd rather chip in for second hand roof racks.

    The drive up from Sydney is unavoidable as we're starting in different locations (we're carpooling 3 & 2). Can make it to Jindy and back in the 86 on 1 refill each way on premium.
     
  17. crackson

    crackson A Local Ski Pass: Gold

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    Rent an enclosed box trailer?
     
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  18. kaegee

    kaegee One of Us Ski Pass: Gold

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    Ski /Board lockers are 17 ish a day 45 / 3 . Three day park entry 30 ish a day . Doubt you’ll need chains ... don’t need to carry .. but weather monitoring ... Your maths ...
     
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  19. Donzah

    Donzah Old n' Crusty Ski Pass: Gold

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    I remember when snow stores used to rent ski racks
     
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  20. Snow Blowey

    Snow Blowey Old n' Crusty Ski Pass: Gold

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    I think the more important question is around the issue of owning the toyota 86. :D
     
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  21. Donzah

    Donzah Old n' Crusty Ski Pass: Gold

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    You can hire a rack and roof box for 130 bucks in sydney.
    Thats less than the gas for the 86 to drive to jindy return
     
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  22. Donzah

    Donzah Old n' Crusty Ski Pass: Gold

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  23. DPS Driver

    DPS Driver One of Us

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    Here’s some options:
    1. Get rid of ya fifth mate.
    2. Go surfing
    3. Drag snowboards behind the Jeep
    4. Fly down.
    5. Don’t take any boards or skis, just go on a drinking holiday
    6. Hire racks and pod
    If it were me I’d choose no. 3, but I think no.6 might be best for you.
     
  24. jaydesu

    jaydesu First Runs

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    Hahaha yeah, fair. I love driving it around Sydney - Its just not 'active' friendly.

    We're looking into this now, but I have to drive at least 2 cars to Jindy as we're coming from different areas in Sydney.

    I'll take #5 with my adjustments

    Thanks everyone for the feedback - we're looking into hiring/all chipping in to buy roof racks and a pod. I'll loop back when we actually decide on what we're going to do in case this helps anyone else in future.
     
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  25. Donzah

    Donzah Old n' Crusty Ski Pass: Gold

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    I guess two cars are more comfy.
    Five adults can be squishy
     
  26. blutek

    blutek One of Us

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    End of August will be spring like, probably warm and sunny.
     
  27. Gimp

    Gimp One of Us Ski Pass: Gold

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    I'm guessing whatever money is saved pooling will be spent on overpriced booze
     
  28. person s

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    I’ve never found my roof box to have a significant impact on fuel economy
    neither of these vehicles has great economy anyway
     
  29. Legs Akimbo

    Legs Akimbo Grumblebum Ski Pass: Gold

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    I think it is time for the obvious solution. Someone has to buy a new car.
     
  30. DidSurfNowSki

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    Or start ditching some mates ;)
     
  31. iagreewithhim

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    Monster Ski Hire in Jindy has soft roof racks for hire. Don't know the cost (free if you hire skis). They'll carry 5 pairs of skis. They saved us from a second trip down & up to Thredbo yesterday - 4 adults + suitcases + skis + food for a week in a Hyundai Accent.
     
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    Toyota 86. Nice car .... Don’t know that I’d be putting chains on it and taking it to the snow :eek:

    For what it’s worth, in seasons past I could load 5 people into a Subaru Forester with 5 seats of skis, boots, poles, helmets, etc and assorted suitcases. This was achieved through the wonders of the Thule pod on the roof. If you plan on future trips anywhere with multiple mates, I’d highly recommend some kind of roof carrier. Just watch the lid if it’s windy ;).
     
  33. Charlie

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    Hire a 'people carrier'
     
  34. Lifes2good

    Lifes2good One of Us

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    Just a few facts for you:

    This mob has low profile chains - they are in Cooma behind Maccas. Highly recommend them (SkiCo) generally. It is compulsary to carry chains on 2WD vehicles in NSW Alpine parks. Low profile chains for 4 days will cost $80.
    https://skico.com.au/hire-rates/

    National Park entry will cost $27/day per vehicle x 2 cars x 4 days = $216 vs $108 for one vehicle.

    As others have mentioned, ski/board locker rental at Thredbo is around $17/day so if you could get up there the afternoon before your first snow day you could stick everything in lockers and leave it there for the duration, but that works out quite exxy and a fair bit of hassle. 4 days X 5 lockers = $340

    If you rent racks and a roof box make sure you plan and check well ahead - you need to get them together as some roof boxes need special attachements to fit to certain roof racks.

    Me personally - I would rent racks and a roof box in Sydney and drive very carefully. Five adults in a Jeep GC and roof box on top with 5 sets of snow gear is going to be heavy and in particular have a high centre of gravity.
     
  35. skull

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    Rent a pod. Leave second car in Sydney
     
  36. Nidecker

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    Snowbound chatswood rent roof boxes of course I wont comment on the reliability of a Jeep :p

     
  37. Budgiesmuggler

    Budgiesmuggler A Local Ski Pass: Gold

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    Roof racks and rope

    Or racks and a lot of cable ties - I cable tied my skis to racks for Thredbo do Sydney drove.

    I also have a roof pod and it’s an awesome investment just got to check it’s long enough for the skis and boards